List Mgmt. Player Ages Thread

[monty1104]

Still no news on Chapman? only a couple of days left for the deadline.

I believe we still have a few extra days as we can sign Chappy as a Delisted FA

 

[Ashton Agar]

Jared Polec has just started going out with a chick that went to my school here in Melbourne (yes she's insanely hot).

Wonder if it will sway him towards coming to Victoria instead. Worth a look?

You don't happen to have her number do you?

 

[smooth mover]

Still no news on Chapman? only a couple of days left for the deadline.

Yeah as far as I was aware the Delisted Free Agents system kicks off from Nov 1st, so we can't technically sign him up as a DFA until after that date? Not 100% sure so please correct me if I'm wrong??

 

[Fear Boner]

Yeah as far as I was aware the Delisted Free Agents system kicks off from Nov 1st, so we can't technically sign him up as a DFA until after that date? Not 100% sure so please correct me if I'm wrong??

wrong

 

[The Prosecutor]

Geelong offered him a contract didn't they?

So technically, he's not a delisted free agent.

In any case, some official clarification would be good.

 

[Eleven 38]

Geelong offered him a contract didn't they?

So technically, he's not a delisted free agent.

In any case, some official clarification would be good.

I'm pretty sure Balmey on SEN said he's a delisted FA.

 

[bazzadog]

when does the period close ?

 

[smooth mover]

wrong

Key draft and free agency dates


Friday 4 October - Gillette AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period begins.

Friday 4 October by 2pm - Gillette AFL father-son bidding nominations; Academy bidding nominations lodged with AFL.

Monday 7 October 10am - father/son and Academy players bidding meeting; Gillette AFL Trade period begins.

Friday 18 October at 5pm - close of Gillette AFL restricted free agency offer and unrestricted free agency period.

Monday 21 October - Gillette AFL restricted free agency matching offer three-day period ends.

Friday 25 October at 2pm - Gillette AFL Trade period closes.

Thursday 31 October by 2pm - list lodgement (1); rookie promotion to primary list; retained second and third-year rookies; scholarship players; alternate talent player nominations.

Friday 1 November - Gillette AFL delisted player free agency period (1) begins.

Friday 8 November - international players inclusion on rookie list form; players not registered or played for 3 years rookie list form lodgement.

Wednesday 13 November - Gillette AFL delisted player free agency period (1) closes; out of contract listed AFL primary list players draft nomination form and player request for removal from list form lodged with AFL; new or expired (after 3 years) draft nomination form lodgement. Priority zone selections – NSW/ACTand NT on the primary list of GWS Giants.

Thursday 14 November by 2pm - list lodgement (2) and TPP estimates.

Friday 15 November - Gillette AFL delisted player free agency period (2) commences.

Monday 18 November – delisted primary list draft nomination form lodgement; non–retained rookie players draft nomination form lodgement; Gillette AFL delisted free agency period (2) concludes.

Thursday 21 November - NAB AFL Draft selection meeting (Gold Coast Convention Centre).

Friday 22 November - Gillette AFL delisted player free agency period (3) commences.

Monday 25 November - Gillette AFL delisted free agency period (3) concludes; AFL club list lodgement (3); notification of NSW and Qld pre-selected rookies, father-son pre-selected rookies, Academy pre-selected rookies, international scholarship pre-selected rookies and scholarship pre-selected rookies nominated if not selected in the pre-season draft.

Wednesday 27 November - NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft selection meeting (11am, Telstra Webex); NAB AFL Rookie Draft selection meeting (11.10am, Telstra Webex)

Monday 2 December – final list lodgement and final TPP estimates.


Yeah, so you were saying??

 

[Ashton Agar]

Geelong offered him a contract didn't they?

So technically, he's not a delisted free agent.

In any case, some official clarification would be good.

No Geelong gave him the arse.

If they offered him a contract we wouldn't be discussing him.

 

[The Prosecutor]

No Geelong gave him the arse.

If they offered him a contract we wouldn't be discussing him.

They did offer him a contract, but it was only reflective of him playing 10 games over one year so he said no.

 

[Hartnet]

No Geelong gave him the arse.

If they offered him a contract we wouldn't be discussing him.

Geelong actually offered him a 10 game contract


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[Ashton Agar]

They did offer him a contract, but it was only reflective of him playing 10 games over one year so he said no.

