Player Comparison Thread - Part 2

[Schulzenfest]

Definitely Adcock and Krak Stiffy. Malceski and Lucas are both coming off serious injuries, had trouble recovering from them last year and neither have showed anything in the preseason to suggest they'll be much better this year. Adcock > Malceski and Krak (or Skipworth, or Higgins) > Lucas. SS, I personally think that the two cheaper options you've got there will be better than the two expensive ones. I'd have Kornes + Gibbs and save some money for other areas. But you can't really go wrong with any of those players. One thing you have to be careful of is not reading too much into Selwood's performance last night, as inside mids always dominate against the Magpies for some reason.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Knights V Wells

Both having cracking pre-seasons and am tempted to look at 1 of these guys as a mid keeper.

Leaning towards Knights due to him more then likely not receiving a tag. Is Wells likely to cop most of the attention come H&A season?

My concern with Knights is Adl have alot of good midfielders in Vince, VB, Thompson, Reilly etc etc and may have an effect on Knights output.

 

[Souup]

Brent Harvey likely to cop a tag but more often then not Wells gets the #1 tag.

 

[kangaroo19]

Pav+Didak+Bock+Ziebell

or

Richo+S Johnson+Enright+Hentschell

The other thing I can't decide upon is Kornes v Swan.

Any thoughts?

 

[samwise]

Tuck for me.

Anyone else think daniel wells is good value ?? I think hes in for a huge year and has said he wants to work on his consistency and to repay the club for showing faith in him

mm 22 rounds i dont think so. lots of talk like that pre round 1. he will probably have another few great games than last year but still not a great dream team keeper in my opinion.


what do people think about starting anthony and having say beams and robinson on the bench? i think i will do it cuz i think anthony is just as likely to play as many games as rich and is much cheaper. plus beams and robinson should be good bench scorers as well.

also who would people take out of haselby, reilly, ttuck, winderlich, masten, grigg?

 

[Crimson King]

Fevola or ROK?

I know Fevola is cheaper but with Carlton's midfield and them set for a surge I think he could average 85+ where as with Sydney on the slide, not sure how good of a season ROK might have.

 

[Houli2Gumbleton]

Fevola or ROK?

I know Fevola is cheaper but with Carlton's midfield and them set for a surge I think he could average 85+ where as with Sydney on the slide, not sure how good of a season ROK might have.

I would honestly go with Fevola. He averaged 85 last year and now with a better team he will most likely average around 90. Good enough for a 5th or 6th forward by the end of the year imo. ROK's team is on the way down that is why I don't see him improving.

Skipworth or Krakour?

 

[sunnyTEE]

Jackson or Kerr??

I believe Jackson could make me some solid coin and is less likely to have a brain fade - however Kerr realisticly should score more points.

 

[Knife Wrench]

I would honestly go with Fevola. He averaged 85 last year and now with a better team he will most likely average around 90. Good enough for a 5th or 6th forward by the end of the year imo. ROK's team is on the way down that is why I don't see him improving.

Skipworth or Krakour?

Was actually about to ask the same thing

At the moment i might aswell flip a coin

 

[juricin]

Tuck or Masten as 6th midfielder at the end of the season?

 

[buddymania]

Which would you select:

1. Drummond + Brent Harvey/Didak

2. Drummond + Steve Johnson

3. Adcock + Steve Johnson

My thoughts: Heard S.Johnson has been pulled off the track because he has been training too hard... think we will see him rotate through the middle when ablett rests forward, and will play up the ground pretty much as an extra man. Thinking drummond over adcock as he seems to be the go to man in defence to set up play. Not sold on brent harvey heard he will play more forward this year?

 

[Lakey91]

I would honestly go with Fevola. He averaged 85 last year and now with a better team he will most likely average around 90. Good enough for a 5th or 6th forward by the end of the year imo. ROK's team is on the way down that is why I don't see him improving.

Skipworth or Krakour?

Fev kicked 99 goals last year, yet only averaged 82. Whereds the improvement going to come from???

Okeffe roams free, which could work well with the zone IMO.

 

[Benno_900]

Yeh had a convo last year about 2009 season and he was my pick to improve to elite level. His second half to the 2008 was pretty good i thought. Turning 25 and will be in his prime and see a lot more consistency i think. What do you think lakey?

I'd be wary if he cops a tag, otherwise he'd average 95+.

