Post siren tragics

[Foxtrot]

In an effort to keep the theme, add to my swelling post count and give me something to do after a few wines - I present the list of post siren tragics.

These fellows were given the unenviable task of winning a game for the side at the death and found the pressure a bit daunting.

Steve Kernahan vs Bombers 1993.

Goal to win, point to draw. OOps.

Simon Beasley vs Bears 1998?.

Difficult angle. Man on mark has guy on shoulders. Fans invading ground. But it was against the Bears.

Peter Sumich vs Pies 1990
Again a tricky shot but the miss could have contributed to the Pies breaking their premiership drought. IDIOT!!

Robert Scott vs Swans 199?

Close but no dice.

Any others? I'm sure there's a few...

 

[wagstaff]

Originally posted by Foxtrot


Steve Kernahan vs Bombers 1993.

Goal to win, point to draw. OOps.

Simon Beasley vs Bears 1998?.

Difficult angle. Man on mark has guy on shoulders. Fans invading ground. But it was against the Bears.

Peter Sumich vs Pies 1990
Again a tricky shot but the miss could have contributed to the Pies breaking their premiership drought. IDIOT!!

Robert Scott vs Swans 199?

Steve Kernahan's was a point to win the game, as the scores were tied. Whether that makes it more shocking a miss is up for debate.


Sumich usually used the banana on those type of kicks but played safe and went for the drop punt. A fateful decision.

Scott's was in 1988, hit the post and there were questions asked after the game about the fact that the Swans players were shaking the post and whether that should've been allowed.

As for others, there was Stephen Clark's shot for Melbourne at Windy Hill against Essendon in 1991 to draw the game from 55 metres out. It was a good effort at a torp, but it had too much height and dropped just short, with the Essendon fans making sure it didn't reach it.

 

[DaveW]

Matthew Lloyd v Footscray 2002

Bombers were a point behind when the siren went. From the left pocket (I think), but not the most difficult angle, scored only a behind to tie the game.

 

[Dan26]

Oops, I posted this is the other thread by mistake, but it belongs here.

As an Essendon fan it's always fun to bag Kernahan for his blunder in '93, but the real story that defiend him as a champion came the next week.

Carlton, (still winless) was playing Hawthorn on Easter Monday at a jam-packed Optus Oval, Kerhanan, of course having kicked out on the full after the siren the week before. Late in the game against the Hawks (and Im talking about the 32 minute mark here) he had the ball outside 50. Given the events a week earlier the pressure on him was immense. He stepped up and drilled it straight through the centre, and the Blues won by a couple of points.

Sticks' was an absolute champion. It is an insult to him, that Brereton was labelled as his equal during that era. Sticks' was the best CHF by a mile, in leadership, ability and integrity.

 

[DaveW]

Re: Re: Post siren tragics

Originally posted by wagstaff
Steve Kernahan's was a point to win the game, as the scores were tied. Whether that makes it more shocking a miss is up for debate.

You're right. I remember channel seven showing another game that day then switching over to Essendon-Carlton match which was in the balance with minutes remaining. That turned out to be brilliant broadcasting decision as the match concluded with Kernahan lining up for goal with the scores tied. Like Tony Lockett three and a half years later any score would do, but he didn't score at all.

 

[Dan26]

Re: Re: Post siren tragics

Originally posted by wagstaff


As for others, there was Stephen Clark's shot for Melbourne at Windy Hill against Essendon in 1991 to draw the game from 55 metres out. It was a good effort at a torp, but it had too much height and dropped just short, with the Essendon fans making sure it didn't reach it.

Ha. If you look closely, you can see me on the ground near where the ball landed!

 

[wagstaff]

Re: Re: Re: Post siren tragics

Originally posted by DaveW
You're right. I remember channel seven showing another game that day then switching over to Essendon-Carlton match which was in the balance with minutes remaining. That turned out to be brilliant broadcasting decision as the match concluded with Kernahan lining up for goal with the scores tied. Like Tony Lockett three and a half years later any score would do, but he didn't score at all.

He said later that the mistake he made was that he stopped his inital run-up because the siren had gone; he should've gone ahead and just went through with the kick. As it was he went back and made an absoulte hash of it.

It's a great last quarter, and both sides had their chances to win it - Carlton were three goals up late in the last quarter before Essendon came from nowhere to lead by 7 points, and they looked to have the match won.

However, an errant Derek Kickett handball gave Carlton a sniff and Kernhan goaled to tie the game.

Unfortunately, he wasn't able to finish it off....

 

[wagstaff]

Re: Re: Re: Post siren tragics

Originally posted by Dan26
Ha. If you look closely, you can see me on the ground near where the ball landed!

You're David Flood?

 

[harry_hawka]

David King- 1994 Elimination Final against the Hawks.

Was about 60m out and needed to score to win the game.. as it turned out the Kangas won in extra time anyway.

 

[wagstaff]

Flash-in-the-pan Carlton forward Warren Ralph had a tight but gettable shot after the siren at Waverly in 1984 against Collingwood to draw the match.

It was given a point, although the replay suggested it was a line-ball thing.

 

[Pedro]

Anthony Rocca 2002 V Port. Kicked after the siren from abou 35 out to tie the match. Perhaps he should have kicked from 60!!

Still can't believe Sumich missed in that 1990 final. Still have a chuckle every time I see it

 

[DaveW]

Originally posted by Pedro
Anthony Rocca 2002 V Port. Kicked after the siren from abou 35 out to tie the match. Perhaps he should have kicked from 60!!

