Paramedic killing - Sydney

[Kwality]

'A paramedic has been stabbed to death at a fast food restaurant in Sydney’s south west on Friday morning, authorities say.

About 5.30am, emergency workers were called to Queen Street in Campbelltown following reports a male paramedic had been stabbed.

The assailant stabbed the paramedic "multiple times" in the back of his ambulance parked outside the McDonald's, The Daily Telegraph reported sources saying.

Police said the man was treated at the scene and taken to Liverpool hospital, where he later died.

A 21-year-old man was arrested at the scene.'

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/new-ir-reforms-risk-trapping-nations-feet-in-cement/live-coverage/ae56a8e03f61087f839964a6fb758bbb#97909

No excuses for this bastard, throw away the keys.
Our legislators talk tough, yet the judiciary find a way to excuse the flotsam & jettison of Society.

 

[HAPPY CHEFFY]

In the back of the ambulance.
Was he there to help the assailant?

Link is paywalled.

 

[Rob R]

In the back of the ambulance.
Was he there to help the assailant?

Link is paywalled.

Was doing paperwork and assailant opened door and stabbed him without warning. High drug area with a lack of police presence so probably some drugie scum who has been treated as a victim and let off time and time again by our progressive justice system. Will be let off again due to "mental health" issues for sure.

Given how out of control and unpredictable these scum are, police need to play it safe for themselves and shoot to kill if there is even a hint of a threat during arrests.

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[GreyCrow]

Was doing paperwork and assailant opened door and stabbed him without warning.

Thats terrible and should be locked away for a very long time

High drug area with a lack of police presence so probably some drugie scum who has been treated as a victim and let off time and time again by our progressive justice system. Will be let off again due to "mental health" issues for sure.

Given how out of control and unpredictable these scum are, police need to play it safe for themselves and shoot to kill if there is even a hint of a threat during arrests.

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Fanciful fraidy projection

 

[HAPPY CHEFFY]

Was doing paperwork and assailant opened door and stabbed him without warning. High drug area with a lack of police presence so probably some drugie scum who has been treated as a victim and let off time and time again by our progressive justice system. Will be let off again due to "mental health" issues for sure.

Same old song. “But but but they can be helped”

Given how out of control and unpredictable these scum are, police need to play it safe for themselves and shoot to kill if there is even a hint of a threat during arrests.

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Wild theory that would definitely work.

 

[CD Xbow]

This murder of Steven Tougher, an Ambo who was sitting in his truck finishing his shift seems utterly senseless. Such a terrible tragedy. First responders can face terrible risks, but fortunately here in Oz this sort of violence is relatively rare.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/former-paramedics-tragic-letter-after-stabbing-death-at-campbelltown-mcdonalds/news-story/4ff301e388c7cf593a8a1299eb3e2ce5

RIP Steven.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

This murder of Steven Tougher, an Ambo who was sitting in his truck finishing his shift seems utterly senseless. Such a terrible tragedy. First responders can face terrible risks, but fortunately here in Oz this sort of violence is relatively rare.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/news/former-paramedics-tragic-letter-after-stabbing-death-at-campbelltown-mcdonalds/news-story/4ff301e388c7cf593a8a1299eb3e2ce5

RIP Steven.

Probably some meth head who won’t even remember doing it

 

[BFew]

https://www.news.com.au/national/ns...s/news-story/4ff301e388c7cf593a8a1299eb3e2ce5

'A Go Fund Me page has been set up to raise money to support Mr Tougher’s family. More than $110,000 of a $300,000 goal had been donated as of Saturday morning.'

190k raised as of now.

The alleged 21yo murderer is going to need some serious protection if he ever makes it to a full on jail (and not just a secure Psych Unit).

 

[BFew]

The alleged murderer of NSW paramedic Steven Tougher has been named.
As expected, Jordan Fineanganofo is hospitalised (under guard) for mental health issues.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/man-charged-with-murder-of-paramedic-stephen-tougher/news-story/9064202bfcfcf2a8d7a638555aad874e

'Jordan Fineanganofo, 21, was arrested at the scene and taken to the Campbelltown Police Station, where he was later charged.
Mr Fineanganofo appeared at Parramatta Local Court on Saturday morning.
He did not make an application for bail and the matter was adjourned until June.'

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-nsw/jordan-fineanganofo-charged-with-murdering-steven-tougher-in-hospital-with-mental-health-issues-court-told/news-story/1a533bfdbfb0a2f87a7760804d9be024

Jordan Fineanganofo, charged with murdering Steven Tougher, in hospital with mental health issues: court told​

'....
currently in hospital and suffers from serious mental health issues.
Jordan Fineanganofo was last night charged with murder, after he allegedly stabbed paramedic Steven Tougher to death in the back of an ambulance early on Friday morning.