 

[catsdynasty]

Which would you select:

1. Drummond + Brent Harvey/Didak

2. Drummond + Steve Johnson

3. Adcock + Steve Johnson

My thoughts: Heard S.Johnson has been pulled off the track because he has been training too hard... think we will see him rotate through the middle when ablett rests forward, and will play up the ground pretty much as an extra man. Thinking drummond over adcock as he seems to be the go to man in defence to set up play. Not sold on brent harvey heard he will play more forward this year?

I reckon that S. Johnson is the way to go and I think Drummond is the player that can get more points up but it's only if he keeps himself fit

 

[foley4brownlow]

ben cousins or chris knights?

COUSINS-i havnt seen any sides with the cuzz. is always going to get his 20 or 30 touches on a weekly basis which should get him 90 ppg on an average week. when he has a big one he could score in excess of 120.interesting to see how he goes in a new side but should average 95. thoughts?

KNIGHTS-had a bit of a breakout year last year with some big 100+ scores but injury played its part throughout the year which effected him playing to full capacity. should look to have another big year in a pretty strong crows midfield and should average 90-95.

who is the better option?

 

[juricin]

i would go drummond + johnson

 

[Houli2Gumbleton]

Chapman + skipworth + gibbs?

or

pavlich + rich + j.selwood/s.tuck?

Also another which has been annoying me for a while is:

S.Tuck or J.Selwood? J.Selwood played unbelievably good last night, but couldn't reach 120.

 

[thebirdman 24]

ben cousins or chris knights?

COUSINS-i havnt seen any sides with the cuzz. is always going to get his 20 or 30 touches on a weekly basis which should get him 90 ppg on an average week. when he has a big one he could score in excess of 120.interesting to see how he goes in a new side but should average 95. thoughts?

KNIGHTS-had a bit of a breakout year last year with some big 100+ scores but injury played its part throughout the year which effected him playing to full capacity. should look to have another big year in a pretty strong crows midfield and should average 90-95.

who is the better option?

I got both in my team, but if your looking at one i would go for Knights as he has less chance of breaking down (younger) than cousins. Both will probably average 90 something. Suprised noones got Cuz.

 

[AdamG03]

Ok quite a dilemma for me. Its a bit risky but if it pulls off, it will be a good one like any risk lol

In my fwd line i have Jack Riewoldt as my 5th fwd (3 guns with Dale Thomas 4th fwd).

Then in my backline i have Malceski, Houlihan, Raines and Grimes all starting.

Originally had Hill in my backline reserves but the cash could be used elsewhere to upgrade. Now i am having a few doubts over Malceski so is it too risky to do Malceski to Hill?

Means im starting Raines, Grimes and Hill (Petrenko and Suban on the bench)
Though i dont wanna miss out on any of the above mentioned 3. Can see them all rising a fair bit/maybe 1 of them becomin a keeper.

But means having the cash to upgrade these players:
Jack Riewoldt to T Cloke
J Selwood to Dalziell
Foley to Chris Knights
A lot of upgrades all around plus around 27k more left.

So for the sake of comparison its really:

Jack Riewoldt, Malceski, J Selwood, Foley VS Travis Cloke, Stephen Hill, Dalziell, Knights + 27k

Thoughts?

Can also downgrade my 4th Ruck Sellar to Jacobs and its enough money to trade O'Keefe to Didak:

Jack Riewoldt, Malceski, J Selwood, Foley, O'Keefe VS Travis Cloke, Stephen Hill, Dalziell, Knights + Didak

Also who is everyone thinking for reserve CTR rookies? 2 spots up for grabs between the trio of Robinson, Beams and Anthony. Leaning towards Anthony and then can't split the other two.

Thanks
AdamG03

 

[AdamG03]

Chapman + skipworth + gibbs?

or

pavlich + rich + j.selwood/s.tuck?

Also another which has been annoying me for a while is:

S.Tuck or J.Selwood? J.Selwood played unbelievably good last night, but couldn't reach 120.

Chapman played 21 games last year out of 24 i think so hes not the most durable but he can score a bit. Its a risk taking him with the others around his price for option. Pavlich hasn't had much of a preseason and he doesnt go hell for leather in preseason anyway so can't make an observation on him just yet but i think his midfield numbers will be less than when he was the number 1 target up fwd (marks, kicks, goals)

I thought Skipworth would be a much better choice in the fwd line than in the CTR unless ur moving the cash around to do other changes. Rich is good as a 6th midfielder, Skipworth will be better used as a FWD.

