PC Pc Gaming/building thread

[blackshadow]

After a bunch of procrastination have finally found the time to finish building my new rig.

It's been well over a decade since my last build (i5-2500k), and after some initial boot issues, isolating and testing every part and thinking that my motherboard was faulty eventually realized that I'd forgotten to connect the 12V connectors.

I bet that was a heart in the mouth moment!

Pics and specs please!

 

[LiquidCrow]

I bet that was a heart in the mouth moment!

Pics and specs please!

Definitely, was even looking up return policies until I realised my oversight.

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K
MB: ASRock Z690 Pro RS DDR4 Motherboard
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz
GPU: MSI RTX 3070 Z Trio 8GB
PSU: Seasonic FOCUS-GX 750W
SSD: Kingston NV1 M.2 NVMe SSD 2TB
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Black
Cooler: Arctic Freezer i35

The case for my last build was a Fractal Define 2 which was very much a pleasure to work with. While the newer incarnation has more features and flexibility, it took some work to get to the desired configuration and some of the screw placements for various dividers and attachments were quite tricky to place.

The additional HDD attachments in particular only had a single screw connection, but getting the other end which is designed to be slotted into case was a real PITA. Also, some of the parts were hidden and screwed behind rather unintuitive locations. The PSU divider makes it look very clean, but it also meant more rerouting which made cable management a little more frustrating than it otherwise should have been.

The GPU barely fit the case, but my original preference which was a bit smaller was out of stock. The CPU cooler was also bloody hard to align properly.

Have always liked ASRock boards as the better ones seem to have extra HDD ports. This one also had a spot for my old SSD at the back of the motherboard which I thought was interesting. The inbuilt large GPU attachment was actually too small, but the card came with its own support bracket.

 

[dwwaino]

I had two of these bad boys in SLI

 

[Ry009]

 

[gaskin]

Things That Shit Me: The fact that I have a 3080 and not enough VRAM to run The Last of Us properly. Twice the game has frozen in the prologue and I have had to force close the game. Whoever decided on giving a high end GPU 10GB of VRAM is a ****ing shit campaigner.

Edit: It looks like the overwhelming majority of people are having issues. Why companies keep putting out games in a shit state is beyond me.

 

[sataris]

Put in a pre-order for the new AMD framework laptop!

Can't wait

 

[dwwaino]

Things That s*t Me: The fact that I have a 3080 and not enough VRAM to run The Last of Us properly. Twice the game has frozen in the prologue and I have had to force close the game. Whoever decided on giving a high end GPU 10GB of VRAM is a ****** s**t campaigner.

Edit: It looks like the overwhelming majority of people are having issues. Why companies keep putting out games in a s**t state is beyond me.

Sounds like a really shit port. I was waiting until the PC release to replay it but glad watching the show made me cave in and grab it on PS5 instead.

 

[gaskin]

I have just started re-playing Mass Effect Andromeda. Can someone explain to me why when the game is in windowed mode it looks crisp like it should but when it is in full screen it looks like there is a lot of glare on the screen? Even the screen calibration option is different between the two modes.

 

[dwwaino]

I have just started re-playing Mass Effect Andromeda. Can someone explain to me why when the game is in windowed mode it looks crisp like it should but when it is in full screen it looks like there is a lot of glare on the screen? Even the screen calibration option is different between the two modes.

In windowed mode it uses Windows display settings and full screen it's entirely on the graphics card. Do you have an NVIDIA or AMD graphics card? Because sometimes these issues can be fixed by going to the NVIDIA control panel and in the change resolution section set dynamic range to "full".

 

[gaskin]

In windowed mode it uses Windows display settings and full screen it's entirely on the graphics card. Do you have an NVIDIA or AMD graphics card? Because sometimes these issues can be fixed by going to the NVIDIA control panel and in the change resolution section set dynamic range to "full".

I have a 3080 and it was already set to full.

It is strange because I have never had this issue before when playing ME:A or any other game.

 

[dwwaino]

I have a 3080 and it was already set to full.

It is strange because I have never had this issue before when playing ME:A or any other game.

That's really odd then and I'm not sure. I know it sounds silly but have you checked that the graphics settings like resolution remain the same when switching from windowed to full screen?

 

[gaskin]

That's really odd then and I'm not sure. I know it sounds silly but have you checked that the graphics settings like resolution remain the same when switching from windowed to full screen?

Yep. As far as I can tell nothing changes.

 

[hornetswce]

Anyone work in the IT industry?

TAFEWA are doing free courses at the moment so I started a Cert 4 Information Technology for something to do.

I’m enjoying it so much, it’s mainly been how small networks actually work and how to set them up. It’s amazing how much of this stuff I hear at work everyday but have no idea how it works.

There are some awesome learning tool out there as well, Cisco packet tracer in terms of building networks is very cool.


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[dwwaino]

Anyone work in the IT industry?

TAFEWA are doing free courses at the moment so I started a Cert 4 Information Technology for something to do.

I’m enjoying it so much, it’s mainly been how small networks actually work and how to set them up. It’s amazing how much of this stuff I hear at work everyday but have no idea how it works.

There are some awesome learning tool out there as well, Cisco packet tracer in terms of building networks is very cool.


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Are you doing it online? I've completed one IT cert IV (programming) and thinking about another. I don't work in IT though always wish I did. I'm too entrenched in my trade to switch now but maybe one day when my body doesn't allow me to work on the tools anymore. I sort of just do the certs for something to do. I enjoy learning and while almost anything can be learned on YouTube, Udemy etc it's nice to have a bit of paper to show for your time.

 

[hornetswce]

Are you doing it online? I've completed one IT cert IV (programming) and thinking about another. I don't work in IT though always wish I did. I'm too entrenched in my trade to switch now but maybe one day when my body doesn't allow me to work on the tools anymore. I sort of just do the certs for something to do. I enjoy learning and while almost anything can be learned on YouTube, Udemy etc it's nice to have a bit of paper to show for your time.

Yeah online and completely self paced, really basic but I’m really enjoying it so flying through the content. If I’m still enjoying at the end may look at the programming stuff.

I’m in the same boat, it’s not financially viable to effectively start again but it’s handy to be able to speak IT, especially when I’m doing project management work.


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[dwwaino]

Yeah online and completely self paced, really basic but I’m really enjoying it so flying through the content. If I’m still enjoying at the end may look at the programming stuff.

I’m in the same boat, it’s not financially viable to effectively start again but it’s handy to be able to speak IT, especially when I’m doing project management work.


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Great to hear mate. How are you finding it? I did programming because it was something I was always familiar with and it was interesting to actually learn about how to plan a software project and different design architectures as more than just being able to know how to code goes into good software. I thought about going out of my comfort zone and doing networking next but still unsure. I nearly did web dev after programming but I'm glad I didn't as that's one area that moves waaaayy too fast if you're not actively working in it. Every season seems to be a fancy new framework to learn. Next time I may do game design just to have it on paper or upgrade my programming cert IV to a diploma.

 

[hornetswce]

Which TAFE are you doing it through if you don't mind me asking? I was interested initially when I heard they were making the courses free, but I don't have the time to do in class learning and that's all I could see last time I looked.

It’s a private provider funded by TAFE, Skills Strategies Australia or something.

There should be a link on the TAFE website in the course under learning options from memory.


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[hornetswce]

Great to hear mate. How are you finding it? I did programming because it was something I was always familiar with and it was interesting to actually learn about how to plan a software project and different design architectures as more than just being able to know how to code goes into good software. I thought about going out of my comfort zone and doing networking next but still unsure. I nearly did web dev after programming but I'm glad I didn't as that's one area that moves waaaayy too fast if you're not actively working in it. Every season seems to be a fancy new framework to learn. Next time I may do game design just to have it on paper or upgrade my programming cert IV to a diploma.

My feeling is this Cert 4 is aimed at support desk and basic network building work. They even include basic communication in the assessments (email the client and tell them you need to make a change or something).

But you gotta start somewhere!

I think programming is likely the next step, but not sure where I’d use it. What I should do is advanced excel content like VBA, I could build some killer spreadsheets haha!


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[dwwaino]

My feeling is this Cert 4 is aimed at support desk and basic network building work. They even include basic communication in the assessments (email the client and tell them you need to make a change or something).

But you gotta start somewhere!

I think programming is likely the next step, but not sure where I’d use it. What I should do is advanced excel content like VBA, I could build some killer spreadsheets haha!


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I know a few people who started at help desk support and some still do it to this day. It does seem like a common way to get in but it's also mostly "did you turn it off and on again?"

I went through an accredited yet private trainer too but assume the curriculum is pretty similar across the board. Programming cert IV has surprisingly little coding. Maybe 2 or 3 big coding assignments and the rest was about how to actually design software, how to develop the user experience, different design methodologies, bug finding and writing tests and a bit to do with databases. Again, like you said, not sure where you'd use it lol. It's just not about what it says on the box. I still found it interesting though because as a life long hobby coder they were things I never thought about when writing stuff. I love trying to make stuff in Unity and Unreal Engine too so it actually taught me some good practices that I now apply.

 

[dav3]

Anyone work in the IT industry?

TAFEWA are doing free courses at the moment so I started a Cert 4 Information Technology for something to do.

