Play Nice Random Chat Thread IV

[ferball]

Actual progressives, how would you define one of those?

You are right, my bad, they have largely rejoined. The tension is not as prevalent as it once was. Politician stances ebb and flow.


Why do I need to convince you of anything?

Why do I always to have provide detailed evidence and waste my time pissing in the wind when it gets flippantly ignored time and time again?

So many in this thread leaped to my defence when Sopworths called me a racist piece of garbage based on nothing, o wait, most of you didn’t.

It is, therefore, clear that I won’t change your mind no matter what I post in relation to racism, so why should I bother placating people who don’t even remotely respect me.

So let’s just move on shall we.

I didn't see what caused that spat you're referring to.

However the polling booth thing in Kentucky is racist. It's straight up racist or its systemically, institutionally racist. Either way...

There is or was a Republican over there - Jason Nemes - leading a lawsuit against the state and its electoral officials on the basis of the essentially racist nature of the cut in polling booth numbers. It's not some partisan thing.

 

[ferball]

As far as defunding the police goes...

The police in the US have been militarised for 40 years or more. A lot of it is surplus equipment, they don't pay for it. It comes thru various government programs.

For all her politiciany bullshit AOC was right when she said defended police looks like typical suburbs in white upper middle America.

Every other service in the states has been defunded. Why not add the cops, instead of dispatching poorly trained, well armed shitheads to deal with every minor situation that could have been dealt with by previously funded civil services.

 

[ferball]

Also...

How's this for interesting. This is a study claiming to find a link between increased militarisation of the police and an increase in police shootings of suspects. The author claims this is due to a psychological change that accompanies the militarisation of police forces, not the equipment itself or its availability.

Bits of it seems sketchy and I'm still working thru it but it's an interesting idea.

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[Scallop Industry Thug]

I’d suggest the admission of slowing down testing to deflate numbers is a bigger ethical concern than congratulating teens for a well executed troll.

 

[Royal Flush]

I’d suggest the admission of slowing down testing to deflate numbers is a bigger ethical concern than congratulating teens for a well executed troll.

You dont think the comment was tongue in cheek, reference to China?

 

[Val Keating]

You dont think the comment was tongue in cheek, reference to China?

Not at all. People were already speculating about the testing slowing down and now he’s admitted it was on his request.

 

[Tectonic]

You dont think the comment was tongue in cheek, reference to China?

Nope, he was trying to say that the mild cases shouldn't be counted I think.

It's hard to be 100% sure though, the whole rally was like some fever dream. He spent half an hour talking about a slippery ramp and not wanting to get water on his tie.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

You dont think the comment was tongue in cheek, reference to China?

I don’t think so. His supporters claim 4d chess. I just think he’s a dumb rich idiot who’s getting past it.

 

[Royal Flush]

Not at all. People were already speculating about the testing slowing down and now he’s admitted it was on his request.

Nope, he was trying to say that the mild cases shouldn't be counted I think.

It's hard to be 100% sure though, the whole rally was like some fever dream. He spent half an hour talking about a slippery ramp and not wanting to get water on his tie.

I don’t think so. His supporters claim 4d chess. I just think he’s a dumb rich idiot who’s getting past it.

I literally listened to about 5 compressed minutes of it, the tie, the water, the slowing down of testing.
I assumed it politically satirical with references to issues i know SFA about.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

I didn't see what caused that spat you're referring to.

However the polling booth thing in Kentucky is racist. It's straight up racist or its systemically, institutionally racist. Either way...

There is or was a Republican over there - Jason Nemes - leading a lawsuit against the state and its electoral officials on the basis of the essentially racist nature of the cut in polling booth numbers. It's not some partisan thing.

Not hard to find, dude. The point still stands.

His case was chucked pretty quick.

Judge Rules Against Lawsuit Calling For More Kentucky Polling Places

A federal judge has ruled that Kentucky’s most populous counties will not have more than one polling location during the primary elections.

www.google.com.au

In a ruling issued Thursday, U.S. District Court Judge Charles Simpson said there was no evidence that only having one polling location in the affected counties would result in voter suppression.

“Comprehensive plans were put in place which included making absentee ballots available for all voters, providing early in-person voting options for 15 days leading up to Election Day, and establishing a polling place for Election Day in-person voting,” Simpson wrote.

“This Triple Crown of voting options wins against the pandemic’s risk of disenfranchising the Kentucky voter.”

Boone and Campbell counties agreed to each add one polling location as part of a settlement reached earlier this week.
In response to the coronavirus pandemic, Gov. Andy Beshear and Secretary of State Michael Adams reached a bipartisan agreement to delay Kentucky’s primary election from May 19 to June 23 and expanded mail-in voting to all eligible voters.

 

[Snake_Baker]

There's no point rationalizing with emotionally primed opinions.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

There's no point rationalizing with emotionally primed opinions.

I know, couldn’t help myself.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

 

[Royal Flush]

Brave new world. Cancel culture spreading faster then Covid19.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Brave new world. Cancel culture spreading faster then Covid19.

I’m still waiting for them to tear down all the Lenin and Marx statutes, very curious.

 

[krakouers]

I’m still waiting for them to tear down all the Lenin and Marx statutes, very curious.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Brave new world. Cancel culture spreading faster then Covid19.

Stand up to it, and be courageous.

The "silent majority" is just another term for a majority of cowards.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Cancel culture doesn’t always work. Annaliese van diemon saw them off quite comfortably.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Glances to fine leg and moves on to 134.

 

[Ry009]

There's no point rationalizing with emotionally primed opinions.

I think absolutely everyone in this thread has had various levels of emotional investment in the topics of the last few months, everyone.

Naive to suggest otherwise.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I think absolutely everyone in this thread has had various levels of emotional investment in the topics of the last few months, everyone.

Naive to suggest otherwise.

I'm referring to opinion formation. How they are cultivated in the first place. It's quite easy to separate the rationalists from the programmed.

 

[Ry009]

I'm referring to opinion formation. How they are cultivated in the first place. It's quite easy to separate the rationalists from the programmed.

That's my point. We're all framed by our experiences, but the media/news has boiled every issue to a binary argument and we're programmed to be tribal in our responses.

I think we (at least this forum) are good people that want a harmonious and well functioning society but like life in general there's a lot of grey area and naturally there's going to be a crossover of opinion.

Until we open ourselves to new ideas, rather than continually hammer home our own to others, we'll never move forward as a society.

 

[Val Keating]

That’s an interesting one. He had some faults but in a lot of ways he was very progressive for his time. Such an important figure in US history. They can’t cancel history.

 

[Snake_Baker]

That's my point. We're all framed by our experiences, but the media/news has boiled every issue to a binary argument and we're programmed to be tribal in our responses.

"We" implicates all posters. This is not correct.

I agree that the undisciplined mind is "programmed to be tribal in our responses", however, rationalists pause between the elicited stimulus and the emotional response, the easily programmed do not.

In fact, it's generally a very difficult drawn out process in order for people to unclutter their minds (i.e. the rabbit hole). You have to channel your inner Spock.

 

[SMaturin]

No one can mention Spok and not have me post this: