Mega Thread Port Forum 'General AFL Talk' Thread Part 8

[Lagooner]

There's a few openings for reporters in the Seven Adelaide newsroom at the moment but the Story Producer gig really caught my eye...

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Hahaha lost it at the bins!

 

[JUSTWORK]

I think we need a kick up the arse and I hope the club takes this sort of criticism on board.

But I'm not sure what makes us such monumental underachievers. There are clear deficiencies in our playing list and we don't have a genuine star player according to the Vic media. Oh sure they will say Robbie Gray is right up there but when push comes to shove, Devon Smith is apparently a better player.

As far as umpiring whingeing goes, plenty of clubs do it and we probably have more justification than most.

I would think Geelong have been a much bigger underachiever over the past 5 years.

Certainly hope so, there was an article (couldn’t get past the pay wall) that Hinkley defends port amid the criitiscim from that article so who knows, hopefully a kick up the arse and wake up call.

Would be to worked up about the vic media thinking we don’t have a start player, Smith isn’t even in Grays league. Pretty happy with Wingard and Ryder. I’d say there starts, as with Wines even though his kicking can be worrying.

I’d wonder why they complain considering the lack of protection Gray in particular gets.

I do don’t think there is any doubt we are one of the biggest under achievers, given how close we got in 2014 and to not go close to matching that effort I think it is more then fair to say it, especially when you look at the players we have brought to the club since then.

 

[edgie]

I'm doubtful that many media personalities see enough of us/care enough to do an in-depth analysis. Its easier to look at the win-loss column and make a sweeping statement.

Don't disagree there mate

 

[edgie]

I like Max Gawn, but I also enjoy seeing him falter where it matters.

 

[Killer Power]

Good to see some appropriate heat on the club, real shame it comes literally the week Ken finally decided to say something about the umpiring.

Yes and no. Comments seem squarely targeted at the players with no mention of the gameplan which you would think any expert worth their salt would identify as a clear issue in our under performance.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Yes and no. Comments seem squarely targeted at the players with no mention of the gameplan which you would think any expert worth their salt would identify as a clear issue in our under performance.

Roos probably thinks we attack too much

 

[Killer Power]

Certainly hope so, there was an article (couldn’t get past the pay wall) that Hinkley defends port amid the criitiscim from that article so who knows, hopefully a kick up the arse and wake up call.

Would be to worked up about the vic media thinking we don’t have a start player, Smith isn’t even in Grays league. Pretty happy with Wingard and Ryder. I’d say there starts, as with Wines even though his kicking can be worrying.

I’d wonder why they complain considering the lack of protection Gray in particular gets.

I do don’t think there is any doubt we are one of the biggest under achievers, given how close we got in 2014 and to not go close to matching that effort I think it is more then fair to say it, especially when you look at the players we have brought to the club since then.

That Jonas guy goes ok....

 

[JUSTWORK]

That Jonas guy goes ok....

Would have been AA this year if not for injury, recon he’s unfortunately missed too many games.

 

[Waspy79]

Would have been AA this year if not for injury, recon he’s unfortunately missed too many games.

Watch Sicily's name closely - will have missed 8 of 22 games.

 

[Alberton Proud]

Watch Sicily's name closely - will have missed 8 of 22 games.

LOCK

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

The AFL is likely to recommend the introduction of the proposed "six-six-six" format at centre bounces for the 2019 season when the league’s Competition Committee gathers for a crucial meeting on Wednesday.

Under the proposal – the biggest change to centre bounces since the introduction of the centre square – each team would be forced to have six players inside of the 50 metre arcs at both ends. The centre square set-ups would remain at four players per side, with two per team – wingers, effectively – outside the square and between the arcs.

Under the likely recommendation, which has been developed by the AFL’s game analysis group and trialled by clubs, those two "wingers" could be stationed anywhere, including on the back of the centre square, giving the coaches some flexibility for tactical placements.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...o-recommend-on-wednesday-20180724-p4zt8z.html

 

[Alberton Proud]

The AFL is likely to recommend the introduction of the proposed "six-six-six" format at centre bounces for the 2019 season when the league’s Competition Committee gathers for a crucial meeting on Wednesday.

Under the proposal – the biggest change to centre bounces since the introduction of the centre square – each team would be forced to have six players inside of the 50 metre arcs at both ends. The centre square set-ups would remain at four players per side, with two per team – wingers, effectively – outside the square and between the arcs.

Under the likely recommendation, which has been developed by the AFL’s game analysis group and trialled by clubs, those two "wingers" could be stationed anywhere, including on the back of the centre square, giving the coaches some flexibility for tactical placements.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...o-recommend-on-wednesday-20180724-p4zt8z.html

Don't see how this will change anything

Faster ball ups without Ruck Nominations would be 10 x more effective at the exact time most of the congestion occurs

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

The AFL is likely to recommend the introduction of the proposed "six-six-six" format at centre bounces for the 2019 season when the league’s Competition Committee gathers for a crucial meeting on Wednesday.

