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[Killer Power]

I don't like some of the negativity coming from this thread. We can beat them, sure its not guaranteed but no game is.

Its 50-50 as is every showdown, but I want to see us smash them if they make too many mistakes, and keep it even if they don't. Mistake-free, high pressure football can take you very far in this modern game. Sydney showed that to everyone last year, and I want our team to aim for that kind of play.

Negativity? Try realism. Show me a single person saying we can't win, just that they feel some are getting ahead of themselves off of the back of 2 good games. Which is pretty much what you then go on to say in your second sentence...., **scratches head**

 

[Chrizzt]

I suppose Sloane will not be so blessed with 'proper coaching, development and culture' over the next couple of years.
Sloane's disposal efficiency last year was 70.6% compared to Hartlett's which was 70.2%. Oh, but Hartlett was carrying an injury last year

Refer to my earlier post comparing the stats of Hammer and Sloane. Sloane did not ever cop a hard tag like Hammer did, so the fact you are saying "he can't deal with a tag" is just offering up the fact that Hammer is more of a threat than Sloane. We were not a very good side last year, our work rate for the second half of the year was terrible, and as such it is harder to find targets to hit. The crows were playing better football, and as such all Crows players stats get a boost compared to Port's. I will eat the world's supply of hats if Sloane becomes a better player than Hartlett. The only thing holding back hammer so far is injury concerns, anyone who knows anything about football will say that Hartlett is the more talented player. Sloane is a good, hard working midfielder. Heck, I'd take him at Port at the moment, but he certainly has a much lower ceiling.

 

[Port85]

Port midfield goood. Crows midfield bad.

Am I doing this rite?

 

[BUTTON 92]

. Name another time he's been tagged out of a game.

Against sewell in round11 last year and Jackson round 23. He also had numerous quiet games last year. He will be a star no doubt. But he hasn't got much consistency yet.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Against sewell in round11 last year and Jackson round 23. He also had numerous quiet games last year. He will be a star no doubt. But he hasn't got much consistency yet.

Yeah that game. I wasn't too pleased with him that game

 

[Macca19]

I suppose Sloane will not be so blessed with 'proper coaching, development and culture' over the next couple of years.
Sloane's disposal efficiency last year was 70.6% compared to Hartlett's which was 70.2%. Oh, but Hartlett was carrying an injury last year

Be very careful. This isnt bay 13 here.

Hartlett has a much higher ceiling than Sloane. Sloane however, will most likely reach his ceiling compared to Hartlett, at this stage.

 

[RangaInTeal]

Drafting over the last five years, apart from Jacobs, who we all questioned when we selected him, who else has been as big of a bust as Lance Angwin, James Sellar, Phil Davis...

Sure we took Micheal Stevens who wasn't the greatest selection, and Jacobs, but they are the only two early draft picks we have genuinely screwed.

At the end of the day, you're in the port forum, add insight and add to he conversation, but don't abuse posters here and come in with your Crows glasses on!

 

[RangaInTeal]

Also, Crows related, I can't believe they are playing Jenkins over Lewis Johnstone, that boy CAN kick goals!

 

[Macca19]

Johnston looks like a total fish at AFL level. Its no wonder they got him on the cheap

 

[Mighty Chinook]

Drafting over the last five years, apart from Jacobs, who we all questioned when we selected him, who else has been as big of a bust as Lance Angwin, James Sellar, Phil Davis...

Sure we took Micheal Stevens who wasn't the greatest selection, and Jacobs, but they are the only two early draft picks we have genuinely screwed.

At the end of the day, you're in the port forum, add insight and add to he conversation, but don't abuse posters here and come in with your Crows glasses on!

Angwin was 2000, Sellar in 2006, and Phil Davis walked out as we know but the compo pick was given to GWS in the minidraft for Brad Crouch who was rated as a top 5 draft pick for the 2012 class, and rated higher than Ollie Wines I might add.

If we're going to look back at the early 2000s onwards, would you care to explain Barry Brooks, Troy Chaplin, Adam Thompson, Andrew Moore, etc?

 

[RangaInTeal]

Angwin was 2000, Sellar in 2006, and Phil Davis walked out as we know but the compo pick was given to GWS in the minidraft for Brad Crouch who was rated as a top 5 draft pick for the 2012 class, and rated higher than Ollie Wines I might add.

If we're going to look back at the early 2000s onwards, would you care to explain Barry Brooks, Troy Chaplin, Adam Thompson, Andrew Moore, etc?

Barry Brooks here for one year, then we traded him to a desperate St.Kilda, I thought the kid had some potential. Troy Chaplin a top three club Best and Fairest, played in a grand final and played 100 games for us, if that's a failed career your nuts, Adam Thompson suffered from Choco's idea of where the game was heading rather than football being football, but your right he is a failure, Andrew Moore has played almost 50 games now and is 22? Yeah, I am thinking your delusional...

