Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[ferball]

I also knew Israel would one day face cataclysmic clash between the sensible secular side and the Orthodox/settler nutbars, but tbh I didn't think it would come this quickly.

The idea of a settler led government free of judicial constraints in charge of Israal's military and nukes is utterly terrifying.

Fight for Israel’s future in balance after a win for Netanyahu coalition

A constitutional crisis is brewing, more protests are expected and PM looks weak despite victory

www.theguardian.com

I bet the Israeli cops don't shoot their own people for protesting.

 

[Del191229]

I bet the Israeli cops don't shoot their own people for protesting.

I dunno, seen them deploying the water cannon.

If the settlers start shooting at them or the soldiers, they'll shoot back.

Civil war is not impossible.

 

[ferball]

I dunno, seen them deploying the water cannon.

If the settlers start shooting at them or the soldiers, they'll shoot back.

Civil war is not impossible.

That article quoted Itimar Ben-Gvir.

At least in Australia there was some outrage when Blair Cottrell was quoted in the media. That campaigner is a terrorist, lives in a stolen home and leads a party with seats in the Knesset.

 

[Del191229]

That article quoted Itimar Ben-Gvir.

At least in Australia there was some outrage when Blair Cottrell was quoted in the media. That campaigner is a terrorist, lives in a stolen home and leads a party with seats in the Knesset.

Yep, disgusting that a government with someone like him in it is considered our close ally

 

[ferball]

BTW Val Keating.

Today US time is the US House hearing into UAPs.

Its UFO Day!!!

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[DesertRoo]

I’ve said it before anyone who’s had any sort of relationship with Epstein should be banned from holding any position in public office, is it unfair?
Sure, but until the courts can unwrap the blackmail operation, they should be completely excluded.

 

[Del191229]

Not exactly breaking news they were close right.

I've always found it interesting that back in the day Trump remarked publicly on Epstein favouring young females.

Trump's many many bad things, but I don't think he's a paedo like Epstein.

 

[Chadwiko]

Trump's many many bad things, but I don't think he's a paedo like Epstein.

For all the 'creepy' behaviour conservatives love to accuse Biden of, Trump has actually done way, way worse. And been recorded admitting to it, or been charged for it, etc etc.

Everything from the classic 'grab them by the pussy' to parading around in backstage change rooms for underage beauty pageants, to taking his daughter with him when he was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein:

 

[Del191229]

For all the 'creepy' behaviour conservatives love to accuse Biden of, Trump has actually done way, way worse. And been recorded admitting to it, or been charged for it, etc etc.

Everything from the classic 'grab them by the pussy' to parading around in backstage change rooms for underage beauty pageants, to taking his daughter with him when he was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein:

It isn't all about the USA culture war as you once said to me, what's said about Biden isn't material here.

Trump's a shocking sleazebag and a rapist.

But I don't think he's a paedophile like Epstein or Prince Andrew.

Indeed, that quote I was talking about his quite interesting. He's very much saying Epstein IS a paedo, and by definition he Trump isn't.

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine that year for a story headlined “Jeffrey Epstein: International Moneyman of Mystery.” “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-called-epstein-a-terrific-guy-before-denying-relationship-with-him/2019/07/08/a01e0f00-a1be-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html

Bill Clinton is the better comparator for Trump than Epstein imo.

 

[Chadwiko]

It isn't all about the USA culture war as you once said to me, what's said about Biden isn't material here.

Trump's a shocking sleazebag and a rapist.

But I don't think he's a paedophile like Epstein or Prince Andrew.

You're right it's not about a culture war. But considering someone like Bill Gates, who never flew with Epstein and never went to his island, is regularly accused of being a paedophile by the far-right loons simply because he met with Epstein in a professional capacity...

And yet Trump flew with the guy multiple times, partied with him, provided positive character references for him in the media (like you shared above), and women have testified that Epstein introduced them to Trump while they were underage... yet no one accuses Trump of being a paedophile?

Cmon.

 

[DesertRoo]

It isn't all about the USA culture war as you once said to me, what's said about Biden isn't material here.

