Analysis Peel Thunder 2015 (TV schedule in OP)

[salim malik]

EFA

Suits always confuse me.

 

[rodney hoo]

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2015-06-08/thunder-fall-short-in-classic-clash-

Lurch & big Jack stepping up with opportunity. If only we had as many key backs as rucks

 

[Schauermann]

Pretty good stats by many players:

DeBoer: 28 disp, 14 tackles
Blakely: 34 disp.
Duffy: 18 disp., 4 goals
Hannath: 18 disp., 35 hitouts, 1 goal
Moller: 11 disp., 33 hitoits, 1 goal
Ballard: 32 disp.
Hurley: 17 disp., 1 goal
Mzungu: 20 disp., 2 goals

 

[salim malik]

Pretty good stats by many players:

DeBoer: 28 disp, 14 tackles
Blakely: 34 disp.
Duffy: 18 disp., 4 goals
Hannath: 18 disp., 35 hitouts, 1 goal
Moller: 11 disp., 33 hitoits, 1 goal
Ballard: 32 disp.
Hurley: 17 disp., 1 goal
Mzungu: 20 disp., 2 goals

Moller's game was really pleasing,probably his best game for the club.Took contested marks and controlled the hit outs.

 

[Gekko71]

Even if he wasn't influencing the game much, 17 possies and a goal from Hurley at WAFL level in such a tight match is a very pleasing sign.

 

[malpaso]

I keep wondering why Ballard hasn't been upgraded for a game or two yet. Does anyone know why that may be? Do they have him working on certain aspects of his game?
He seems to have been the most consistent player in the WAFL over the last 2 years based on looking at game statistics.
Someone needs to directly ask the club about Ballard's chances.

 

[Scham]

I keep wondering why Ballard hasn't been upgraded for a game or two yet. Does anyone know why that may be? Do they have him working on certain aspects of his game?
He seems to have been the most consistent player in the WAFL over the last 2 years based on looking at game statistics.
Someone needs to directly ask the club about Ballard's chances.

I haven't seen him this year but his disposal and decision making has been suspect (to say the least) in the past. The WAFL stats probably should include disposal efficiency and clangers to get a clearer picture of him as a player.

 

[salim malik]

I haven't seen him this year but his disposal and decision making has been suspect (to say the least) in the past. The WAFL stats probably should include disposal efficiency and clangers to get a clearer picture of him as a player.

Wrists where slit over Mitchie not getting a game.Ballard is miles in front of Mitchie .Ballard runs both ways ,has a big tank,big body and as an inside mid accumulator his disposal stats may show the odd clanger as do most hard in and under players.

 

[Paracleet]

I have a feeling Ballard might end up being trade bait

Uncapped rookies are not tradebait. They are just bait.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

I keep wondering why Ballard hasn't been upgraded for a game or two yet. Does anyone know why that may be? Do they have him working on certain aspects of his game?
He seems to have been the most consistent player in the WAFL over the last 2 years based on looking at game statistics.
Someone needs to directly ask the club about Ballard's chances.

I've not been amazed by his kicking or pace but neither is bad by any stretch of the imagination.

Here's your issue: Fyfe, Mundy, Neale, Barlow, Clancee, Suban, Mzungu, DeBoer, Sheridan, Crozier.

If (god forbid) a few of those guys went down long term I would wager Ballard would be upgraded.

 

[Frimental Fan]

I haven't seen him this year but his disposal and decision making has been suspect (to say the least) in the past. The WAFL stats probably should include disposal efficiency and clangers to get a clearer picture of him as a player.

I've not been amazed by his kicking or pace but neither is bad by any stretch of the imagination.

Here's your issue: Fyfe, Mundy, Neale, Barlow, Clancee, Suban, Mzungu, DeBoer, Sheridan, Crozier.

If (god forbid) a few of those guys went down long term I would wager Ballard would be upgraded.

I think the interesting question which remains unanswered is "how much of Ballard's form at WAFL level would be translated into AFL form?". It's a difficult thing to predict (and Lloyd and his team are obviously much better at it than us........). We know with Tendai and the great Mickey B, almost 100% of it translated (maybe their AFL form can be considered an upgrade on their WAFL/VFL form). This is probably more true of Tendai whom I saw play at WAFL level.

Anyway, Ballard is a really interesting player/prospect who displays an unbelievable attitude in terms of perseverance generally, work ethic in games and presumably (based on his development and fitness) in pre-season and in-season training. I really, really hope the guy gets a go (meaning a minimum of 3 games somewhere along the track) so the above question can be answered. If not this year, then I hope he gets upgraded to the main list for 2016. I'm very much in the camp that we want/need to be able to release Fyfe to a KPF role and watch him "carve up" Messrs Richards, Lake, Rance et al ......

 

[greatgatsby]

I think the interesting question which remains unanswered is "how much of Ballard's form at WAFL level would be translated into AFL form?". It's a difficult thing to predict (and Lloyd and his team are obviously much better at it than us........). We know with Tendai and the great Mickey B, almost 100% of it translated (maybe their AFL form can be considered an upgrade on their WAFL/VFL form). This is probably more true of Tendai whom I saw play at WAFL level.

