Satire is supposed to be amusing isn’t it- ? oh hang on, you were having a joke. Yeah wasn’t funny so maybe that’s why I missed it. Sounded like another sook from yet another irrelevant clubs supporter to me.
So Carlton getting players valued at 43 and 54 doesn’t matter but Brisbane getting a pick in the 60’s (Harris), 40’s (Gallop), late 30’s (Coleman), and a Cat B rookie (Reville), is the reason for every other clubs supports to consistently cry and stamp their feet
, double standards hey. Don’t be another numpy that brings up the Ashcrofts and Fletcher - they were father sons. The reason Geelong had a dynasty and Collingwood beat us in 2023. Annabel hasn’t played and Sam Marshall is in the seconds and did nothing grand final day. It’s just a shit tiresome argument.
So Carlton getting players valued at 43 and 54 doesn’t matter but Brisbane getting a pick in the 60’s (Harris), 40’s (Gallop), late 30’s (Coleman), and a Cat B rookie (Reville), is the reason for every other clubs supports to consistently cry and stamp their feet
The ironic part in this discussion is that if Will Ashcroft had pursued his academy option, then he would be playing for the Suns and not the Lions. The fact that he chose his F/S option should be seen a big win for the anti-academy brigade because that's a generational talent who chose his father's club when he may have had the opportunity to join a different club through their academy program. Those who believe in the sacredness of the F/S rule and that it should take precedence over the academies, by arguing points like Nick Blakey should be playing for North or Cooper Hodge should only be allowed to choose the Hawks, should really be happy that Will Ashcroft chose his F/S option after spending five years in a separate club's academy.
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Yep- what about the fact Geelong’s dynasty was built off father sons. Never hear shit about that, was just accepted.
Hence the double standard being mentioned. As we also saw with Collingwood and Moore + Daicoses recently, it's okay (even celebrated somtimes) to have multiple F/S picks that are really good players and they win you a flag if your club is based in Victoria, but it's definitely not okay to have multiple F/S picks that are really good players and they win you a flag if your club is based in QLD. The hypocrisy is on full display when it comes to this topic.
I've said that Brisbane should have been made to pay a fair price for Will Ashcroft, never said he shouldn't be playing for Brisbane.
Okay so what about Nick Daicos with Collingwood? Sam Darcy with the Bulldogs? Harry Dean with Carlton? They were all top 5 F/S picks over the last 5 years that weren't acquired with a 'fair price' as you put it. Why aren't you as outspoken about those teams underpaying for their high end F/S picks? Just seems like selective outrage towards Brisbane, despite it literally being the exact same scenario.
100% this! The dogs also got pick 1 with JUH with a matching academy bid. Okay, it didn’t work out but no one talks about that either
Probably because Brisbane get to benefit from an academy as well.
It's to help raise the % of Qld and NSW players higher on lists and provide a pathway to the AFL for a few players per year and to improve local football.
You've misunderstood the purpose of the northern academies. This is how the AFL defines them on their website:
Brisbane's F/S picks are unrelated to this and shouldn't be coupled in with the outrage we've seen directed at the Lions' recent drafting history. If you want to discuss Dan Annable then that's fine, but Will Ashcroft, Levi Ashcroft and Jaspa Fletcher were all recruited with the same bid matching technique (trading down to match the bid) + F/S rule that netted Collingwood Nick Daicos, the Bulldogs Sam Darcy and Carlton Harry Dean. You either hate all F/S picks or hate none. You can't just pick and choose when you want to be outraged by the use of the exact same rule.
Why not provide a pathway to the draft where these players can be selected by any club, rather than having them zoned to clubs based in Queensland and New South Wales?
Should you have paid a fair price for Ablett(s), Hawkins, Scarlett or was that ok. ?
Because there would be no incentive for the clubs to run them, and the AFL doesn't want to pay for it. They did previously run that program, Luke Bruest was one of the last players picked up from that program, and is the only one I can name for certain in its last 15 years before the AFL handed it over to the clubs.
Because that eliminates the incentive for the northern clubs to spend 5+ years developing these juniors into AFL draftable talent. Then you'll say the AFL should run the academies indepedent of the northern clubs. They've tried several times and basically failed every time (look into the NSW scholarship program as an example), but you'll double down on the belief that the AFL should be running the northern academies anyway. You'll probably also suggest the AFL has more than enough money to do it (they did in the past and still failed).
This is kind of the point of the northern academies. Areas like Geelong naturally produce high end AFL quality talent without needing an academy pathway and obviously your club benefits from the geographical element because the go home factor is a real thing in this league. This would not be the case in QLD or NSW without the northern academies.
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