Under the proposal – the biggest change to centre bounces since the introduction of the centre square – each team would be forced to have six players inside of the 50 metre arcs at both ends. The centre square set-ups would remain at four players per side, with two per team – wingers, effectively – outside the square and between the arcs.

Under the likely recommendation, which has been developed by the AFL’s game analysis group and trialled by clubs, those two "wingers" could be stationed anywhere, including on the back of the centre square, giving the coaches some flexibility for tactical placements.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...o-recommend-on-wednesday-20180724-p4zt8z.html

They might as well go the whole 9 yards and say this set up has to occur if there is a second, third etc bounce down/ball up inside the square, ie stay in those "zones" until the ball has exited the square. If the ball goes out say by a metre and then a quick little kick or handball and the ball is back inside the square then bad luck, old rules apply and no zone stuff.

Probably 1/4 to 1/3 of centre square bounce downs to re-start the game result in a secondary bounce down/ball up as the ball still is inside or just outside the centre circle and plenty of times there is a third bounce down/ball up inside the square.

 

[PAFC66]

Have absolutely no problem with people in Melbourne saying we've underachieved.. not sure how anyone could argue that? We have stars on every line and sides like Richmond and Dogs win a flag with 1-3 agraders and the rest plodders before us.. who would of thought that after 2014?

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Have absolutely no problem with people in Melbourne saying we've underachieved.. not sure how anyone could argue that? We have stars on every line and sides like Richmond and Dogs win a flag with 1-3 agraders and the rest plodders before us.. who would of thought that after 2014?

Anyone who thinks we haven't underachieved needs to up the meds

 

[PAFC66]

Anyone who thinks we haven't underachieved needs to up the meds

I know it's hard to take it from someone like Lyon and money bags Roos because they're campaigners but they're only saying literally the bleeding obvious. In terms of whinging for frees I reckon that's just a symptom of desperation and frustration of absolutely dominating periods of the game without result , we do it but so do most other sides . Our finals campaign was cut short last year from a admitted incorrect free kick so I'm sure there's a lot of anger there still as well.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Have absolutely no problem with people in Melbourne saying we've underachieved.. not sure how anyone could argue that? We have stars on every line and sides like Richmond and Dogs win a flag with 1-3 agraders and the rest plodders before us.. who would of thought that after 2014?

We dont have that many stars - otherwise we wouldnt have under achieved.

Stars deliver in the big moments against the best oppo. We dont have more than 2 or 3 of them.

 

[PAFC66]

We dont have that many stars - otherwise we wouldnt have under achieved.

Stars deliver in the big moments against the best oppo. We dont have more than 2 or 3 of them.

We've seen moments when our better players have delivered though and we have enough quality there for success. The ingredients are there and more so than most other sides. Our list is significantly better than the side in 2014.. we just have coaches that are slow on the uptake, discarded from previous clubs as well as poor list management.

 

[manureid]

All supporters tend to overate players as well. I reckon we 'think' on paper some of our players are better than what they are. After 3 years of underachieving I think they are what they show.

 

[edgie]

Have absolutely no problem with people in Melbourne saying we've underachieved.. not sure how anyone could argue that? We have stars on every line and sides like Richmond and Dogs win a flag with 1-3 agraders and the rest plodders before us.. who would of thought that after 2014?

Mate, the dogs was a fix. Not an example we should compare ourselves to.

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[PAFC66]

We dont have that many stars - otherwise we wouldnt have under achieved.

Stars deliver in the big moments against the best oppo. We dont have more than 2 or 3 of them.

We've seen Wingard, Wines, Dixon, Jonas, Ryder, Polec, Motlop, Gray, Ebert in the earlier days as well as Boak perform at an elite standard in different periods of their careers.. the problem is the second tier of this group that have completely stagnated or gone backwards as well as the trust in players like Amon, S.Gray, Pittard, Thomas, Neade at times/watts. It's all coaching. This was Richmond's issue for a while but they managed to perfect a game plan that every single player on that list, not just their a-graders (which isn't a lot) is in sync with and all of the sudden their skills dramatically improve. Our skills are shit because the majority of our side is confused. Literally every year since the end of 2015 they've been asked to play a different way.

 

[Waspy79]

Don't see how this will change anything

Faster ball ups without Ruck Nominations would be 10 x more effective at the exact time most of the congestion occurs

Coaches trying to protect a one goal lead in the dying moments will have their hands tied somewhat at the centre bounce... can picture the farcial scenes as 6 forwards do the 100 metre sprint into defence.

Ridiculous and unnecessary rule change.

 

[PAFC66]

Mate, the dogs was a fix. Not an example we should compare ourselves to.

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Nah they took their chances. Took a few risks and they paid off.

 

[PAFC66]

Massive excuse but I reckon we miss the form of Hartlett before he went down.

 

[edgie]

Nah they took their chances. Took a few risks and they paid off.

Could not disagree more

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