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I'm of the opinion that Byron Pickett has long been one of the hardest and toughest players in the league. This is the only time I think he has stepped over the line where one of his bumps is concerned. I've only seen the replay twice, but it seemed like he didn't exactly have the ideal line to win the ball and by the time he hit Begley was a little past it (I await the possibility of correction from a supporter of either side who has credibility).
I think this play was very similar to Michael Long's hit on Troy Simmonds. I can't recall what Long got but I guess it's irrelevant with the new system.
I was angered by Pickett's bump on Sunday night, only because it was a Crows player, but I'm not the sort to let this skew my assessment of what the player should get. From the two times I saw it, I said he should get 4-5. I wouldn't be surprised or disappointed if he got 3, but 6+ I agree is too much.
 
Vic Crow said:
I'm of the opinion that Byron Pickett has long been one of the hardest and toughest players in the league. This is the only time I think he has stepped over the line where one of his bumps is concerned. I've only seen the replay twice, but it seemed like he didn't exactly have the ideal line to win the ball and by the time he hit Begley was a little past it (I await the possibility of correction from a supporter of either side who has credibility).
I think this play was very similar to Michael Long's hit on Troy Simmonds. I can't recall what Long got but I guess it's irrelevant with the new system.
I was angered by Pickett's bump on Sunday night, only because it was a Crows player, but I'm not the sort to let this skew my assessment of what the player should get. From the two times I saw it, I said he should get 4-5. I wouldn't be surprised or disappointed if he got 3, but 6+ I agree is too much.
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They said on Ch10 news here in Adelaide that Long copped a 5 match ban for that bump on Simmonds.
 
Why does this have to be a ( aaargghhhh ) black and white issue? I first posted that my first impression was it was a football bump..watching the replay I felt it was a poor bump. But to attack not only Pickett for every past sin commited by every hard player, but to also attack those posters who dont see this as a dog attack but as a part of football as poor as it is in this day and age reeks of the same myopic view you accuse the Port supporters. I originally said 2 weeks but looking at how the system works would not be surprised if he gets 4.

We all love our football and we will support our players and supporters and attack those of the opposition.Even those who have posted valid and reasonable posts have been attacked over there ''bias''. Lets agree it was a terrible bump and that he should get 4 weeks , otherwise this thread will be like a festered ****************..just sitting there waiting to be picked over.

I am over it and looking forward to how we go against Geelong
 
Stiffy_18 said:
They said on Ch10 news here in Adelaide that Long copped a 5 match ban for that bump on Simmonds.
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They often say that any fireworks in a Grand Final will lend itself to a harsher suspension and I'm racking my brain to remember if that was the case in 2000.
 

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I am a Bribane supporter,and a mother of 2.I still plays footy.Mind u he is a 194cm.

You have to protect the player with his eyes on the footy, with his head over the footy.Its paramount to our game.

Pickett had no intentions of going for the ball,if he had of had eyes for the ball ,he would have had the ball and no bump would have occured.

He had eyes on the man only.Thats not what the games about, the players are supposed to want to get the ball and play on with it, not get the man.

I know if that happened to my kid, I would be furious.If Pickett or anyone else continues to play the man with his head over the ball, its only going to be a matter of time before someone is killed or maimed on the ground.We don't want that.We are playing footy, not playing the man.

He should get the manadtory 6 weeks, he should plead guilty and show remorse.That won't happen though.
 
SpringChoke said:
And you should look at past Pickett incidents before you make yourself look stupid. The guy has been cowardly skirting the packs looking to take out ball players for years now. About time the AFL did something about it. But knowing the reactiveness of the AFL he will get off. Then when and if he does serious damage to someone they will say "********e we didn't see that coming".

BTW Under the current rules, he will get at the very minimum of 5 games.
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Settle, it was said in jest. I'm in NO way defending Choppy and he will get what he deserves at the tribunal hopefully (tho I think 6 weeks is a tad harsh). His tribunal record is pretty clean tho. That's all I was getting at.

All I'm hoping for is some consistency now. Hate to think what the penalty will be if someone gets seriously hurt, but hope they penalise the likes of Crawford, Buckley, Hird etc the same if they get caught breaking the rules (the golden haired boys of AFL)
 
Picket is a hard man and plays it tough....however, I think he is a sniper and looks for these opportunities. (Just like Peter Burgoyne, he waits behind a tree until it's his turn!) He will go, no doubt about it.
 
Having seen the incident replayed for the first time since seeing it live, I think 5-6 games is fair enough.

I think it was absolutely intentional, extremely dangerous and equally cowardly. That sort of attack on a player has the potential to cause far more serious consiquences than the Bickley or Lynch incidents with the worst cases being life in a wheel chair or even death.

The guy not only has to accept his penalty, he needs to go and get some proffesional help, he is seriously fkd up.
 
Toots Hibbert said:
With all the TV footage of every game during Picketts career thats a very silly thing to say.
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Well with all the so called TV footage as you describe it, how come they still miss some of the behind the play incidents last year. Call me silly if you must but when you make comments like that, then they must then come under scutiny as well. And with his style of play can you be totally 100% sure that he hasnt been involved? :confused:
 
For a man who is only 178cm tall and weighs 84 kilograms, he has such a reputation, perhaps he should only pick on people his own size
 
portentous said:
Settle, it was said in jest. I'm in NO way defending Choppy and he will get what he deserves at the tribunal hopefully (tho I think 6 weeks is a tad harsh). His tribunal record is pretty clean tho. That's all I was getting at.