But the compo pick for Crouch... You put Moore in your failed Port recruits then point out the fact Crouch was apparently better than Wines, you can't have it both ways brother, WINES HAS DELIVERED! Crouch, were waiting for...

 

[Hong-Kong Phooey]

Yaaaawn, lets just play the game

 

[RangaInTeal]

Another subtle troll by including Andrew Moore in that list. Please just red card this dick.

Don't red card him, let him give us more ammo to point and laugh at the Crows supporters!

 

[FishingRick04]

If we're going to look back at the early 2000s onwards, would you care to explain Barry Brooks, Troy Chaplin, Adam Thompson, Andrew Moore, etc?

Didn't Barry Brooks net us D Wakelin? Not our fault St Kilda couldn't develop him.
Chaplin isn't a spud, he isn't CHB of the century either but 150 game AFL player isn't a draft bust.
Thompson not sure how to categorise him and Andrew Moore is still to early, let's wait until the end of this year. Are you prepared to write Brodie Martin off as a spud?

 

[Mighty Chinook]

Andrew Moore is still to early, let's wait until the end of this year. Are you prepared to write Brodie Martin off as a spud?

As Brodie martin was pick 52 on the rookie draft and Moore was a top 10 pick, I don't think the comparison is relevant!

 

[BUTTON 92]

WINES HAS DELIVERED! Crouch, were waiting for...

Wines has played 2 games which were both decent. Crouch has played one game which was decent. Neither have delivered as such but both look like future jets.

 

[FishingRick04]

As Brodie martin was pick 52 on the rookie draft and Moore was a top 10 pick, I don't think the comparison is relevant!

Both young players, who show potential I believe it is. Again, I don't think you can write Moore off as a draft bust just yet, he's in his 3rd year in the system, who suffered reoccurring groin injuries for a significant portion of his time in the system.

Hunt me down at the end of this year and then next year if you like, I would be willing to talk then about A Moore and draft failure

 

[Schulzenfest]

Whoa guys, Sloane's disposal efficiency was 0.4% higher than Hartlett's last year! Disregard this argument, Sloane is clearly better. In fact, now that I've learned this we may as well just forfeit the game entirely.

Wines has played 2 games which were both decent. Crouch has played one game which was decent. Neither have delivered as such but both look like future jets.

Wines broke the all-time first year player contested possession record on debut. I'm begging you, please stop trying to talk about Port players. You have NFI.

 

[Phhht]

Angwin was 2000, Sellar in 2006, and Phil Davis walked out as we know but the compo pick was given to GWS in the minidraft for Brad Crouch who was rated as a top 5 draft pick for the 2012 class, and rated higher than Ollie Wines I might add.

If we're going to look back at the early 2000s onwards, would you care to explain Barry Brooks, Troy Chaplin, Adam Thompson, Andrew Moore, etc?

Crouch didnt cost you just the compo pick. Not unless you believe that Brown was worth pick 10. In essence you gave picks 10 + 11 for Crouch and Brown. And as for being rated more highly than Wines, since when did you have access to all recruiters notes?

Brooks netted us Salopek so that wasnt so bad. Chaplin, we got nearly 150 games from a pick 15. Adam Thomson promised us much but was a bust, twas a 'gift' apparently from that Stewart bloke, you know the same one that was poached by ur mob!

Andrew Moore right now is a better player than Crouch, going by your criteria you used when comparing Hartlett and sloane.

 

[Forzaport]

Brooks was traded for pick #6 which was used on Salopek. Sal did play 100+ games so we did ok with the Brooks draft blunder.

 

[Rexie J]

It's quite amazing what happens when someone overdoses on a bad batch of apricot slices

 

[FishingRick04]

Brooks was traded for pick #6 which was used on Salopek. Sal did play 100+ games so we did ok with the Brooks draft blunder.

Who did we cough up for Wakelin then? That was trading gold or was that just a straight swap for pick 4?

 

[Forzaport]

Who did we cough up for Wakelin then? That was trading gold or was that just a straight swap for pick 4?

Gave up pick 4, but we did trade in pick 12 for Bode which we used to draft Shaun Burgoyne. Also drafted Kane Cornes and Cassisi that year. 'twas an excellent off season.

 

[kaysee]

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If we're going to look back at the early 2000s onwards, would you care to explain Barry Brooks, Troy Chaplin, Adam Thompson, Andrew Moore, etc?

- Brooks got us picks #3 and #31... which got us Salopek (injury riddled) and part of the Pickett deal (along with pick #13).

- Troy Chaplin is hardly a draft bust... we received 140 games from him of decent value and got pick #29 when he left landing us a young rated KPD in Clurey (or was it #30 for KPF in Shaw... can't recall specific order).

- Moore's is coming along, after early injury troubles, but it hardly a bust.

 

[FishingRick04]

Gave up pick 4, but we did trade in pick 12 for Bode which we used to draft Shaun Burgoyne. Also drafted Kane Cornes and Cassisi that year. 'twas an excellent off season.

it was but I guess we are digressing aren't we.

From your update of the SANFl team we can rule out a ruck change?