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[*PAF]

Renouf for Redden is the best call for this game but at the end of the day if Ken Hinkley drops someone for Casissi or Gray its for a reason, he obviously knows something we dont, no point getting frustrated and angry just trust that Ken will put the right team on the field for the game

Nope, two rucks is the way to go. There is no need to learn from your own mistakes, it is much easier to learn from other people's mistakes and we have made that mistake before.

 

[ploppy]

I still dont get how 2 rucks is so much of an advantage against 1 ruck..only 1 can ruck at a time cant they or are we going to actually have our 2 guys in against jacobs at the same time. Jacobs is just a man..

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

I still dont get how 2 rucks is so much of an advantage against 1 ruck..only 1 can ruck at a time cant they or are we going to actually have our 2 guys in against jacobs at the same time. Jacobs is just a man..

goes in with 1 ruck, say lobbe, lobbe has a bad day and gets destroyed again. practically losing the game because of using 1 ruckman.
2 ruck, can have more breaks, thus being able to run out the whole game, more likly of one havinga good day.
how can you not see the advantages

 

[Portmanteau]

Additionally, Renouf is a bit more explosive than both Lobbe and Redden. That is more likely to wear down an opposition ruckman, making the other's job easier.

 

[*PAF]

Plus Redden can jump body on body and Lobbe is better than Jacobs around the ground.
Fresh ruckman to jump against plus Lobbe running Jacobs around making him tired.

EDIT: For mine if Renouf is fit I would swap him for Redden.

EDIT2: That will also mean that Trengove and Westhoff can play in their best positions for the whole game and thus making them worry about us rather than the other way around.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Additionally, Renouf is a bit more explosive than both Lobbe and Redden. That is more likely to wear down an opposition ruckman, making the other's job easier.

Is 'explosive' a euphemism for 'likely to punch someone'?

 

[Macca19]

I still dont get how 2 rucks is so much of an advantage against 1 ruck..only 1 can ruck at a time cant they or are we going to actually have our 2 guys in against jacobs at the same time. Jacobs is just a man..

I'd be happy to go in with just Redden, or just Renouf. Lobbe however is a different story.

 

[ploppy]

Is 'explosive' a euphemism for 'likely to punch someone'?

I prefer this technique..if our ruckman is losing the next centre bounce he just has to run and stick his knee rich in to jacobs ribs/thigh/balls..bingo your winning the ruck again..

 

[kaysee]

I will be absolutely livid if we go into yet another Showdown with just one ruckman again. Especially after the farce that we put up with last time Lobbe was our sole ruck against Jacobs.

Hopefully Renouf comes in and thats the only change.

Wholeheartedly agree. Both times last year we went with 1 ruck (1st Renouf and then Lobbe), so we could have the extra midfield rotation, because our midfield was crap. Then we tried relieving with Westhoff or Trengove, thus robbing our forward/defence.

This year our current midfield is a lot more potent: development of Broadbent, acquiring Monfries, Hartlett is fitter/stronger, Wingard is playing in there more, Cornes is back to his AA form, Wines an instant beast, Mitchell gut runner, Neade on occassions and a developed P Stewart if required. We don't need the extra mid to make up for the previous lack of unfit effort. But we do need a 2nd ruck without robbing our forward/defence of a KPP.

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Separately, I like the Crows posting here (and I there) in a lead up to a game. It gets some cross team chatter going and doesn't need to get silly... that is what the Bay is for (and why I post so much immature crap there). I also don't really give a shit what "there saying over on their board" or worry to much when they comment similar about us... we're a bunch of mates talking footy, not a bunch of gossipy/bitchy girls sitting in their "circles" at school/uni/office bitching about the other girls within eyesight. Ah well just the way I see it.

 

[Relativity]

Has Sloane ever had a tag?

Going by cow supporter speak "Sloaneyo" would be my guess.

 

[Relativity]

We beat Freo in the finals, so your opinion is wrong.

Weren't you guys convicted of cheating last year? Do those games still count?

 

[Schulzenfest]

I agree with that but Renouf offers nothing around the ground. Does not take many marks and you can't play him up forward.

