Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[goalieboy82]

right i hate to post this...

Donate to Please help my son back to me, organized by Chloe Starr

Hello, my name is Chloe Starr. In March of this year, my 7 year old son was taking from me. … Chloe Starr needs your support for Please help my son back to me

www.gofundme.com

this is wrong on all sorts of levels....

 

[goalieboy82]

right i hate to post this...

Donate to Please help my son back to me, organized by Chloe Starr

Hello, my name is Chloe Starr. In March of this year, my 7 year old son was taking from me. … Chloe Starr needs your support for Please help my son back to me

www.gofundme.com

this is wrong on all sorts of levels....

so say a little prayer for her and Aizeck:

 

[Del191229]

Am firmly of view that we are seeing the climate changing before our eyes.

Its happening faster and with more intensity than we thought it would.

But it is playing it differently to how the Tim Flannery's of the world painted it: looks like Melbourne especially is getting a warmer overall and wetter climate rather than the endless drought of the 00s type predictions.

One thin g is for sure, climate change is not some theoretical thing for humanity to avoid like the Y2K Bug, it is here and happening.

At the same time, progress is definitely being made too.

This is a fascinating read:

I thought most of us were going to die from the climate crisis. I was wrong

In an extract from her book Not the End of the World, data scientist Hannah Ritchie explains how her work taught her that there are more reasons for hope than despair about climate change

www.theguardian.com

 

[Val Keating]

Am firmly of view that we are seeing the climate changing before our eyes.

Its happening faster and with more intensity than we thought it would.

But it is playing it differently to how the Tim Flannery's of the world painted it: looks like Melbourne especially is getting a warmer overall and wetter climate rather than the endless drought of the 00s type predictions.

One thin g is for sure, climate change is not some theoretical thing for humanity to avoid like the Y2K Bug, it is here and happening.

At the same time, progress is definitely being made too.

This is a fascinating read:

I thought most of us were going to die from the climate crisis. I was wrong

In an extract from her book Not the End of the World, data scientist Hannah Ritchie explains how her work taught her that there are more reasons for hope than despair about climate change

www.theguardian.com

I thought it has already been proven that humans are speeding up climate change, the only debate is how much?

Just don’t glue yourself to anything or destroy any priceless art please.

 

[Val Keating]

I wonder if the FBI are actually going to do anything about the people that Epstein & Maxwell were found guilty of trafficking under age girls to? They have to don’t they? Can’t just let the nonces get away with it.

 

[Del191229]

I thought it has already been proven that humans are speeding up climate change, the only debate is how much?

Just don’t glue yourself to anything or destroy any priceless art please.

Oh it has, that's what I'm saying - but it used to be a thing where we wouldn't see the impacts until some time in "the future".

That future is now.

Article I posted is good on the how much bit.

 

[Del191229]

I wonder if the FBI are actually going to do anything about the people that Epstein & Maxwell were found guilty of trafficking under age girls to? They have to don’t they? Can’t just let the nonces get away with it.

Like Acosta said, they belong to intelligence.

 

[ferball]

Am firmly of view that we are seeing the climate changing before our eyes.

Its happening faster and with more intensity than we thought it would.

But it is playing it differently to how the Tim Flannery's of the world painted it: looks like Melbourne especially is getting a warmer overall and wetter climate rather than the endless drought of the 00s type predictions.

One thin g is for sure, climate change is not some theoretical thing for humanity to avoid like the Y2K Bug, it is here and happening.

At the same time, progress is definitely being made too.

This is a fascinating read:

I thought most of us were going to die from the climate crisis. I was wrong

In an extract from her book Not the End of the World, data scientist Hannah Ritchie explains how her work taught her that there are more reasons for hope than despair about climate change

www.theguardian.com

I'm moving to Tassie in a couple of weeks. Probably a few years earlier than I planned but afaic I'm a climate refo.

I've watched the weather change over the last 30 years. The issue atm, as you mention, is atmospheric moisture. While the volcanic eruption two years ago in Tonga undoubtedly contributed to the current moisture level, 12 months beforehand the Gold Coast hinterland at Springbrook had a metre+ of rain in three days.

So up here the summers of 20/21 - 23/24 have had stupid levels of rain.

The East Coast lows are changing. Over the last decade they've started to rotate. Now they have an eye added to that structure. Not full cyclonic winds yet but it only needs a couple more degrees of localised ocean heat to drive them into full cyclones. I'll be surprised (and relieved for all my friends up here) if there aren't cyclone developing off the SE Syrian coast within five years. Definitely within a decade. Unless something unprecedented happens, like a nuclear winter.