Fineanganofo was tased at the scene and arrested, before he was taken to hospital for mental health treatment.
He did not appear before Parramatta bail court on Saturday, with his lawyer Javid Faiz telling the court his client was not applying for release.

Outside court Mr Faiz said Fineanganofo, despite his condition, was aware of the serious crime he was accused of.
“I’ve explained the offences and he is fully aware of the gravity,” Mr Faiz said.
“Police are currently at his bedside due to his mental health issues.”
Fineanganofo lives with his parents in southwest Sydney. No one was at the court to support him on Saturday.
...'

 

[BFew]

The alleged murderer of NSW paramedic Steven Tougher has been named.
As expected, Jordan Fineanganofo is hospitalised (under guard) for mental health issues.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/man-charged-with-murder-of-paramedic-stephen-tougher/news-story/9064202bfcfcf2a8d7a638555aad874e

'Jordan Fineanganofo, 21, was arrested at the scene and taken to the Campbelltown Police Station, where he was later charged.
Mr Fineanganofo appeared at Parramatta Local Court on Saturday morning.
He did not make an application for bail and the matter was adjourned until June.'

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/truecrimeaustralia/police-courts-nsw/jordan-fineanganofo-charged-with-murdering-steven-tougher-in-hospital-with-mental-health-issues-court-told/news-story/1a533bfdbfb0a2f87a7760804d9be024

Jordan Fineanganofo, charged with murdering Steven Tougher, in hospital with mental health issues: court told​

'....
currently in hospital and suffers from serious mental health issues.
Jordan Fineanganofo was last night charged with murder, after he allegedly stabbed paramedic Steven Tougher to death in the back of an ambulance early on Friday morning.

Fineanganofo was tased at the scene and arrested, before he was taken to hospital for mental health treatment.
He did not appear before Parramatta bail court on Saturday, with his lawyer Javid Faiz telling the court his client was not applying for release.

Outside court Mr Faiz said Fineanganofo, despite his condition, was aware of the serious crime he was accused of.
“I’ve explained the offences and he is fully aware of the gravity,” Mr Faiz said.
“Police are currently at his bedside due to his mental health issues.”
Fineanganofo lives with his parents in southwest Sydney. No one was at the court to support him on Saturday.
...'

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I speculate that the murder of Stephen Tougher, might have had something do to with the circumstances of the death of what appears to be Jordan's older (28yo) sister Mary Jane Fineanganofo around May 2021.

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[Gigantic]

Man accused of killing paramedic is in hospital with mental health issues: lawyer

Jordan Fineanganofo, 21, is undergoing a psychiatric assessment after allegedly killing paramedic Steven Tougher in a McDonald’s carpark in Sydney on Friday.

www.smh.com.au

The offender now being treated for psychosis.

The victim a newly wed having only married his wife 5 weeks ago.

 

[BFew]

Jordan Fineanganofo being in Long Bay Hospital (psychosis diagnosis either before, during, and/or after the alleged murder of Steven Tougher in his Paramedic's van outside Campbelltown Maccas yesterday morning), means he is actually within the Long Bay Correctional Complex (Malabar) at the moment.

Man accused of killing paramedic is in hospital with mental health issues: lawyer

Jordan Fineanganofo, 21, is undergoing a psychiatric assessment after allegedly killing paramedic Steven Tougher in a McDonald’s carpark in Sydney on Friday.

www.smh.com.au

'Speaking after court, Faiz, from Sydney Criminal Law Specialists, said his client had been in psychosis.
“He understands obviously the gravity of the offence, I read the allegations out to him,” he said.
“He has a psychosis issue, he is currently at Long Bay hospital.”'

Long Bay Correctional Centre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

'The Complex accepts sentenced and unsentenced felons under New South Wales and/or Commonwealth legislation and comprises three separate facilities including the Long Bay Hospital (a maximum security institution for medical and psychiatric cases); the Metropolitan Special Programs Centre (a maximum/minimum security institution); and the Special Purpose Centre (a maximum security institution for inmates requiring special protection).'

 

[BFew]

'A Go Fund Me page has been set up to raise money to support Mr Tougher’s family. More than $110,000 of a $300,000 goal had been donated as of Saturday morning.'

190k raised as of now.

