PETA at it again

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I must admit, some vegan trying to enforce me not eating meat or animal products would probably be the only way to make me eat Maccas - so I could eat it in front of them. A Quarter Pounder should set them off nicely - I could offer them the pickles.
Don't think it would affect them in the slightest. Maccas and meat is an oxymoron.
 

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Don't think it would affect them in the slightest. Maccas and meat is an oxymoron.
Good point. Perhaps I'll just invite them down the butchers' or perhaps sing "I feel like Chicken Tonight" for them :)
 

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If it was up to me, i would have every single member of PETA thrown in jail. I reckon they cross the line from protesting into a form of anarchism and terrorist like strategies to enforce there point of views, which are really pretty damn hypocritical. I mean you would have to think that PETA has led to the death of thousands of humans especially in India where they have driven 10''s and thousands out of work.

I really dont understand how the leader of PETA differs from Osama Bin Laden really. The only difference I see in them is that Osama Bin Laden is willing to except responsibility for his killings, whereas PETA refuse to except responsibility for what they have created. I think that they should be outlawed worldwide and be put in the same category as the KKK and Al Qaeda. There a disgrace and i hope someone steps in and stops them before they start costing jobs here... just throw em all to jail.
 

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I suppose the argument with fur is the reason for the deaths are so trivial and the way they kill the mink are pretty barbaric as well.
What is barbaric for one is part of life for another. When I was younger, I was taught how to slaughter a chicken. It's not the prettiest of things to do, but to me, it was just something we did as part of our culture. The thing is, at what point do you impose your own standards on another culture?

I remember having an argument with a vegan about foie gras. To them, it was barbaric to force feed ducks and geese. To me (and seeing it from a viewpoint of a Francophile), I said that the production of foie gras wasn't a simple matter of "force feeding" of the duck and geese, but that of over feeding them, and after the feeding, they're treated with as much comfort as possible. It's not that dissimilar to battery chickens vs free range chickens - the one treated better will also taste better. Of course, neither side of the argument was going to back down.

Mark Perica said:
Are we sure that PETA has said all the things they are alleged to have said in this thread? I would be amazed that any organisation that sought credibility would have a go at fish and chips. None of the allegations are sourced other than someone saying that they read it in the "Daily Telegraph" - hardly a credible source.
I'm assuming that the info on PETA was from that story on Sixty Minutes.
 

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I must admit, some vegan trying to enforce me not eating meat or animal products would probably be the only way to make me eat Maccas - so I could eat it in front of them. A Quarter Pounder should set them off nicely - I could offer them the pickles.
I'd rather eat vegan food than eat McDonalds.

And having eaten vegan food, it tastes awful.
 

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PETA does some outstanding work towards stopping the exploitation and torture of animals, so who gives a ******** if they take some of their ideas a bit too far. They have done a great job in the boycott of Australian wool and hopefully we'll see more of this by companies who don't want to associate themselves with the disgusting and embarrassing way Australia treats it's animals. Good on em.
 

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PETA does some outstanding work towards stopping the exploitation and torture of animals, so who gives a ******** if they take some of their ideas a bit too far. They have done a great job in the boycott of Australian wool and hopefully we'll see more of this by companies who don't want to associate themselves with the disgusting and embarrassing way Australia treats it's animals. Good on em.
Considering the replies in this thread, and from some boards I post in where the majority are Americans, a lot of people give a ********.

I'm all for humane practices, no animal deserves torture/cruelty, not even a pest - but you have to draw the line somewhere for being concerned about the welfare of animals. For one, they could stop forcing people to believe their vegan way of life... and look at BOTH sides before coming to a conclusion. For one they are against keeping pets - and I'm pretty sure that does not fit into most people's ideals, maybe even yours. This is perhaps the point where you should start caring.

I certainly wouldn't want my dog and three rats taken away (assuming they succeed in that policy).

If it was up to me, i would have every single member of PETA thrown in jail. I reckon they cross the line from protesting into a form of anarchism and terrorist like strategies to enforce there point of views, which are really pretty damn hypocritical. I mean you would have to think that PETA has led to the death of thousands of humans especially in India where they have driven 10''s and thousands out of work.
Terrorist like strategies? Where? I don't think they're that bad. Extreme, yes.

I believe people like you are over exaggerating. Comparing them to other terrorist groups is a bit rich. Still, if I was a member of an animal rights group I'd be ashamed that they exist. But do not underestimate them - they have a lot of powerful people supporting them - probably rich people, celebrities and politicans.
 

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Birdy said:
PETA does some outstanding work towards stopping the exploitation and torture of animals, so who gives a ******** if they take some of their ideas a bit too far. They have done a great job in the boycott of Australian wool and hopefully we'll see more of this by companies who don't want to associate themselves with the disgusting and embarrassing way Australia treats it's animals. Good on em.