I’m enjoying it so much, it’s mainly been how small networks actually work and how to set them up. It’s amazing how much of this stuff I hear at work everyday but have no idea how it works.

There are some awesome learning tool out there as well, Cisco packet tracer in terms of building networks is very cool.


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Yeah I do, TAFE is a hell of a lot more worthwhile these days, when I did it it was absolutely pointless. I learnt more after quitting due to boredom and getting into the industry, and once you're in and get some experience it's fairly easy to get roles. These days I hear you can actually get some decent qualifications through TAFE (Microsoft, Cisco, etc), in the late 90s I had to learn useless shit like Pascal.

Most people would use it as a gateway to a role they might actually enjoy, jump on a bag-and-tag Service Desk role, then move up to Desktop, and then work to get an opportunity from there. That's the route I took, and these days I'm doing things from Server Admin and Projects, to a bit of Cyber security.

The market is pretty flooded with IT staff, with a lot of people coming to Australia with pointless "qualifications" they basically just buy. Having seen quite a few resumes I'll say one thing though, if you're looking at getting into the industry and you actually write a resume/application to suit the role, and don't sound like an complete idiot, you're a good chance to get an interview.

If programming interests you then go for it, even if you don't end up going down that path the skills are still pretty useful, powershell and scripting are used all over the place so if you understand how to code it would be pretty easy to pick up.

 

[StFly]

Yeah I do, TAFE is a hell of a lot more worthwhile these days, when I did it it was absolutely pointless. I learnt more after quitting due to boredom and getting into the industry, and once you're in and get some experience it's fairly easy to get roles. These days I hear you can actually get some decent qualifications through TAFE (Microsoft, Cisco, etc), in the late 90s I had to learn useless s**t like Pascal.

Most people would use it as a gateway to a role they might actually enjoy, jump on a bag-and-tag Service Desk role, then move up to Desktop, and then work to get an opportunity from there. That's the route I took, and these days I'm doing things from Server Admin and Projects, to a bit of Cyber security.

The market is pretty flooded with IT staff, with a lot of people coming to Australia with pointless "qualifications" they basically just buy. Having seen quite a few resumes I'll say one thing though, if you're looking at getting into the industry and you actually write a resume/application to suit the role, and don't sound like an complete idiot, you're a good chance to get an interview.

If programming interests you then go for it, even if you don't end up going down that path the skills are still pretty useful, powershell and scripting are used all over the place so if you understand how to code it would be pretty easy to pick up.

I was early '00's and ended up boycotting since rheumatoid kinda stuffed my hands and syntax is important in programming, wasn't just the 90's I went TAFE and they junked the course not 2 years after I left getting poked with cold things and having old ladies compliment my upper body to make me very worried about my place in the world.

These days, I cackle whilst taking a hammer to remove a stubborn bolt on an engine then hyper focus on rewiring things tool orientated so I don't blow something hyper combustible. Or on good days, I'm in a room designed to do just that and watch pretty fireworks and make notes about it. All this just to say, I started with Java went to C++ then Cisco, died in the arse, and yo just gotta love what you do in the end.

 

[gaskin]

Steam's scheduling of downloads is ridiculous. A 25gb update for TLOU came out yesterday but doesn't have it scheduled to download until May 9. When patches come out for games, I shouldn't have to manually start the download. Unless there is something in the settings that I have missed.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

Steam's scheduling of downloads is ridiculous. A 25gb update for TLOU came out yesterday but doesn't have it scheduled to download until May 9. When patches come out for games, I shouldn't have to manually start the download. Unless there is something in the settings that I have missed.

I think if you've played the game within the last few days it's meant to download any updates straight away but if you haven't it'll schedule it later at some random time they've decided is easier on the servers

speaking of Steam, really good beta update overnight. the client in general looks a bit different and each page loads much quicker for me than it used to. they also totally reworked the in-game overlay and added note taking "app" to it which will be nice for me for classic RPG's where you wanna note down stuff to not forget later. few other things changed like the music section and screenshot manager too

Steam News - Steam Desktop Update - Steam News

Steam Client Beta has just been updated with new features and improvements

store.steampowered.com

 

[dav3]

Steam's scheduling of downloads is ridiculous. A 25gb update for TLOU came out yesterday but doesn't have it scheduled to download until May 9. When patches come out for games, I shouldn't have to manually start the download. Unless there is something in the settings that I have missed.

From a random Reddit post about a year ago

Valve deliberately made this change years ago to avoid creating a situation where they DDoS their own platform due to massive titles being updated globally at the same time by everyone.

Valve took it a step further when COVID19 hit the world, by further offsetting the scheduling of updates for titles you haven't played in the past 3 days. This may since have changed a bit.

 

[dwwaino]