Please No Bock

[Dandy_GO]

I really think, given your performances, you should really just leave the Jericho one alone.

I don't.

Look, I agree with what you're trying to say here. I just do not see how Jericho is a relevant example.

Bock was a KPP starting his third season on our main list, having debuted the season before. He was always going to take a while to develop, and people were far too hard on him. He proved them wrong. Sellar is only in his second year with us, yet already people are writing him off. Hopefully he'll prove them wrong too.

Jericho has just finished his sixth year with us, having been drafted the same year Bock was upgraded from our rookie list. He debuted the same year Bock did, 2004, and has always had one major glaring weakness in his game that he's failed to address. His critics, including myself, have always cited this flaw as being the one reason why he should not be playing. He's been given 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc chances to fix his game, including in the eyes of supporters like myself, but has consistently put in soft efforts; most recently in the second showdown of this year. There is a difference.

I'll admit I was dead wrong in suggesting he wasn't injured in the first showdown, and have gone too personal sometimes, but you're also in the wrong to suggest that in his 6th year with us, 4 years after debuting, having shown exactly **** ALL improvement in the one area of his game we've all been calling for him to address (hardness at the man and at the contested ball), that writing off Jericho is in any way similar to how people wrote off Bock

Regardless of whether you think me calling Jericho "soft" is a personal slight against him, the fact that it's looking increasinly likely that he'll be gone in a couple of weeks would suggest that I, and others, were not at all premature in our judgments of him. Quite frankly, if you're going to suggest that I'm personally attacking Jericho by calling him soft in football terms, then you suggesting that me (and others) writing off Jericho FOUR SEASONS after his debut is similar to Bock being written off after ONE bad SANFL game is a personal slight against our football observation skills.

If he somehow keeps his place on our list, or we find a trade, and he addresses his deficiency, then we'll be wrong, but after six years, I can't agree that we've been premature in writing him off.

Players, including Bock AND Sellar do get written off too quickly on these boards, but surely Jericho isn't one of them.

 

[AndrewJo]

So is there still hope for Matty "Mad Dog" Smith Mac? Did we write him off too early? He was only on our list for 12 years - did really get much of a chance.

Nice try to divert the argument away from some of your comments you posted about Bock. Just admit you were wrong in this case and don't throw up a red herring.

 

[CaptainDangerfield]

Nice try to divert the argument away from some of your comments you posted about Bock. Just admit you were wrong in this case and don't throw up a red herring.

Wow you've got me, how will my pride ever survive. I am the first person in BF history to right off a good player.

 

[Southerntakeover]

I don't.

Look, I agree with what you're trying to say here. I just do not see how Jericho is a relevant example.

Sure, that would be the case if you interpreted my bump (check the date on it btw) was intended as a reason to never criticize any player. Not the case.

The better reading would suggest that alot can change in football, and some would be better off holding back on their more blatant overreactions (this thread is full of them), as they can bite you on the ass. There were enough of them in relation to Jericho to justify his name being included.

 

[Dandy_GO]

The better reading would suggest that alot can change in football, and some would be better off holding back on their more blatant overreactions (this thread is full of them), as they can bite you on the ass. There were enough of them in relation to Jericho to justify his name being included.

That WAS how I interpreted it, and I agree overall. I just don't think the majority of posts about Jericho's hardball winning ability were overreactions at all, given his continued lack of form in that particular area. A couple of mine, yes, but certainly not to current Sellar proportions.

And, for what it's worth, I read this thread the first bump around, but didn't have the time to post my reply and forgot about it. Couldn't believe my luck when it popped back up

 

[jo172]

Sure, that would be the case if you interpreted my bump (check the date on it btw) was intended as a reason to never criticize any player. Not the case.

The better reading would suggest that alot can change in football, and some would be better off holding back on their more blatant overreactions (this thread is full of them), as they can bite you on the ass. There were enough of them in relation to Jericho to justify his name being included.

Exactly, all good to write off a player's performances, but to write off a player full stop is basic idiocy when they've achieved a level far greater than we ever will.

Having said that in Jericho's case i'll be glad to make an exception