Social Science Plot holes and inaccuracies

[HSSB]

Back to the Future rules. Who cares if it is not 100% accurate in that respect?

Good post

 

[courtjester]

Yeh, I see your point Dan, you're correct. Unless he is present in 1985, he cannot exist in 2015, following the space-time continuum.

Now, who has seen my flux capacitor?

 

[WinmarToLockett]

How does an alien that has mastered intergalactic travel get trapped in a pantry?

 

[WinmarToLockett]

Avatar.

What exactly is the point of having an avatar? If it's to disguse yourself as a blue thing, why is Sigourney Weaver's avatar walking around the alien planet in a pair of Big W cargo pants? And why even bother with it in the first place because the blue things can tell the difference between their own kind and themselves anyway.

+ Humans have biosuits, and are going to **** up the planet anyway.

The whole film was pointless. And shit.

 

[FootyJunkie]

Avatar.

What exactly is the point of having an avatar? If it's to disguse yourself as a blue thing, why is Sigourney Weaver's avatar walking around the alien planet in a pair of Big W cargo pants? And why even bother with it in the first place because the blue things can tell the difference between their own kind and themselves anyway.

+ Humans have biosuits, and are going to **** up the planet anyway.

The whole film was pointless. And shit.

From a production point of view, the movie was done very well, great effects, did like all the visuals... did see it in 3D.

But as a story... got bored with it... 3 hour movies test me, and my sleepy arse. There was too much hype for it.

 

[PunchFromBhind]

In Robin Hood at the beginning of the movie the English army are laying siege to a French castle so rather than defending themselves the French attack England, and as the English find out there is no talk of using this large army to defend themselves or attack the French

 

[Mr Gor]

Frankly my dear, I love you lets re-marry

Didn't that movie have a war in it?

 

[Falchoon]

Therefore, you can't make the assumption that the 17 year old Marty who leaps forward to 2015 will go back to 1985, because it is not predetermined that he will do that.
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you have to assume he went back because he's there in 2015

 

[HugeJohnson]

My head hurts.

 

[melaniej]

In Harry Potter, if all these magicians can just magic up anything they want, then why the **** do they all have jobs? Why don't they just magic up some money?

One of the 5 exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration.

 

[woopedazz]

One of the 5 exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration.

If they're magicians why don't they just magic that law into oblivion?

 

[Walesy]

you have to assume he went back because he's there in 2015

I prefer the version where marty goes on a future-bender, living the high life as a dare devil. Cause hey, his sheer older selves sheer existence implied that he'll make it back in time at some stage, with all his faculties in tact. Heck at worst case, he could carry around a photo of himself as insurance and constantly check it to make sure he's not about to get himself killed.

 

[sblack]

In Harry Potter, if all these magicians can just magic up anything they want, then why the **** do they all have jobs? Why don't they just magic up some money?

Why do they even need money? Just magic some food, clothes and shit up.

 

[melaniej]

Why do they even need money? Just magic some food, clothes and shit up.

Food is also an exception. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Gamp's_Law_of_Elemental_Transfiguration

 

[woopedazz]

Food is also an exception. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Gamp's_Law_of_Elemental_Transfiguration

Well that doesn't make any sense. How does magic know whether or not pieces of metal are going to be used to aid the transfer of goods and decide that it doesn't like that very much. Then go "that shit over there? That shit's FOOD! Magic the shit out of it!" OR "That's a desk, desks can be turned into a pig and eaten...TURN IT INTO METAL?!?! ARE YOU SERIOUS! Metal is waaaaaaay more complicated than imitating a living organism!"

 

[Schulzenfest]

Why do they even need money? Just magic some food, clothes and shit up

Also this. Magic up an awesome house/car, magic up some clothes, magic up some animals to eat and you're set.

 

[La Di Da]

Would be a pretty poor movie if you could just "magic" everything up.

 

[Freakie]

Would be a pretty poor movie if you could just "magic" everything up.

No it would be awesome. Imagine the epic battles of just "magicing" shit to use as weapons.

 

[woopedazz]

Would be a pretty poor movie if you could just "magic" everything up.

You can magic someone to death in the film, that's a lot more boring than magicking a spear through someones head.

 

[Bouvet_Island]

That idiotic movie Signs is rife with polt stupidities. As most M Night Shamawhatever movies are.

How does an alien that has mastered intergalactic travel get trapped in a pantry? (1)

Why would this intelligent race of aliens go to a planet that is 70% water when it burns their skin? that would be like humans going to the surface of Venus and not caring about the sulphuric acid rain. (2)

there are many more but can't be bothered

Actually both of the points you raised aren't plot holes/stupidities at all.

(1). Human beings haven't quite mastered intergalactic travel, but we have mastered air,land and water travel, and rudimentary space travel. Yet a human can still get trapped in a pantry. I don't follow the logic of "They have spaceships that can travel across space, therefore they should be able to walk though a solid door".

(2) The movie never reveals the Aliens intentions in attacking the Earth, although it does hint at these events having happened a long time ago (and possibly many times, since the little girl appears to have some form of instinct to leave glasses of water everywhere). If you consider the Alien attack to the Alien's version of a hunting expedition ("hey lets go back to that Blue/Green world we used to visit and catch some more of those tasty humanoids"), rather than a full-fledged invasion then the "water is bad for the Aliens" argument disappears, since it is no different Humans who dive under water to go spear fishing (,etc), despite the fact that we can't survive without air for more than 1-2 minutes.



That said, "The Happening" was rubbish.

 

[woopedazz]

^ You've been trapped in a pantry?

As for water; water is present in the atmosphere. Either they are allergic to the air or they ain't allergic to water, they can't be both.

 

[Bouvet_Island]

^ You've been trapped in a pantry?

No, but I don't find it hard to imagine if I was in a pantry and someone locked the door behind me, I'd be trapped - despite the fact the human race has been to the moon.

As for water; water is present in the atmosphere. Either they are allergic to the air or they ain't allergic to water, they can't be both.

Its implied that it is water in liquid form that is dangerous to the aliens. If the movie had've shown the aliens running around in the rain, that WOULD be a plot hole. But every shot of the aliens is in dry weather.

It is similar to aliens watching a movie about earth and claiming a plot hole because we all drive around in vehicles that pump out carbon monoxide, and we should be dead because carbon monoxide is fatal to humans.

 

[woopedazz]

No, but I don't find it hard to imagine if I was in a pantry and someone locked the door behind me, I'd be trapped - despite the fact the human race has been to the moon.



Its implied that it is water in liquid form that is dangerous to the aliens. If the movie had've shown the aliens running around in the rain, that WOULD be a plot hole. But every shot of the aliens is in dry weather.

It is similar to aliens watching a movie about earth and claiming a plot hole because we all drive around in vehicles that pump out carbon monoxide, and we should be dead because carbon monoxide is fatal to humans.

Carbon monoxide isn't an allergy. Also I'm pretty sure I saw some water droplets in that corn field the aliens ran through. People who are allergic to peanuts are allergic to peanuts (solid) and peanut butter (liquid). Case closed.

 

[Bouvet_Island]

Carbon monoxide isn't an allergy.

How do you even know the alien reaction to liquid water is an allergy? From what the movie showed, water to alien flesh is the equivalent of acid to human flesh. AFAIK I'm not "allergic" to Sulfuric Acid - but I still don't want any splashed on my skin...

Also I'm pretty sure I saw some water droplets in that corn field the aliens ran through. People who are allergic to peanuts are allergic to peanuts (solid) and peanut butter (liquid). Case closed.

Not withstanding that flaw in your argument, it's good to know that peanut allergies in humans work exactly the same as water for aliens with a completely unknown physiology.


NB: Water droplets in the corn would be a flaw - if only you had've mentioned it before being shown to be wrong on every other argument you put forward.

 

[woopedazz]

Some interesting points you raise Bouvet_Island. Unfortunately all of them are wrong. I rest my case.