Great. WHat is the Wool industry supposed to do then? Its easy to support a cause if you dont think too hard about it, isnt it?
 

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Yeah... like they can talk.

How many hundreds of animals die as a result of cultivation and the harvesting of their vegetables? All those poor little mice, gophers, rats, rabbits, et al which either die as a result of pest control to prevent them eating those crops or getting sliced under a harvester? Why aren't they concerned about them?

These idiots want milk banned too, not to mention pets. They argue that it is inhumane to dominate an animal, or keep it in a cage. I am starting to get the expression that these people don't give a ******** about animals at all, but rather want exposure and $$$.
Hang on. Did I not hear that PETA woman on 60 minutes talk about her pet cat she keeps in the office? I was going to write her a letter asking her what food to feed my cat, as I shant be feeding him 'Whiskas Jelly Meat' any more due to the fact it contains meat. I'd also like to know how she'd turn any carnivorous animal into a fully fledged vegan, sure my dog will eat anything, but cats are stupid fussy animals that eat only one food.

I also noticed their hypicrosy that it was ok to swat flies and other insects.

Oh dear...
 

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Quite a lot of the philosophies of the PETA/vegetarian/vegan (sorry to lump you guys in together) stems from Peter Singers writings in his book, "Animal Liberation", written in the mid 1970s. In short, he argued that since animals were capable of forming relationships with each other, had memories, could experience pain (and try to avoid it)
Have you ever smelt asparagus being cooked? It's the vegetables way of saying it's in pain.
 

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I'm all for humane practices, no animal deserves torture/cruelty, not even a pest - but you have to draw the line somewhere for being concerned about the welfare of animals. For one, they could stop forcing people to believe their vegan way of life... and look at BOTH sides before coming to a conclusion. For one they are against keeping pets - and I'm pretty sure that does not fit into most people's ideals, maybe even yours. This is perhaps the point where you should start caring.

I certainly wouldn't want my dog and three rats taken away (assuming they succeed in that policy).
I'm thinking about going veg and it would be nice to see others encouraged to do the same but I certainly don't think it should be forced. I think the good work they do significantly outweighs their extreme ideas. I'm more concerned with the way animals are treated in the process. Battery cages, pig stalls, live export, just to name a few are all sick practices and should be stopped.

I'm not sure where this thing about the pets came from but people who have abused their pets certainly should be banned from ever owning another one.

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Great. WHat is the Wool industry supposed to do then? Its easy to support a cause if you dont think too hard about it, isnt it?
Well they're supposed to stop their cruel and inhumane practices or be prepared to lose money.
 

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I met up with a friend at the Brunswick Street Bookstore and she brought along a vegan friend. They found me looking through a French cookbook, complete with photos of Boeuf Bourguignon, and I copped an earful from the vegan about "eating death". Which was quite ironic considering that the vegan looked like death, but that's another issue I have with vegans.

The funny thing was that my friend wanted to set me up with this vegan girl - and no, I had no idea why she thought this would be a good match up in the first place.
If you go down on a Vegan is that morally wrong? Smells like fish ..tastes like chicken

I remember a friend started going out with a vegetarian and I commiserated with him because she didnt eat meat. :cool:
 

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Well they're supposed to stop their cruel and inhumane practices or be prepared to lose money.
Once again, Ignorance. This cruel and inhumane act stops what was it, 25%(?) of sheep being eaten alive by maggots each year.

OH THE ********ING HUMANITY!!!
 

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If it was up to me, i would have every single member of PETA thrown in jail. I reckon they cross the line from protesting into a form of anarchism and terrorist like strategies to enforce there point of views, which are really pretty damn hypocritical. I mean you would have to think that PETA has led to the death of thousands of humans especially in India where they have driven 10''s and thousands out of work.

I really dont understand how the leader of PETA differs from Osama Bin Laden really. The only difference I see in them is that Osama Bin Laden is willing to except responsibility for his killings, whereas PETA refuse to except responsibility for what they have created. I think that they should be outlawed worldwide and be put in the same category as the KKK and Al Qaeda. There a disgrace and i hope someone steps in and stops them before they start costing jobs here... just throw em all to jail.
it all comes back to the media who give them the oxygen of free publicity so these w@nkers can get their 15 minutes of fame and feel self important when their campaigns work.
 

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Birdy said:
I'm thinking about going veg and it would be nice to see others encouraged to do the same but I certainly don't think it should be forced.
I hope you give up all other animal by products such as leather, wool, gelatin, dairy products, eggs, pet food, soap, honey, margarine, pasta, ink, glue, bone china, refrigerators, candles, matches, feather pillows, buttons and finally dont ever take any drugs or medication because its likely to have been tested on animals first.

If you can do all that then you wont be a hypocrite.
 
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