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Ticky was 100% spot on. I don't hate GC at all, it was purely in reference to GC being a potential competitor re father/son.
Personally, I dislike them because they are wasting the AFL's money. The GC has always been a black hole for sport, and the AFL should cut their losses and try something different.
 
Personally, I dislike them because they are wasting the AFL's money. The GC has always been a black hole for sport, and the AFL should cut their losses and try something different.
I don't disagree with you there, they have been a costly 'investment' so far and haven't yet returned on that investment on or off the field.
 
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Personally, I dislike them because they are wasting the AFL's money. The GC has always been a black hole for sport, and the AFL should cut their losses and try something different.
St Scum over the last 10 years have been pumped up more money wise than them and then wasted money on Seaford then got the state gov. to put in millions at Moorabbin , absolute basked case .
For the good of the game Gold Coast being a success is crucial to the national game going forward
 
With the news of Buddy's retirement it got me thinking about a question I'd like to pose to folks on here...

Which Swans player's departure (either by trade or retirement) do you think we have been impacted by/struggled to recover from the most?

For mine it has to be Nick Malceski. I don't think we realised how much we relied upon someone providing that penetration and ability to slice open a team's set up with just one kick until Malceski was gone. It really wasn't until 2021 when we started to see a bit of it from Dawson, Blakey, and subsequently McInerney, Florent and last year Fox that we finally picked back up in a rebounding sense.

I'd also throw in Hanners. I don't think JPK became any less of a player once he lost his partner in crime, but I think he became a little less effective once he lost his partner in crime. That one-two punch of "JPK to Hanners" that became so synonymous with our successful era was suddenly gone. IMO it's not a coincidence that Hanners last good year in 2017 was also the last year we had a great midfield.
I’m late to this party but for me Mumford by a mile. Not just because we have struggled for rucks since, but also for that big unit enforcer role. We were physically smashed in 2014 GF and we needed him. Would Mills have been targeted v Carlton a few years ago if big Mummy was there? And if they did Mumford would have gone straight in.
 
Personally, I dislike them because they are wasting the AFL's money. The GC has always been a black hole for sport, and the AFL should cut their losses and try something different.
Yep, for me it's the self-inflicted wounds. It's the giving pick 7 & Jack Bowes to Geelong for a future 3rd round pick. It's the sacking Guy McKenna after getting them to their highest ever ladder position. It's the trading pick 2 for Lachie Weller at the eleventh hour of the trade period. It's the Karmichael Hunt deal. And so on...

Why root for a club to receive help when they can't even help themselves?
 
Yep, for me it's the self-inflicted wounds. It's the giving pick 7 & Jack Bowes to Geelong for a future 3rd round pick. It's the sacking Guy McKenna after getting them to their highest ever ladder position. It's the trading pick 2 for Lachie Weller at the eleventh hour of the trade period. It's the Karmichael Hunt deal. And so on...

Why root for a club to receive help when they can't even help themselves?
It's having an unintended negative impact on the swans as well. GC continue getting high draft picks, losing developed stars to Victorian clubs, handing over high picks to other clubs and continuing to finish lower than us, hence pushing us a pick back hypothetically, and all of the benefits from their ineptitude is being syphoned off by Victorian clubs. Making their lists stronger at our expense.

We need to figure out how to get in on some of that action.
 
It's having an unintended negative impact on the swans as well. GC continue getting high draft picks, losing developed stars to Victorian clubs, handing over high picks to other clubs and continuing to finish lower than us, hence pushing us a pick back hypothetically, and all of the benefits from their ineptitude is being syphoned off by Victorian clubs. Making their lists stronger at our expense.

We need to figure out how to get in on some of that action.
You are in overdrive with this stuff , it's a national comp
 
This is a pretty decent list of players developed by GC who ended up on other lists.

Josh Caddy
Charlie Dixon
Dion Prestia
Steven May
Tom Lynch
Jaeger O'meara
Izak Rankine

I will concede, we have benefited from GC. They drafted ruck jesus, although, he passed through a few sets of hands before landing at the swans.
 
This is a pretty decent list of players developed by GC who ended up on other lists.

Josh Caddy
Charlie Dixon
Dion Prestia
Steven May
Tom Lynch
Jaeger O'meara
Izak Rankine

I will concede, we have benefited from GC. They drafted ruck jesus, although, he passed through a few sets of hands before landing at the swans.
Do a list of GWS THAT'S DAMING
 

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Do a list of GWS THAT'S DAMING
GWS are just as much a part of the problem I'm taking about. Both clubs have been feeder clubs (primarily for Victoria). All they do is draft and develop players who go to clubs other than the Swans - proving my point.

This list below was done prior to the 2021 draft period. Additional names are Jeremy Finlayson, Bobby Hill, Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.

Absolutely damning and puts us at a further disadvantage.

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GWS are just as much a part of the problem I'm taking about. Both clubs have been feeder clubs (primarily for Victoria). All they do is draft and develop players who go to clubs other than the Swans - proving my point.

This list below was done prior to the 2021 draft period. Additional names are Jeremy Finlayson, Bobby Hill, Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.

Absolutely damning and puts us at a further disadvantage.

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I think you made a mistake.
That's Carlton's reserves.
 

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