Trump's a shocking sleazebag and a rapist.

But I don't think he's a paedophile like Epstein or Prince Andrew.

Indeed, that quote I was talking about his quite interesting. He's very much saying Epstein IS a paedo, and by definition he Trump isn't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-called-epstein-a-terrific-guy-before-denying-relationship-with-him/2019/07/08/a01e0f00-a1be-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html

Bill Clinton is the better comparator for Trump than Epstein imo.

Could’ve gone Bush Snr after everyone came forward about Mr touchy.
There’s a lot of stories about rent boys(teenagers) being in and out of the WH at that stage.

 

[DesertRoo]

You're right it's not about a culture war. But considering someone like Bill Gates, who never flew with Epstein and never went to his island, is regularly accused of being a paedophile by the far-right loons simply because he met with Epstein in a professional capacity...

And yet Trump flew with the guy multiple times, partied with him, provided positive character references for him in the media (like you shared above), and women have testified that Epstein introduced them to Trump while they were underage... yet no one accuses Trump of being a paedophile?

Cmon.

Yet Maxwell seems to
suggest bill was the source of her wealth..

https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/ANDREW_S-FIXER_SHE_S-THE-DAUGHTER-OF-ROBERT-MAXWELL-AND-1.pdf

And 1995 ole bills company started using Maxwell sisters owned McKinley directory..

MSN to Use McKinley Directory

Subscribers to Microsoft's namesake online service can search the Internet via The McKinley Group's Magellan Internet Directory, which debuted last summer.

www.cnet.com

 

[koshari]

watched the farnsey docco last night, was good,

 

[Twinkletoes]

Shaka appeared live via video link on ESPN FC last night, if you can find it gr. In good spirits but given a massive scare and he’s enormously thankful for the assistance he received and will continue to receive from medicos determined to find the cause of it.

 

[giantroo]

Shaka appeared live via video link on ESPN FC last night, if you can find it gr. In good spirits but given a massive scare and he’s enormously thankful for the assistance he received and will continue to receive from medicos determined to find the cause of it.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Great work as always.

 

[ferball]

It isn't all about the USA culture war as you once said to me, what's said about Biden isn't material here.

Trump's a shocking sleazebag and a rapist.

But I don't think he's a paedophile like Epstein or Prince Andrew.

Indeed, that quote I was talking about his quite interesting. He's very much saying Epstein IS a paedo, and by definition he Trump isn't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-called-epstein-a-terrific-guy-before-denying-relationship-with-him/2019/07/08/a01e0f00-a1be-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html

Bill Clinton is the better comparator for Trump than Epstein imo.

There's some pretty groady images of trump floating around ... well there used to be. They were pretty suggestive of what was going on.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

It isn't all about the USA culture war as you once said to me, what's said about Biden isn't material here.

Trump's a shocking sleazebag and a rapist.

But I don't think he's a paedophile like Epstein or Prince Andrew.

Indeed, that quote I was talking about his quite interesting. He's very much saying Epstein IS a paedo, and by definition he Trump isn't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-called-epstein-a-terrific-guy-before-denying-relationship-with-him/2019/07/08/a01e0f00-a1be-11e9-bd56-eac6bb02d01d_story.html

Bill Clinton is the better comparator for Trump than Epstein imo.

I don't agree with your interpretation of Trump's quote. At the time, he and Epstein were clearly friends, so Trump wouldn't consciously out Epstein as a paedophile and possibly didn't even perceive it at the time. I interpret it as they both like younger women, with no suggestion that they're under-age younger (in that quote). So, it's not "by definition" proof that Trump isn't a paedo, though I otherwise agree that he probably isn't. He's 'just' a sleazebag rapist.

 

[Val Keating]

One thing that's certainly happened in the last two years is the highlighting of every kid who has heart issues. Its hard to take this seriously - one of the first examples of this I saw was a kiwi cricketer who had a heart attack before the vaccine roll out even got to where he lived. But it was held up as an example of the vaccine ******* people up.

