PSD preferences

[Ford Fairlane]

Looks like at this time only 9 clubs will be going in the PSD, including Sydney which should give us #8. Effectively we'll be #6 cos the first 2 picks are locked in, and maybe #5 if Harvey is going to the Roos or maybe even b4 their pick.

So any preferences? Apparently Sydney r going for a younger player - not impressed with what's on offer among the recycleds. It's likely that's the way Port will go given the list training with them, but they've gone into other clubs backyards to pick players before - I think in the 1999 or 2000 PS/rookie drafts we didn't take one player that was training with us (don't quote me exactly on that, it is a vague memory these days).

Wright has been mentioned, but on the crow board it was mentioned Brakenridge also interested Port, as did Parry.

 

[Kid Dynamite!]

Wright for mine.

 

[Portia]

I could see us going for Wright pretty easily, but I still think Luke Herrington is a good smokey as a Che replacement. Cameron Ilett or Joel Campbell might be a good marketing decision. Also, considering the raise in draft age for next year and higher required age for the rookie list, this is our last & best chance to go for a bottom ager - maybe a big lump ruckman like Lachlan McGhie or someone could be good.

It'd be nice if we rewarded one of the blokes training with us, or indeed Craig Parry.

 

[Russian]

Originally posted by Ford Fairlane
Looks like at this time only 9 clubs will be going in the PSD, including Sydney which should give us #8. Effectively we'll be #6 cos the first 2 picks are locked in, and maybe #5 if Harvey is going to the Roos or maybe even b4 their pick.

So any preferences? Apparently Sydney r going for a younger player - not impressed with what's on offer among the recycleds. It's likely that's the way Port will go given the list training with them, but they've gone into other clubs backyards to pick players before - I think in the 1999 or 2000 PS/rookie drafts we didn't take one player that was training with us (don't quote me exactly on that, it is a vague memory these days).

Wright has been mentioned, but on the crow board it was mentioned Brakenridge also interested Port, as did Parry.

Marty McGrath is the only recycled player that interests me - the Aboriginal blood around here will probably help with his attitude problems. And there's Packo but that's not gonna happen. Youngsters - Parry, Illman, Hassan r my top 3

 

[mic59]

Not sure if Hassan did himself any favours with his effort in the SANFL GF when he was targeted by the dogs. I'd go for a young ruckman type, Matt Illman would be my first choice and then Craig Parry.

 

[Paralowiepower]

I liked the looks of Hassan, sure he had no influence in the Gf and you are right Mic59 he was targeted, but you cant get away with doing those things in the AFL. And Im sure he was not 100% after the concussion the week before. He is quick, good around goals, great mark but most importantly has courage and commitment. Would love to hear more from a West supporter, but for me he is the type of player that gets you excited that he is in your team.

 

[Macca19]

Wright is probably the safest bet.

 

[Eddie Woloschek]

Originally posted by Macca19
Wright is probably the safest bet.

if we're thinking safet bets, go with Packo for one more.

 

[mic59]

Originally posted by Paralowiepower
I liked the looks of Hassan, sure he had no influence in the Gf and you are right Mic59 he was targeted, but you cant get away with doing those things in the AFL. And Im sure he was not 100% after the concussion the week before. He is quick, good around goals, great mark but most importantly has courage and commitment. Would love to hear more from a West supporter, but for me he is the type of player that gets you excited that he is in your team.

You're very right there, Paralowiepower. What I'm more bothered in is that he may turn out to be the type of player Derek Murray was, courageous and skilful but tiny. And I'd like us to not turn out with another David Rodan-type, capable of flashes of brilliance but no sustained pressure.

 

[*koulagirl]

Originally posted by mic59
You're very right there, Paralowiepower. What I'm more bothered in is that he may turn out to be the type of player Derek Murray was, courageous and skilful but tiny. And I'd like us to not turn out with another David Rodan-type, capable of flashes of brilliance but no sustained pressure.

Sal was one of our best players throughout the season and often pulled off something inspirational to get the team out of a tight spot or just boost confidence near the end of the match. he can run all day and with regular afl training he may do well, but i'd like to keep him if you don't mind picking up someone else.

please.

and besides, he's mainly a midfielder/forward pocket kinda player, i can't see where exactly you're going to fit him in the scheme of things, now, or in the next couple of years.

 

[Paralowiepower]

Better we pick him up, than a Victorian team, then he wont play any footy at West Adelaide

 

[*koulagirl]

Originally posted by Paralowiepower
Better we pick him up, than a Victorian team, then he wont play any footy at West Adelaide

*shrugs* i'd rather not see him waste his time being a rookie with no future when he could be training with west to be an even better player and be picked up on a main list next year.

 

[Paralowiepower]

Originally posted by *koulagirl
*shrugs* i'd rather not see him waste his time being a rookie with no future when he could be training with west to be an even better player and be picked up on a main list next year.

He will learn alot more at an Afl club than what he would learn at Westies.