$321,393 raised of $1,000,000 revised goal

 

[HAPPY CHEFFY]

These pics are bizarre. I have no idea what the first one is but the pic on the right, is that graduating Uni or something?

 

[Kurve]

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These pics are bizarre. I have no idea what the first one is but the pic on the right, is that graduating Uni or something?

The first I think is traditional Tongan dress, not sure about the second image. Agree, some sort of graduation likely?

 

[BFew]

not sure about the second image. Agree, some sort of graduation likely?

Possibly a religious robe.

Or a High School or religious course graduation robe ?

Mormon / Church of Latter Day Saints?

Why Jesus and Mary Always Wear Red and Blue in Art History | Artsy

We unpack the complex meanings behind depictions of Jesus and Mary, whose characteristic red and blue clothes underscore shifting gender roles.

www.artsy.net

'Depictions of Jesus later in life, as an adult, almost always show him dressed in bright red, or vermilion, a color with many complex meanings.'

 

[Bunk Moreland]

If the offender does suffer from psychosis and/or drug addiction then the tough response that many pine for will achieve nothing. It certainly will do nothing to stop other people having psychotic or drug-endured violent episodes.

We can’t lock up people with psychosis or drug addiction, we don’t have the space, resources or money to do it and it’s a highly questionable approach anyway.

The only answer is continued research to chip away at the problem.

What a tragedy. The epitome of “wrong place, wrong time”.

 

[jason_recliner]

If the offender does suffer from psychosis and/or drug addiction then the tough response that many pine for will achieve nothing. It certainly will do nothing to stop other people having psychotic or drug-endured violent episodes.

We can’t lock up people with psychosis or drug addiction, we don’t have the space, resources or money to do it and it’s a highly questionable approach anyway.

The only answer is continued research to chip away at the problem.

What a tragedy. The epitome of “wrong place, wrong time”.

I agree if it's a natural mental illness. If drug-induced, we need to set stronger deterrents for making, selling and using drugs. Middle East and SE ASian countries don't have this probem like we do.

 

[Rob R]

I agree if it's a natural mental illness. If drug-induced, we need to set stronger deterrents for making, selling and using drugs. Middle East and SE ASian countries don't have this probem like we do.

Drug use needs to be treating as an aggravating factor at sentencing rather than as an excuse. They may be addicts now but they weren't when they made the choice to start taking and in this case, his own lawyer advises that he refused treatment further amplifying his guilt. Assuming found guilty, life without the chance of parole is the only punishment acceptable at least until we have a referendum to reintroduce a more appropriate punishment.

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[BFew]

his own lawyer advises that he refused treatment further amplifying his guilt.

More reported quotes on this.

Even though he might have refused some treatment or medication at some stage,
Nowhere does it say that he was refusing treatment. It says he was not receiving treatment.

Which could even mean that he was meant to be getting treatment, but that the treatment was not available, or had been deferred because of staff shortages, or increased demand for treatment.

Off treatment and off medication at the time, could mean any number of things, including that he was not recommended or prescribed any medication in the period just before the alleged murder, and possibly had a sudden and catastrophic relapse of psychosis, or a full on first episode psychosis, that led to the alleged murder.

Don't worry, you're not alone in going feral over this incident.
Lots more like you all over the internet making feral assumptions, and lynch mobbing before enough of the facts are known.

Man charged in paramedic murder is in hospital | Canberra CityNews

A 21-year-old man has been charged with murder after a paramedic was stabbed outside a McDonald's in south-western Sydney.

citynews.com.au

'Faiz separately said he understood his client had been undergoing extensive mental health treatment but was not receiving treatment at the time of the incident.

“I believe he was off treatment and medication at the time,” Faiz said. “He’s got psychosis issues”.

Man charged with murder over fatal stabbing of 29-year-old paramedic

Steven Tougher, 29, was stabbed outside Campbelltown McDonald’s while he and a workmate took a break on Friday

www.theguardian.com

his client had been undergoing extensive mental health treatment but was not receiving treatment at the time of the incident.

'“I believe he was off treatment and medication at the time,” Faiz said. “He’s got psychosis issues”.'

Accused killer in hospital as 'kind' paramedic mourned

The family of Steven Tougher say the paramedic and father will be remembered for compassion as his alleged killer remains in hospital after being charged.

www.perthnow.com.au

'Mr Faiz separately told AAP he understood his client had been undergoing extensive mental health treatment but was not receiving treatment at the time of the incident.

"I believe he was off treatment and medication at the time," Mr Faiz said.'

 

[BFew]

More reported quotes on this.

Nowhere does it say that he was refusing treatment. It says he was not receiving treatment.

And some new ones I just found that were published this morning in the Daily Telegraph, and are now been used by other media.

Note the 2021 date, as this is the same year that his older sister died.

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/new-details-emerge-about-the-stabbing-that-cost-paramedic-steven-tougher-his-life/news-story/8ecb9c35e765cddfa42f47153e1949bf

'Fineanganofo was diagnosed with psychosis in 2021, according to court documents, but has never been medicated for his condition.'

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-allege-paramedic-steven-tougher-had-been-stalked-before-he-was-stabbed-to-death/news-story/3bf83509d3d48250536579eb819ac1bf

'Police allege paramedic Steven Tougher had been stalked before he was stabbed to death'​

'Fineanganofo was diagnosed with psychosis in 2021, according to court documents, but has never been medicated for his condition.'

'The matter was adjourned to June 28.'

 

[Rob R]

More reported quotes on this.

Even though he might have refused some treatment or medication at some stage,
Nowhere does it say that he was refusing treatment. It says he was not receiving treatment.

Which could even mean that he was meant to be getting treatment, but that the treatment was not available, or had been deferred because of staff shortages, or increased demand for treatment.

Off treatment and off medication at the time, could mean any number of things, including that he was not recommended or prescribed any medication in the period just before the alleged murder, and possibly had a sudden and catastrophic relapse of psychosis, or a full on first episode psychosis, that led to the alleged murder.

Don't worry, you're not alone in going feral over this incident.
Lots more like you all over the internet making feral assumptions, and lynch mobbing before enough of the facts are known.

Man charged in paramedic murder is in hospital | Canberra CityNews

A 21-year-old man has been charged with murder after a paramedic was stabbed outside a McDonald's in south-western Sydney.

citynews.com.au

'Faiz separately said he understood his client had been undergoing extensive mental health treatment but was not receiving treatment at the time of the incident.

“I believe he was off treatment and medication at the time,” Faiz said. “He’s got psychosis issues”.

Man charged with murder over fatal stabbing of 29-year-old paramedic

Steven Tougher, 29, was stabbed outside Campbelltown McDonald’s while he and a workmate took a break on Friday

www.theguardian.com

his client had been undergoing extensive mental health treatment but was not receiving treatment at the time of the incident.

'“I believe he was off treatment and medication at the time,” Faiz said. “He’s got psychosis issues”.'

Accused killer in hospital as 'kind' paramedic mourned

The family of Steven Tougher say the paramedic and father will be remembered for compassion as his alleged killer remains in hospital after being charged.

www.perthnow.com.au

'Mr Faiz separately told AAP he understood his client had been undergoing extensive mental health treatment but was not receiving treatment at the time of the incident.

"I believe he was off treatment and medication at the time," Mr Faiz said.'

You have raised a good point, if treatment was not available then that is a partial mitigation - enough to warrant parole being an option in 20 years or so.

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[BFew]

You have raised a good point, if treatment was not available then that is a partial mitigation - enough to warrant parole being an option in 20 years or so.

It also wouldn't surprise me if the power of prayer was deemed by some mis-guided souls, as the preferred treatment.

Although prescription medicine appears to be on the allowed menu of Mormons/Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
(Assuming that Jordan followed the family faith).

Sober Mormon Lifestyle Guide

For people in the Mormon Church, the high standards of physical and spiritual purity provide a foundation where they can live a healthy and inspired lifestyle. Living sober after a substance abuse problem can be the biggest test of resolve and determination that anyone can go through.

americanaddictioncenters.org

'For members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the emphasis on a sober lifestyle begins quite early. A deep tenet of the LDS faith is the strict and inflexible avoidance of alcohol, drugs (except in the form of prescription medication), cigarettes, and caffeine.'

 

[Kwality]

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These pics are bizarre. I have no idea what the first one is but the pic on the right, is that graduating Uni or something?

Whomever posted them originally selected them for a reason ....

 

[Kwality]

If the offender does suffer from psychosis and/or drug addiction then the tough response that many pine for will achieve nothing. It certainly will do nothing to stop other people having psychotic or drug-endured violent episodes.

We can’t lock up people with psychosis or drug addiction, we don’t have the space, resources or money to do it and it’s a highly questionable approach anyway.

The only answer is continued research to chip away at the problem.

What a tragedy. The epitome of “wrong place, wrong time”.

& what about those in harms way ?

IF ambo's (& others) were to protect themselves any time they felt in danger, the righteous would give them the sort of bollocking reserved for cops.