Geelong actually offered him a 10 game contract


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Oh, did they? I was unaware of that. I assume they are still eligible for DFA, seeing as they are listed as "delisted" on the league website.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

After he rejected it, the Cats did him the courtesy of allowing him to move as a DFA as well as a UFA.

 

[smooth mover]

After he rejected it, the Cats did him the courtesy of allowing him to move as a DFA as well as a UFA.

Yes that's correct, so now we are allowed to talk to him & offer him a contract but he can't officially sign it until 1st of November when the DFA period begins....

 

[Loonerty]

Yes that's correct, so now we are allowed to talk to him & offer him a contract but he can't officially sign it until 1st of November when the DFA period begins....

No. He is an unrestricted free agent.

 

[smooth mover]

No. He is an unrestricted free agent.

Yeah ok so if you want to call him an UFA why the hell would we bother picking him up as that? If we take him as an UFA then that means Geelong will be compensated a pick for him albeit 3rd round maybe due to his age & contract status? Instead after Nov 1st we can pick him up as a DFA which means Geelong get SFA for him! So considering they are the 1's that only offered him a stingey 10 game contract, so #1 I don't think they deserve a compo pick & #2 after the way they dissed our Bomber when he joined us they can once again kiss my ass.... So this is why we will pick him up after the 1st of Nov as a DFA!! If not I will publicly apologise!!

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Geelong won't be compensated regardless. Similar to Clint Young last year.

 

[smooth mover]

Geelong won't be compensated regardless. Similar to Clint Young last year.

Yeah ok! Honest question though, so how exactly does that work then if he is still technically on their list until final list lodgements where they will have to delist him? If he gets regarded as an UFA when he signs with a new club then shouldn't they get a compo pick? Or if they have already delisted him then he isn't an UFA, he'd now be a DFA? Which they wouldn't get a pick for but we can't officially sign him until Nov 1st?

 

[WEEVZ]

Yeah ok so if you want to call him an UFA why the hell would we bother picking him up as that? If we take him as an UFA then that means Geelong will be compensated a pick for him albeit 3rd round maybe due to his age & contract status? Instead after Nov 1st we can pick him up as a DFA which means Geelong get SFA for him! So considering they are the 1's that only offered him a stingey 10 game contract, so #1 I don't think they deserve a compo pick & #2 after the way they dissed our Bomber when he joined us they can once again kiss my ass.... So this is why we will pick him up after the 1st of Nov as a DFA!! If not I will publicly apologise!!

Wrong! The club of a departing UFA does NOT get any compensation whatsoever (compo picks are ONLY given in the event of an RFA leaving).

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Yeah ok! Honest question though, so how exactly does that work then if he is still technically on their list until final list lodgements where they will have to delist him? If he gets regarded as an UFA when he signs with a new club then shouldn't they get a compo pick? Or if they have already delisted him then he isn't an UFA, he'd now be a DFA? Which they wouldn't get a pick for but we can't officially sign him until Nov 1st?

You only get compensated for losing "Restricted" Free Agents...

 

[Ashton Agar]

You only get compensated for losing "Restricted" Free Agents...

No. You can get compo for losing unrestricted. However it's usually a 3rd rounder if anything because all the UFA's don't have much worth.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Yeah ok! Honest question though, so how exactly does that work then if he is still technically on their list until final list lodgements where they will have to delist him? If he gets regarded as an UFA when he signs with a new club then shouldn't they get a compo pick? Or if they have already delisted him then he isn't an UFA, he'd now be a DFA? Which they wouldn't get a pick for but we can't officially sign him until Nov 1st?

Clint Young was a UFA. The AFL has discretionary powers and can opt to not compensate for a free agent. Shannon Byrnes was another.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Wrong! The club of a departing UFA does NOT get any compensation whatsoever (compo picks are ONLY given in the event of an RFA leaving).

Totally untrue.

 

[smooth mover]

Wrong! The club of a departing UFA does NOT get any compensation whatsoever (compo picks are ONLY given in the event of an RFA leaving).

You only get compensated for losing "Restricted" Free Agents...

You 2 sure bout this?? What was Goddard? What is Franklin? & What is Daisy? I'm sure either a RFA or UFA gets compensated for losing players?

 

[Loonerty]

You 2 sure bout this?? What was Goddard? What is Franklin? & What is Daisy? I'm sure either a RFA or UFA gets compensated for losing players?

All 3 of those are restricted.