Other shit happens too. Things dry out faster, but that may be due to water mining, fracking etc etc.

I've already seen it change crop production and yields in Australia and we've lost a percentage of the national herd (cattle mostly but also sheep.) The wheat yield this year will be low, the storms we've had this year in Northern NSW have actually impacted bread and milk production.

That article is a positive and has some encouraging data but things are already going a bit haywire.

 

[ferball]

I wonder if the FBI are actually going to do anything about the people that Epstein & Maxwell were found guilty of trafficking under age girls to? They have to don’t they? Can’t just let the nonces get away with it.

In the courtroom of honor, the judge pounded his gavel
To show that all's equal and that the courts are on the level
And that the strings in the books ain't pulled and persuaded
And that even the nobles get properly handled
Once that the cops have chased after and caught 'em
And that the ladder of law has no top and no bottom


LOL

 

[Del191229]

I'm moving to Tassie in a couple of weeks. Probably a few years earlier than I planned but afaic I'm a climate refo.

I've watched the weather change over the last 30 years. The issue atm, as you mention, is atmospheric moisture. While the volcanic eruption two years ago in Tonga undoubtedly contributed to the current moisture level, 12 months beforehand the Gold Coast hinterland at Springbrook had a metre+ of rain in three days.

So up here the summers of 20/21 - 23/24 have had stupid levels of rain.

The East Coast lows are changing. Over the last decade they've started to rotate. Now they have an eye added to that structure. Not full cyclonic winds yet but it only needs a couple more degrees of localised ocean heat to drive them into full cyclones. I'll be surprised (and relieved for all my friends up here) if there aren't cyclone developing off the SE Syrian coast within five years. Definitely within a decade. Unless something unprecedented happens, like a nuclear winter.

Other s**t happens too. Things dry out faster, but that may be due to water mining, fracking etc etc.

I've already seen it change crop production and yields in Australia and we've lost a percentage of the national herd (cattle mostly but also sheep.) The wheat yield this year will be low, the storms we've had this year in Northern NSW have actually impacted bread and milk production.

That article is a positive and has some encouraging data but things are already going a bit haywire.

Yeah, my take rn based on a combination of anecdotal/personal observation and the records, is that rather than the continent wide mega drought of Flannery doomerismn, what seems to be happening is that Melbourne's getting Sydney's weather.

But Sydney is getting Brisbane's weather ... and Brisbane's (and further south) is getting Cairns weather as you say.

The below is similar in tone to that Graun one I posted. The world isn't going to end in a climate mega breakdown as some of the more millenarian doomerism of the 90s/00s had it.

But it is will be harder and tougher world, that's for sure. Or maybe the reality is it'll be basically like the world has been for the vast majority of human existence ... and the last 40-60 years was the anomaly.

Canada in the Year 2060 - Macleans.ca

Summers lost to fire and smoke. Biblical floods. Dying forests. Retreating coasts. Economic turmoil and political unrest. It’s going to be a weird century. Here’s what it will look like—and how Canada can get through it.

macleans.ca

 

[Val Keating]

Like Acosta said, they belong to intelligence.

There’s a good chance that Trump is on that list. I reckon they’ll finish his chances of running for president at least. A few others will go down too. They have to.

 

[ferball]

Yeah, my take rn based on a combination of anecdotal/personal observation and the records, is that rather than the continent wide mega drought of Flannery doomerismn, what seems to be happening is that Melbourne's getting Sydney's weather.

But Sydney is getting Brisbane's weather ... and Brisbane's (and further south) is getting Cairns weather as you say.

The below is similar in tone to that Graun one I posted. The world isn't going to end in a climate mega breakdown as some of the more millenarian doomerism of the 90s/00s had it.

But it is will be harder and tougher world, that's for sure. Or maybe the reality is it'll be basically like the world has been for the vast majority of human existence ... and the last 40-60 years was the anomaly.

Canada in the Year 2060 - Macleans.ca

Summers lost to fire and smoke. Biblical floods. Dying forests. Retreating coasts. Economic turmoil and political unrest. It’s going to be a weird century. Here’s what it will look like—and how Canada can get through it.

macleans.ca

Tassie will be great in 20 years. Except for the Antarctic blasts that we'll cop in spring.