Anyway, Ballard is a really interesting player/prospect who displays an unbelievable attitude in terms of perseverance generally, work ethic in games and presumably (based on his development and fitness) in pre-season and in-season training. I really, really hope the guy gets a go (meaning a minimum of 3 games somewhere along the track) so the above question can be answered. If not this year, then I hope he gets upgraded to the main list for 2016. I'm very much in the camp that we want/need to be able to release Fyfe to a KPF role and watch him "carve up" Messrs Richards, Lake, Rance et al ......

Good post!

 

[TheMcManusNose]

I see no reason why he shouldn't be in with a shot for an upgrade. I think we can be somewhat free-er this year in that Sylvia is retired, Crowley is likely gone, and McPharlin is unlikely to go round again (IMO). There's the requisite three spots without any trades, go-homes or surprise de-listings (Duffy vulnerable I would think). This doesn't appear to be a deep draft, so I think there's a chance there.

 

[Frimental Fan]

Good post!

Thanks greatgatsby................blushes not even sure if that's the right one ha ha

 

[malpaso]

I've not been amazed by his kicking or pace but neither is bad by any stretch of the imagination.

Here's your issue: Fyfe, Mundy, Neale, Barlow, Clancee, Suban, Mzungu, DeBoer, Sheridan, Crozier.

If (god forbid) a few of those guys went down long term I would wager Ballard would be upgraded.

Do not rate. I can't see Sheridan doing anything for us, he's like a rag doll out there. If he was any good he'd be playing like Isaac Smith or Brad Hill for us by now.

 

[TheMcManusNose]

Do not rate. I can't see Sheridan doing anything for us, he's like a rag doll out there. If he was any good he'd be playing like Isaac Smith or Brad Hill for us by now.

Nevertheless Ballard is evidently behind him in line for a spot.

 

[pavsbootlace]

I think the interesting question which remains unanswered is "how much of Ballard's form at WAFL level would be translated into AFL form?". It's a difficult thing to predict (and Lloyd and his team are obviously much better at it than us........). We know with Tendai and the great Mickey B, almost 100% of it translated (maybe their AFL form can be considered an upgrade on their WAFL/VFL form). This is probably more true of Tendai whom I saw play at WAFL level.

Anyway, Ballard is a really interesting player/prospect who displays an unbelievable attitude in terms of perseverance generally, work ethic in games and presumably (based on his development and fitness) in pre-season and in-season training. I really, really hope the guy gets a go (meaning a minimum of 3 games somewhere along the track) so the above question can be answered. If not this year, then I hope he gets upgraded to the main list for 2016. I'm very much in the camp that we want/need to be able to release Fyfe to a KPF role and watch him "carve up" Messrs Richards, Lake, Rance et al ......

Good post. But I want to pick on the bolded part. People are often saying on here how good it would be to have Fyfe forward more often. But, how many of Fyfe's contested marks has he taken when he's been matched up on a key defender? I'd suggest it's a very low figure. It's one thing to sneak forward and dominate against a midfielder. It's a very different thing to spend significant time forward matched up against Luke McPharlin.

 

[darkshines]

Do not rate. I can't see Sheridan doing anything for us, he's like a rag doll out there. If he was any good he'd be playing like Isaac Smith or Brad Hill for us by now.

You do realise that both those roles are already filled by D Pearce and Hill? How many outside running mids would you like in our team?

He's being played out of position, every one knows it, but without it he doesn't get a game.

 

[Frimental Fan]

Good post. But I want to pick on the bolded part. People are often saying on here how good it would be to have Fyfe forward more often. But, how many of Fyfe's contested marks has he taken when he's been matched up on a key forward? I'd suggest it's a very low figure. It's one thing to sneak forward and dominate against a midfielder. It's a very different thing to spend significant time forward matched up against Luke McPharlin.

I agree that playing Fyfe as a semi-permanent KPF is untried and therefor the consequences are unknown. I think however that they can be predicted with a degree of confidence. I've seen him take contested marks against ruckmen (including Sandi if I remember rightly...) and even NicNat . He has so many weapons. I think he can beat the bigger KPDs on the lead (lateral or towards the kicker) and he can destroy them on the ground. He certainly won't be pushed off the ball. I also think with his relative speed and elite endurance, he can kill them on the way back. I think of him as potentially a better version of Nick Riewoldt rather than a (wash my mouth out....) better version of the Great Pav. He has to learn the position but so far he's shown himself to be an outstanding student of the game and a driver of team structures.

Anyway, just further idle musings......... Thanks for the discussion.

 

[beetz]

Did Blakely really get 17 clearances last game?!

 

[Paracleet]

Unsure as to the WAFL record but since that stat has been collected in the AFL 17 clearances has only be exceeded on 4 occasions.

 

[theGav56]

Here's your issue: Fyfe, Mundy, Neale, Barlow, Clancee, Suban, Mzungu, DeBoer, Sheridan, Crozier.

I think Ballard's issue is Blakely.

 

[grimlock]

 

[Mr Fonebone]

Anybody know why the Irishman is not playing tomorrow?

 

[Mr Peabody]

No Duffield either. Omitted but not to play. Clarke is in there so a clear message being sent at Zac.