 

[*koulagirl]

Originally posted by Paralowiepower
He will learn alot more at an Afl club than what he would learn at Westies.

like what, exactly? i don't see anything shaun rehn can't offer that mark williams can, and it's not like you need lots of money and technology to play the game, and play it well.

 

[Paralowiepower]

Lets see, one is a professional club, and one is a feeder club to the AFL. You tell me.

 

[*koulagirl]

Originally posted by Paralowiepower
Lets see, one is a professional club, and one is a feeder club to the AFL. You tell me.

no, i was asking you.

and i believe that Sal can learn as much under Rehnny than with the power. just because westies are a 'feeder club', as you put it, or an 'sanfl club' as i would put it, the capacity for developing a player's game is not lessened. what can Sal gain by having one session a week with a bunch of guys he won't play with, compared to being a regular in one of the best leagues in australia, working with a team in a team?

 

[Paralowiepower]

Lets see, he can be training with guys like Primus, Carr, Francou and Super Gav 5 days a week, or at Westies with who? 3 nights a week.
Im sure I know where he will learn quicker.

 

[*koulagirl]

Originally posted by Paralowiepower
Lets see, he can be training with guys like Primus, Carr, Francou and Super Gav 5 days a week, or at Westies with who? 3 nights a week.
Im sure I know where he will learn quicker.

actually, i've only ever seen rookies at training on mondays.

at westies he has already spent a year with shane tuck, son of michael tuck, and the recently retired tim symes, and will continue to work with such players as darren bradshaw, ed richardson, possibly ben marsh still, david piasente, luke norman... and many other players who are at/close to reaching the standard of play where they can play afl. the fact that they choose not to(or are not drafted or played every week) does not mean they can not.

as you and others have told me in the past, training is different from games, and as such wouldn't he benefit from playing games with the boys he knows rather than training with those he doesn't play with? how are you supposed to learn the game if you don't play it? how are you supposed to enjoy the game when you switch between teams as regularly as socks or tv channels? you may say that training mates are not important, but that's where you build camaraderie and trust in your teammates, you practise what the coach wants you to do on the ground, you learn to work together so that you can predict them on the ground because you know them as well as yourself.

taking Sal out of monday training and putting him in power training may well affect his game, and then you'll wonder why you bothered with him in the first place.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Don't confuse fitting in with the team pattern with improving yourself as a player. Port's rookie list players generally have impressed over the last few years. They're in the hunger zone - not on an AFL list but a heartbeat away so they're out to prove themselves. They train once a week with elite (for the sport) athletes so they know the intensity required and boundaries they have to break to achieve their dream and if they have any desire they'll push those boundaries - there's just not that incentive once you're consigned to SANFL. They're on a list cos they want to be - no one's twisted their arm. And they're not just learning from Williams - there's an army of skills coaches out there analysing what you do, giving advice on how to improve. Not to mention nutritionists, psychologists, physios with top line rehab advice and facilities. Personally I think Hassan is too small for AFL but Port have been willing to look at those guys on rookie lists in recent years (eg Borlace, Hollands).

BTW he won't be working with Bradshaw in 2004.

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by *koulagirl
no, i was asking you.

and i believe that Sal can learn as much under Rehnny than with the power. just because westies are a 'feeder club', as you put it, or an 'sanfl club' as i would put it, the capacity for developing a player's game is not lessened. what can Sal gain by having one session a week with a bunch of guys he won't play with, compared to being a regular in one of the best leagues in australia, working with a team in a team?

Theres plenty of things he could learn at the Power and being at an AFL club. If he'd only be training for 1 session a week then really the question has to be put towards you - how would training 1 session a week at an AFL club seriously disadvantage him? For someone who would be training only once a week at Alberton you make it sound like he will be shipped off there and will never be able to leave the ground ever again.

As for what he could learn?Maybe being shown how he can improve his game, training, mental ability etc. to become a full time AFL player. Learning from some players who are rated in the top echelon of footballers in this country like Francou, Primus, James, Tredrea. Id back he'd learn a lot more off the likes of Francou and Primus than off David Piasente.

 

[Russian]

Originally posted by Ford Fairlane
BTW he won't be working with Bradshaw in 2004.

I'll stay out of the rest of it, but what's happening to Bradshaw?

 

[sog35]

Bradshaw has a sick grandmother in QLD.

 

[blackdiamond]

Originally posted by sog35
Bradshaw has a sick grandmother in QLD.

Isn't that the same gag Jon played on Survivor?

 

[Russian]

There's a story (not the most reliable one i've seen but...) on the Melbourne board that Clint Bizzell will quit Melbourne. Doubt he'd make it to our pick but would we be interested?

 

[Andre]

Originally posted by Russian
There's a story (not the most reliable one i've seen but...) on the Melbourne board that Clint Bizzell will quit Melbourne. Doubt he'd make it to our pick but would we be interested?

He's also got a year to run on his contract I think. ****ty timing. If he'd quit before the main draft he'd have either been around by our first pick or at least have pushed a good younger player further down the list we might have been interested in. Now ... can't strike a deal with Melbourne at this stage.