I dunno if I've posted on this before but according to ... the Boffins, if you like, the guys who do the hard work crunching the data and interpreting it ... the 2019 fires were caused by a breakdown of the climate cycle. It was bad enough that there was severe drought leading into 2019 but the summer of 2018/19 was insane in terms of an ongoing heatwave. I've mentioned before how I travelled alot to Melbourne that summer. It basically didn't get below 38 west of the Great Divide for the whole summer and temps under 40 were less frequent than those over 40.

So there ended up a mass of hot air bigger than NSW. Possibly bigger than the entire SE of the continent.

That and the drought combined to drive extreme fire conditions.

This hot air travelled south over winter and interfered with the polar vortex, driving instability and pushing the strong westerlies that blow south of the roaring 40s up into the high 20S and the 30S latitudes.

That's why we had insane westerlies that spring and summer - it was why the fires were so bad, given the fuel they had available due to the drought (tho in the worst hit parts of NSW there was nothing to burn.) Those westerlies were a nightmare. Wind is one of the biggest drivers of fire, hot dry winds are perfect for it.

We do get these winds in winter, the westerlies and further south they bring rain but in the sub tropics they can often dry things out and they can be strong.

On the face of it its a tiny mass of hot air. SE Australia isn't a large area compared to the rest of the planet or the atmosphere itself but look at the chaos that little event caused.

Our society will be under alot of stress because we leverage our infrastructure so much and are so dependent on it. We saw the effect covid had on supple chains when the infrastructure supporting the Pacific ocean trade between China and the US failed at the ports in California. Other infrastructure is in the same ...er ..... boat.

It was genuinely weird seeing the lack of bread and milk on supermarket shelves due to storm activity.

This wasn't because of a shortage of flour either (I'll get to that,) rather it was the effect of severe storms - flash flooding and power loss - that stopped the bread being baked at large bakeries like tip top and stopped it being delivered thru temporarily flooded roads that weren't really damaged compared to other roads in the area that were.

Society still functioned (tho we spent every day watching for hail and other severe storm effects) but we had no bread and not enough milk.

And within a day or two things were back to normal.

Some people might laugh at the idea of climate change causing food shortages in Australia but that's just what happened this summer. Its just the extremely mild side of the "food shortage" spectrum. In many ways its ridiculous to take that perspective because there was plenty of food.

But bread is our most basic staple, milk isn't far behind and both were unavailable. Plenty of flour around, and milk for that matter it was just hard to get bread and milk made, packaged and distributed.

I said I'd get to it re flour shortages...

A friend who grew up in Western NSW in the wheat country south west of Tamworth was out that way in November and she said wheat was already turning and forming heads despite the growing season having months left. It was too dry and plants were going to seed because they didn't have enough water to grow thru to their full maturity.

So the wheat crop will be smaller because of how dry it was months ago. Ridiculous when you think about how much rain we have had. And if anything that rain made things worse because if it comes when the plants are forming the wheat seeds then it can destroy the crop.

Australia has a wheat surplus so we should be right but bread may be expensive this winter.

 

[Del191229]

Tassie will be great in 20 years. Except for the Antarctic blasts that we'll cop in spring.

I dunno if I've posted on this before but according to ... the Boffins, if you like, the guys who do the hard work crunching the data and interpreting it ... the 2019 fires were caused by a breakdown of the climate cycle. It was bad enough that there was severe drought leading into 2019 but the summer of 2018/19 was insane in terms of an ongoing heatwave. I've mentioned before how I travelled alot to Melbourne that summer. It basically didn't get below 38 west of the Great Divide for the whole summer and temps under 40 were less frequent than those over 40.

So there ended up a mass of hot air bigger than NSW. Possibly bigger than the entire SE of the continent.

That and the drought combined to drive extreme fire conditions.

This hot air travelled south over winter and interfered with the polar vortex, driving instability and pushing the strong westerlies that blow south of the roaring 40s up into the high 20S and the 30S latitudes.

That's why we had insane westerlies that spring and summer - it was why the fires were so bad, given the fuel they had available due to the drought (tho in the worst hit parts of NSW there was nothing to burn.) Those westerlies were a nightmare. Wind is one of the biggest drivers of fire, hot dry winds are perfect for it.

We do get these winds in winter, the westerlies and further south they bring rain but in the sub tropics they can often dry things out and they can be strong.