At the same time since the pandemic the excess rate of death in Australia is very high (and some of the spikes match the first two Omicron waves but not all of it.) Its high all over the world and no one seems to even bat an eyelid about it. Obviously some of it is due to covid (and some may be due to vaccines for covid) but at the same time I constantly hear stories about nurses who are forced to work 18 hour shifts repeatedly for days on end, there are flood refugee camps where I live (and I know people in them who simply don't see medical help the way they did pre flood,) full of people who still don't have homes and the cost of living (including seeking medical treatment) is thru the roof.

People tell me they've never seen as many homeless people in any of our capital cities as they see now.

Its as if the systems in Australia that we built to secure a healthy society are starting to collapse.

Yeah I just meant that in terms of every time someone has a heart attack the covid vaccine skeptics, blame the vaccine is similar to every time there’s a fire the climate cookers blame climate change.

There’s a Venn diagram there. They have so much in common, though are on opposing sides (usually).

Yes it is real that the vaccine causes myocarditis in a very small percentage of people, but not every heart attack is from the vaccine.

And yes humans causing Climate change is real, but not every fire etc. is not because of climate change.

 

[Val Keating]

It’s extremely strange that the government was supposed to release the flight logs ages ago but still haven’t.

A lot of people with a lot of power were going to that island.

 

[andana]

The lucky country​

Colonisation by British 'luckiest thing' to happen to Australia - John Howard​

Speaking to the Australian Newspaper about the upcoming vote, Mr Howard described colonisation as "inevitable".
"I do hold the view that the luckiest thing that happened to this country was being colonised by the British," he said. "Not that they were perfect by any means, but they were infinitely more successful and beneficent colonisers than other European countries."

He also predicted that the Voice to Parliament initiative would fail to pass, leaving a "new cockpit of conflict" over "how to help Indigenous people" in its wake, while accusing its proponents of failing to sell it to the Australian public.

Mr Howard is one of the most influential conservative figures to throw his weight behind the No campaign, but his own legacy on Indigenous affairs remains controversial.

His government weakened First Nations land rights, suspended Australia's racial discrimination act, and refused to apologise to the Stolen Generations - tens of thousands of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander children who were taken from their families by the government until the mid-1960s.
And in 2007 he was the architect of "the Intervention", a set of policies which saw Australia's military deployed to seize control of daily life in 73 remote Indigenous communities across the Northern Territory.

 

[Engimal v3]

If anyone is up for some fun, head to the North Melbourne Priority Pick thread on the main board and suggest increasingly ridiculous packages for us.

Revs the oppo supporters up so good lol

 

[Del191229]

You're right it's not about a culture war. But considering someone like Bill Gates, who never flew with Epstein and never went to his island, is regularly accused of being a paedophile by the far-right loons simply because he met with Epstein in a professional capacity...

And yet Trump flew with the guy multiple times, partied with him, provided positive character references for him in the media (like you shared above), and women have testified that Epstein introduced them to Trump while they were underage... yet no one accuses Trump of being a paedophile?

Cmon.

I'm not accusing Gates of being a paedophile.

From what I've read about Epstein there weren't just underage girls at his houses/islands etc, there were adult women available too.

Gates was almost certainly availing himself of those delights.

I'm interested in what Epstein's "professional capacity" was though.

Some sort of money guy - Gates hardly short of those.

Ghislaine was the true brains of that deal, and I strongly suspect was doing it as part of an intelligence operation collecting blackmail

 

[Del191229]

Yet Maxwell seems to
suggest bill was the source of her wealth..

https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/ANDREW_S-FIXER_SHE_S-THE-DAUGHTER-OF-ROBERT-MAXWELL-AND-1.pdf

And 1995 ole bills company started using Maxwell sisters owned McKinley directory..

MSN to Use McKinley Directory

Subscribers to Microsoft's namesake online service can search the Internet via The McKinley Group's Magellan Internet Directory, which debuted last summer.

www.cnet.com

Isn't the far more likely suggestion that she had the money that old man had looted from the Mirror pension funds, which is how Epstein came into the picture - she needed him to wash/cover it?