That was late in the game not after the siren. Collingwood were 6 points down and that kick put them 5 points down. I recall McGuire on the channel nine telecast shouting that Collingwood could now win or something like that.

 

[Dan26]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Post siren tragics

Originally posted by wagstaff
You're David Flood?

The ball came off a pack of players, and the result therefore concluded (Salmon was somewhere in the vicinity IIRC), with spectators everywhere, one of whom was yours truly!

 

[TheBloods]

All-time classic - Blight in '77(or'78?) missed from about 20m out against Hawthorn. Down a point he had been pushed in the back and it had gone through for a behind to level scores. He chose to take the shot and proceeded to kick it out on the full. Was an exceptionally muddy day at Princes Park and this was after he had dobbed the 70m goal after the siren to beat Carlton, also at Princes Park.

 

[Chris_Judd]

There was the final between Melbourne and Hawthorn in 1986 I think? the one where Buckanara kicked after the siren to win it...... well just before that... a Melbourne player ran into an open goal... and from about 2 metres out completely shanked it and went through for a point.... can't remember his name... it was either Eishold... or Ricky someone... but I remember at the time if he had kicked that Melbourne were in the GF.

 

[mel 40]

Originally posted by DaveW
Matthew Lloyd v Footscray 2002

Bombers were a point behind when the siren went. From the left pocket (I think), but not the most difficult angle, scored only a behind to tie the game.

It couldnt have been that difficult, cause the next week young bulldog daniel cross had a set shot fron the same angle and put it straigh through for a goal.
although crossy didnt have as much pressure on him, but he still kicked it..

 

[Foxtrot]

Originally posted by Chris_Judd
There was the final between Melbourne and Hawthorn in 1986 I think? the one where Buckanara kicked after the siren to win it...... well just before that... a Melbourne player ran into an open goal... and from about 2 metres out completely shanked it and went through for a point.... can't remember his name... it was either Eishold... or Ricky someone... but I remember at the time if he had kicked that Melbourne were in the GF.

Yeah - Simon Eishold was the culprit IIRC - The same prelim (87) Buckenara kicked the goal after the siren. Ricky Jackson was the other fella you are thinking of.

It was an absolute sitter but technically not an after the siren job so he is spared.

 

[LordLucifer]

Originally posted by wagstaff
Flash-in-the-pan Carlton forward Warren Ralph had a tight but gettable shot after the siren at Waverly in 1984 against Collingwood to draw the match.

It was given a point, although the replay suggested it was a line-ball thing.

The Channel Seven camera was nearly directly behind the kick and it never deviated from it's line, I reckon it was a goal for sure. Whilst Ralph will not be remembered as one of the greatest full forwards to play the game, he will be remembered by me as being one of the best kicks for goal I have ever seen. He was an incredibly accurate kick over really long distances, the only problem was that he had to get it the ball in the first place.

 

[Darky]

Originally posted by TheSheik
The Channel Seven camera was nearly directly behind the kick and it never deviated from it's line, I reckon it was a goal for sure. Whilst Ralph will not be remembered as one of the greatest full forwards to play the game, he will be remembered by me as being one of the best kicks for goal I have ever seen. He was an incredibly accurate kick over really long distances, the only problem was that he had to get it the ball in the first place.

I remember the bastard kicking 9 against North on debut!

 

[wagstaff]

Originally posted by TheSheik
The Channel Seven camera was nearly directly behind the kick and it never deviated from it's line, I reckon it was a goal for sure.

It wasn't even close to being directly behind the kick (it was closer to side-on), there was no way known you could tell definitively from that angle whether it was a goal or not.

Unless Channel 2 who covered the games back in those days had a different and better angle on the kick.

 

[OldLion]

Final Pies v Eagles at Waverley. Open goal beckons and Eagle misses with running shot on the siren. Can't remember who.

A Rocca v Port at their place last year. Missed after siren.

 

[Harvey to Hayes]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
All-time classic - Blight in '77(or'78?) missed from about 20m out against Hawthorn. Down a point he had been pushed in the back and it had gone through for a behind to level scores. He chose to take the shot and proceeded to kick it out on the full. Was an exceptionally muddy day at Princes Park and this was after he had dobbed the 70m goal after the siren to beat Carlton, also at Princes Park.

Beat me to it, this definitely takes the cake for worst after the siren stuff up.......

 

[wagstaff]

Originally posted by OldLion
Final Pies v Eagles at Waverley. Open goal beckons and Eagle misses with running shot on the siren. Can't remember who.

Murray Wrenstead, who missed just a few seconds before the siren. Unfairly maligned for that miss in my view, as it was the Melbourne player who came in front of his path that forced his shot to be directed left of the goals.

 

[Britney Spears]

Originally posted by Dan26
Sticks' was an absolute champion. It is an insult to him, that Brereton was labelled as his equal during that era. Sticks' was the best CHF by a mile, in leadership, ability and integrity.

You're like a dog with a bone aren't you Dan? You were spanked back then on this subject, and you'll be spanked again, so give it a rest.

 

[GOALden Hawk]

Originally posted by Foxtrot
Yeah - Simon Eishold was the culprit IIRC - The same prelim (87) Buckenara kicked the goal after the siren. Ricky Jackson was the other fella you are thinking of.

It was an absolute sitter but technically not an after the siren job so he is spared.

He shouldn't be spared - it was perhaps the worst set shot for goal I've ever seen. He almost kicks it out on the full despite been only 5 metres out! Tony Campbell missed a running shot from 40 metres out a minute later. There were 9 seconds on the clock when the ball was kicked in.