All I'm hoping for is some consistency now. Hate to think what the penalty will be if someone gets seriously hurt, but hope they penalise the likes of Crawford, Buckley, Hird etc the same if they get caught breaking the rules (the golden haired boys of AFL)
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How can you mention genuine fair ball players like these in the same post as Pickett. He will get 5 games under the new system which is fair in my opinion. The real problem he will have going forward is that he will now be scrutinised, and rightly so, more heavily. We may see Byron coping a few suspensions from here on in.
 

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Markthirtytwo said:
Well with all the so called TV footage as you describe it, how come they still miss some of the behind the play incidents last year. Call me silly if you must but when you make comments like that, then they must then come under scutiny as well. And with his style of play can you be totally 100% sure that he hasnt been involved? :confused:
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interesting in regards to missing incidents....

i did see damon white cop an elbow that left him looking pretty messy on sunday night.
 
SpringChoke said:
How can you mention genuine fair ball players like these in the same post as Pickett. He will get 5 games under the new system which is fair in my opinion. The real problem he will have going forward is that he will now be scrutinised, and rightly so, more heavily. We may see Byron coping a few suspensions from here on in.
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Crawford got off on a technicality when he should have got weeks, Buckley's blood smearing incident wasn't dealt with adequately........I probably shouldn't have mentioned Hirdy tho, he's one of my favourites.

All I'm getting at is that we better see some consistency this year. It didn't happen last year......I don't have a problem with Choppy getting 5 weeks or whatever, as long as it's consistent during the season and he isn't just an 'example' early on, and others are treated more leniently later.
 
Macca19 said:
Actually I do have Roos hit on Kemp on video. Just have to search thru my old sports videos to find it.

As for the elbow. Please name me one time where Pickett has got someone with an outstretched elbow. I strongly doubt there has been as if he did he would have most definately been reported before...and considering this is his first ever report for one of his bumps, i really have to doubt there being one.

His bumps may be dangerous and sometimes high, but one thing ive never ever seen him do is get someone with an elbow Bickley style and i reckon Kangaroos supporters would tell you the same as well.
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Elbow, who mentioned an elbow? It's his hitting style that will get him into hot water if he continues with it. Lining a player with the ball up, is a split second decision whether to continue or not, but when someone gets rid of the ball quicker than he realises, and follows through with the hit, then he must be held accountable for that action. I have seen instances where hes delivered a hit late on a player and didnt get a game. Havent you thought the same thing about other instances where you believed someone should have got a game or more but got off.

You could see this one he lined Begley up from at least 10 metres away, Begley either fumbled the ball or saw him coming and released the ball waiting for the hit. Either way it was a low act.

You PAPS keep bringing up the Bickley incident, and yes it too was a low act-he knew that and appologised- but he never, never in his entire playing history went out to hurt someone, unlike Pickett. YOu also ask us not to dwell on the past re our premerships whenever that topic comes up, but you lot seem to forget that when it suits you. Either ingnorance or hypocrocy.
 
It's a pity to see such a talented footballer known better for his thuggery than his skills. I think the Great Man summed it up on Sunday night when he said....."That was just plain stupid".

I hope they throw the book at him because he seems to be taking no notice of the warnings...he has a blantant disrespect for the game, the rules, and others playing it.

From a different angle........I get the feeling he thinks he is indestructable.......his playing habits and wrecklessness seem to be a symptom of other bigger personal issues......it would be a shame to see him end up like a couple before him with the same mentality.....especially since he has a young family.
 

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Macca19 said:
So you think Riccuito should have been outlawed from the game 10 years ago after he nearly decapitated Dean Kemp who had his head over the ball and Roos only intention was the bump? No...didnt think so.
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Macca19 said:
I was still quite young back then but I didnt like it no. I remember thinking it looked like he had killed him. It was a fair bump as he got him with the shoulder but it was a very very hard hit.
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These two comments seem to contradict themselves.
 
Mad Dog said:
It's a pity to see such a talented footballer known better for his thuggery than his skills. I think the Great Man summed it up on Sunday night when he said....."That was just plain stupid".
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Yup, he is talented and well known for his "bumps" not only from Port, but when he was at the Kangas. At times he uses it well, but other times its plain stupid. There are be a few times where players go in hard when other player has their head over the ball, but for Pickett he lined him up before he even got there and didn't pull out - which he should have. I'm sure Pickett would be feeling pretty sorry about it, but not because of the matches he will cop. I'm hoping the coaching staff talk to him about it and let him know what damage he could have done to the player he hit. Not only that but he let himself down by doing that bump in the dyin mins of the game after he played fantastic.

With the new laws, I hope many players who get off weak normally cop the same treatment as everyone else - the protected players should be dealt with like everyone else. Pickett hasn't gone for something as dangerous as this but I'm sure he'll get the 4-6 week treatment for it.
 
Picket takes on the smaller blokes because he still remembers that time in the 98 Grand Final where he tried to flatten D.Jarman and ended up on his arse!
 
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