He doesn't have to to be a better option than Redden this week. Sorry to go all Primus on everyone, but there's no way that we're going to win the ruck battle this week against Jacobs. The best thing for the team was to minimize the damage that Jacobs can do. Renouf is better at winning hitouts than either of Redden or Lobbe, so he's the one to come in. Every tap Renouf gets is one less chance for Jacobs to spoonfeed a Crows midfield which has had it too easy for too long.

I think a few people are making the mistake of confusing Redden's potential for Redden's current output. One day Redden will be a beast of a ruckman, and he's already shown that he's becoming a very good hitout to advantage ruckman (much like Jacobs, coincidentally). But when it comes to pure hitout numbers, he's barely better than Lobbe. And this week, we need somebody to win hitouts and lots of them, because every hitout we get is a hitout that Jacobs doesn't get.

 

[FishingRick04]

Is 'explosive' a euphemism for 'likely to punch someone'?

He came over with an aggressive reputation I hope he shows it!

 

[*PAF]

If you guys take Lobbe and Renouf into the game to combat Jacobs, that effectively leaves you with one less 6 footer to run through the midfield and around the stoppages. Is that going to work when it rains?

Yes.

 

[Mighty Chinook]

You have two key forwards and one ruckman, we have two ruckmen and one key forward. We have the same amount of talls as you, they're just distributed differently.

Did Westhoff get dropped?

 

[Schulzenfest]

Did Westhoff get dropped?

Westhoff isn't a key forward, he's a very tall wingman. He's racked up more kilometres than any other player on our list so far this year.

No issues with his running power if it gets wet. He's actually perfect for it, he has the athleticism of a midfielder while retaining the marking ability of a decent KPP.

 

[Byron!!!]

Did Westhoff get dropped?

Westhoff isn't a key forward. HE IS EVERYTHING.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Did Westhoff get dropped?

wow you really have no idea

 

[Canoogs]

Would like to win this one, but not putting much stock in it either way. We're a young, inexperienced side, who are finally headed on the right track. We're going to win some games this year, but we'll probably lose more than we win. If we play well and get done by a better side, I'll be okay with that.

Worried about Jacobs giving first use to the Crows midfield. Can see tackling pressure forcing some turnovers in tight, but I think we're looking at getting pantsed in clearances again this week. What that translates to in terms of scores is more about which Crows team shows up on the day.

In terms of respect amongst the league, we win this, and most people will just decide that we get up for Showdowns. Gives me the irrits!

 

[Del80659]

I still dont get how 2 rucks is so much of an advantage against 1 ruck..only 1 can ruck at a time cant they or are we going to actually have our 2 guys in against jacobs at the same time. Jacobs is just a man..

think about it. a team going in with one ruck and one makeshift backup ruck and a team going in with two rucks. we might seem like we have too many talls but westhoff isn't a tall, he's the hoff.

we won't be slower and "have less run" just because we have one extra tall guy.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Ha I presupposed your response with my question, assuming that Westhoff was seen as a Buddy Franklin-type on this board. Carry on.

Ohohohoho, you so smart. Because there is absolutely no middle ground between 'slow plodder' and 'Buddy Franklin'.

You realize that you just admitted to intentionally trolling another team's board, right?

 

[ploppy]

think about it. a team going in with one ruck and one makeshift backup ruck and a team going in with two rucks. we might seem like we have too many talls but westhoff isn't a tall, he's the hoff.

we won't be slower and "have less run" just because we have one extra tall guy.

yeah but if both our rucks lose to jacobs we might as well have just 1 losing to jacobs..i prefer redden tbh he never gets pushed around and is the same size as jacobs..the only reason you would lose the ruck is you are smaller or have no cohonies redden is neither.

 

[Trewth]

Ohohohoho, you so smart. Because there is absolutely no middle ground between 'slow plodder' and 'Buddy Franklin'.

You realize that you just admitted to intentionally trolling another team's board, right?

That's his only intent. I thought that was obvious.

 

[DonDynamite]

yeah but if both our rucks lose to jacobs we might as well have just 1 losing to jacobs..i prefer redden tbh he never gets pushed around and is the same size as jacobs..the only reason you would lose the ruck is you are smaller or have no cohonies redden is neither.

Or if the other ruckman plays a better game?

 

[ploppy]

Or if the other ruckman plays a better game?

lets be honest apart from the taps neither ruckman will have much impact. just make a contest at the ruck and win at least %50 of the taps is all we ask..the rest of the game they are like tall witches hats