Gibbs IMO will do better than J Selwood and S Tuck.
J Selwood is a great player but is the most likely to be tagged after they TRY to tag gablett. S Tuck i haven't really looked at much so don't want to comment.

 

[AdamG03]

ben cousins or chris knights?

COUSINS-i havnt seen any sides with the cuzz. is always going to get his 20 or 30 touches on a weekly basis which should get him 90 ppg on an average week. when he has a big one he could score in excess of 120.interesting to see how he goes in a new side but should average 95. thoughts?

KNIGHTS-had a bit of a breakout year last year with some big 100+ scores but injury played its part throughout the year which effected him playing to full capacity. should look to have another big year in a pretty strong crows midfield and should average 90-95.

who is the better option?

Knights, i can't see Cousins body holding up for the whole year.
Knights scored well last year even though he experienced some injury niggles but i like the look of him.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Ok quite a dilemma for me. Its a bit risky but if it pulls off, it will be a good one like any risk lol

In my fwd line i have Jack Riewoldt as my 5th fwd (3 guns with Dale Thomas 4th fwd).

Then in my backline i have Malceski, Houlihan, Raines and Grimes all starting.

Originally had Hill in my backline reserves but the cash could be used elsewhere to upgrade. Now i am having a few doubts over Malceski so is it too risky to do Malceski to Hill?

Means im starting Raines, Grimes and Hill (Petrenko and Suban on the bench)
Though i dont wanna miss out on any of the above mentioned 3. Can see them all rising a fair bit/maybe 1 of them becomin a keeper.

But means having the cash to upgrade these players:
Jack Riewoldt to T Cloke
J Selwood to Dalziell
Foley to Chris Knights
A lot of upgrades all around plus around 27k more left.

So for the sake of comparison its really:

Jack Riewoldt, Malceski, J Selwood, Foley VS Travis Cloke, Stephen Hill, Dalziell, Knights + 27k

Thoughts?

Can also downgrade my 4th Ruck Sellar to Jacobs and its enough money to trade O'Keefe to Didak:

Jack Riewoldt, Malceski, J Selwood, Foley, O'Keefe VS Travis Cloke, Stephen Hill, Dalziell, Knights + Didak

Also who is everyone thinking for reserve CTR rookies? 2 spots up for grabs between the trio of Robinson, Beams and Anthony. Leaning towards Anthony and then can't split the other two.

Thanks
AdamG03

I think it's definitely worth trading down Malceski, going by his PS he's no guarantee to score much better than Hill anyway. I think Knights will score about 10 PPG more than Foley, Didak will score about 10 PPG more than O'Keefe and Dalziell will score about 5 PPG more than Selwood, and those approx. 25 points a game will be much more than what Malceski gets over Hill IMO. Not 100 percent sure on getting Cloke though, I don't rate him. Any other downgrades you could do to get Cloke up to a Giansiracusa or Chapman type?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Jacobs v Spencer

Both rookie listed rucks who will be upgraded (if not already). Who will play more?

 

[Schulzenfest]

Probably Spencer. Warnock and Jamar both have LTI's, so taking them both out Kreuzer, Cloke and Hampson are ahead of Jacobs and Johnson, Meesen are ahead of Spencer. But Spencer could easily overtake Meesen. As a depth chart

Carlton
1. Warnock (inj)
2. Kreuzer
3. Hampson
4. Jacobs

Melbourne
1. Jamar (inj)
2. P. Johnson
3. Meesen/Spencer

So Jacobs has to overtake Hampson and Spencer has to overtake Meesen. Hampson >>> Meesen, and if Spencer plays well enough he could probably overtake Jamar too. I've got Spencer in my team ATM.

 

[Cruiser23]

Probably Spencer. Warnock and Jamar both have LTI's, so taking them both out Kreuzer, Cloke and Hampson are ahead of Jacobs and Johnson, Meesen are ahead of Spencer. But Spencer could easily overtake Meesen. As a depth chart

Carlton
1. Warnock (inj)
2. Kreuzer
3. Cloke
4. Hampson
5. Jacobs

Melbourne
1. Jamar (inj)
2. P. Johnson
3. Meesen/Spencer

So even with Warnock out Jacobs has to overtake at least two ruckman in the pecking order to get a game, both of whom he's way behind IMO, while Spencer only has to overtake Meesen to be best 22, which could easily happen. I've got Spencer in my team ATM.

Cloke shouldn't be classified in the ruck, he will hardly play there all year. Scratch his name from that list.