It’s amazing that a man who was mates with rock spiders, actively worked to protect rock spiders, and was warned off public swimming pools for rock spiderish activities, has been found guilty of being a rock spider. Knock me over with a feather.
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Religion Pell Guilty!
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He has not seen the evidence either.
Will be interesting to see the final royal commission report when it comes out as well. Have to think that will thin the ranks of pells supporters even more.
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Yes he has.
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Of course not Ivan Milat is a piece of scum and the cancer is going to kill him which he deserves
Because I have a different opinion and not follow others like a blind sheep?
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So paedophile scum is ok compared to murdering scum to just put in a nursing home rather than jail.
Please....
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Like they ever needed an excuse , their whole faith is based on feeling singled out
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Milligan speaks.
Milligan who was a witness at the trial, saw the main witnesses evidence and probably knows more about this case than any other.
But Bruce knows better.
Dickhead.
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Milligan who was a witness at the trial, saw the main witnesses evidence and probably knows more about this case than any other.
But Bruce knows better.
Dickhead.
As a witness at George Pell's trial, I saw first-hand the strength of his victim
In the end, just as in the beginning, this was a case about two little boys and their battle with the world's third most-senior Catholic. And today, child protection won, writes Louise Milligan.
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The Herald Sun. Lol. I hear they actually pay Andrew Bolt money to write his garbage for them. Deery hasn't seen the evidence and nor have you. People are shocked that someone can be convincted on the testimony of one person - but the vast majority of people who have actually seen that testimony have found it absolutely compelling. Testimony is evidence. None of the 13 supposed obstacles were actually obstacles. All the evidence points to Pell being guilty. You've just confirmation biased yourself to the point that you disregard out of hand anything that doesn't support the conclusion you came to in advance of the evidence.
It's pathetic, and it would be funny if not for how serious this is and for how it affects other survivors. You are entitled to your opinion (notwithstanding what some have suggested) but you also deserve the ridicule and sneering that's been directed at you.
That was my point. Imagine if jimmy savile had been convicted and they put him in a nursing home with...elderly patients, dead bodies and visiting kids
Scrap that, thats what they did and he was never convicted
Im guessing the poster who suggested the stupid idea would be happy entrusting his relative to be in the same nursing home?
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Oh OK. You're a free thinker with a fresh approach and everyone with a different opinion to yours is just a blind sheep. Cool.
But no seriously, have you thought through the consequences of your different opinion?
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It is a shame that Judge Southwell, didn't do a better job when Pell was first investigated.
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Southwell Report: The truth about the so-called 'exoneration' of George Pell
Cardinal George Pell was not 'exonerated' of claims of child sexual abuse, as has been claimed, by an independent investigation, writes Tess Lawrence.
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He did see the evidence. And those I have spoken to who have viewed the complainant’s evidence described it as Weinberg did. Embellished and on occasion clearly a concoction.
The only reason I raised Deery is that he described the reaction at the verdict exactly as I did. Those who had followed the case were stunned. It was my anecdotal impression at the time for which I was ridiculed, even today, and yet there he writes of exactly the same impression.
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^^ some good advice from Tim.
Yeah, but those who are informed as to what Pell had got up to during his time are satisfied he got what was coming to him. I could be wrong. All those people, including victims and others could be wrong or lying. That elderly gent in the baths who caught Pell naked trying to groom some boys, maybe he lied about it.
Blot did not see all the evidence. And frankly I doubt he even read the full transcript.
The complainant's evidence was given in a closed court, so I have grave misgivings about you knowing anyone who "viewed" it.
I can understand you hanging your hat on Weinberg because the two other Court of Appeal judges found him very credible as the quotes in this thread show. So did 12 jurors. And Justice Kidd didn't appear to have major issues with him either.
In essence it came down to one persons word over another. One person with enormous power, influence and funding opposed by a simple unknown victim. The former was the one not believed.
Can't wait for the whole matter to be resolved so the redacted sections on the child abuse RC relating to the convicted peado see the light of day. Unless, of course, the Catholic Church acts to stop it.
The following is a piece worth reading.
'He was a witness of truth': why the judges decided Cardinal George Pell was guilty
Key takeaways from judges’ summary: Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Justice Chris Maxwell found the jury’s initial verdict was not unreasonable while Justice Mark Weinberg said it should be overturned
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You seem to focus on what Weinberg said.
Why do ignore what the other two judges said??
The legal system is designed so it requires a majority one way or another.
Guess what, the majority said Pell is a peodophile.
Stop cherry picking quotes to suit your peodophile / catholic loving ideals.
Your scribbles in this forum today have been pathetic and are so blinkered.
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The reason I raise Weinberg is that his judgement reflects much of what I have said on this forum for which those “far less delusional” posters such as yourself have ridiculed me.
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Blot did not see all the evidence. And frankly I doubt he even read the full transcript.
The complainant's evidence was given in a closed court, so I have grave misgivings about you knowing anyone who "viewed" it.
I can understand you hanging your hat on Weinberg because the two other Court of Appeal judges found him very credible as the quotes in this thread show. So did 12 jurors. And Justice Kidd didn't appear to have major issues with him either.
In essence it came down to one persons word over another. One person with enormous power, influence and funding opposed by a simple unknown victim. The former was the one not believed.
Can't wait for the whole matter to be resolved so the redacted sections on the child abuse RC relating to the convicted peado see the light of day. Unless, of course, the Catholic Church acts to stop it.
The following is a piece worth reading.
'He was a witness of truth': why the judges decided Cardinal George Pell was guilty
Key takeaways from judges’ summary: Chief Justice Anne Ferguson and Justice Chris Maxwell found the jury’s initial verdict was not unreasonable while Justice Mark Weinberg said it should be overturnedwww.theguardian.com
What’s Bolt got to do with it?
“Witness of Truth”. Now there’s an Orwellian expression that should strike fear into the hearts of society.
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I didn’t say you made it up the presumably was in reference to whether you were male or not. Apologies for inadvertent offence.
A simple question for Pell apologists and defenders, why couldn't a man of god when accused of the vile acts of pedophilia not stand in the witness box, place his hand on the bible and swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth at his own trial?
Also there is suppressed evidence only seen by jury members, trial judge, appeal judges and relevant involved. Anyone particularly herald-sun fiction writers saying they are privy to it is plain blatantly lying.
Murdoch's papal knighthood is now being paid for, quid pro quos.
Also there is suppressed evidence only seen by jury members, trial judge, appeal judges and relevant involved. Anyone particularly herald-sun fiction writers saying they are privy to it is plain blatantly lying.
Murdoch's papal knighthood is now being paid for, quid pro quos.
Shocking turn of events from the Archbishop, just hours after telling everyone he accepts the court's decision. Says his thoughts and prayers are with the victim, then happily adds his voice of support to the rock spider. Also won't report other rock spiders if they confess to him.
The Catholic church will never learn.
Commensoli is effectively illegitimate as a Bishop having been sponsored into the position by Pell as is Fisher in Sydney - hypocrisy is the hallmark of this cult
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