On the face of it its a tiny mass of hot air. SE Australia isn't a large area compared to the rest of the planet or the atmosphere itself but look at the chaos that little event caused.

Our society will be under alot of stress because we leverage our infrastructure so much and are so dependent on it. We saw the effect covid had on supple chains when the infrastructure supporting the Pacific ocean trade between China and the US failed at the ports in California. Other infrastructure is in the same ...er ..... boat.

It was genuinely weird seeing the lack of bread and milk on supermarket shelves due to storm activity.

This wasn't because of a shortage of flour either (I'll get to that,) rather it was the effect of severe storms - flash flooding and power loss - that stopped the bread being baked at large bakeries like tip top and stopped it being delivered thru temporarily flooded roads that weren't really damaged compared to other roads in the area that were.

Society still functioned (tho we spent every day watching for hail and other severe storm effects) but we had no bread and not enough milk.

And within a day or two things were back to normal.

Some people might laugh at the idea of climate change causing food shortages in Australia but that's just what happened this summer. Its just the extremely mild side of the "food shortage" spectrum. In many ways its ridiculous to take that perspective because there was plenty of food.

But bread is our most basic staple, milk isn't far behind and both were unavailable. Plenty of flour around, and milk for that matter it was just hard to get bread and milk made, packaged and distributed.

I said I'd get to it re flour shortages...

A friend who grew up in Western NSW in the wheat country south west of Tamworth was out that way in November and she said wheat was already turning and forming heads despite the growing season having months left. It was too dry and plants were going to seed because they didn't have enough water to grow thru to their full maturity.

So the wheat crop will be smaller because of how dry it was months ago. Ridiculous when you think about how much rain we have had. And if anything that rain made things worse because if it comes when the plants are forming the wheat seeds then it can destroy the crop.

Australia has a wheat surplus so we should be right but bread may be expensive this winter.

Its lucky that the world won't face a wheat shortage due to any other external issue at the other big global suppliers.

 

[Dan]

 

[krakouers]

Tassie will be great in 20 years. Except for the Antarctic blasts that we'll cop in spring.

I dunno if I've posted on this before but according to ... the Boffins, if you like, the guys who do the hard work crunching the data and interpreting it ... the 2019 fires were caused by a breakdown of the climate cycle. It was bad enough that there was severe drought leading into 2019 but the summer of 2018/19 was insane in terms of an ongoing heatwave. I've mentioned before how I travelled alot to Melbourne that summer. It basically didn't get below 38 west of the Great Divide for the whole summer and temps under 40 were less frequent than those over 40.

So there ended up a mass of hot air bigger than NSW. Possibly bigger than the entire SE of the continent.

That and the drought combined to drive extreme fire conditions.

This hot air travelled south over winter and interfered with the polar vortex, driving instability and pushing the strong westerlies that blow south of the roaring 40s up into the high 20S and the 30S latitudes.

That's why we had insane westerlies that spring and summer - it was why the fires were so bad, given the fuel they had available due to the drought (tho in the worst hit parts of NSW there was nothing to burn.) Those westerlies were a nightmare. Wind is one of the biggest drivers of fire, hot dry winds are perfect for it.

We do get these winds in winter, the westerlies and further south they bring rain but in the sub tropics they can often dry things out and they can be strong.

On the face of it its a tiny mass of hot air. SE Australia isn't a large area compared to the rest of the planet or the atmosphere itself but look at the chaos that little event caused.

Our society will be under alot of stress because we leverage our infrastructure so much and are so dependent on it. We saw the effect covid had on supple chains when the infrastructure supporting the Pacific ocean trade between China and the US failed at the ports in California. Other infrastructure is in the same ...er ..... boat.

It was genuinely weird seeing the lack of bread and milk on supermarket shelves due to storm activity.

This wasn't because of a shortage of flour either (I'll get to that,) rather it was the effect of severe storms - flash flooding and power loss - that stopped the bread being baked at large bakeries like tip top and stopped it being delivered thru temporarily flooded roads that weren't really damaged compared to other roads in the area that were.

Society still functioned (tho we spent every day watching for hail and other severe storm effects) but we had no bread and not enough milk.

And within a day or two things were back to normal.

Some people might laugh at the idea of climate change causing food shortages in Australia but that's just what happened this summer. Its just the extremely mild side of the "food shortage" spectrum. In many ways its ridiculous to take that perspective because there was plenty of food.

But bread is our most basic staple, milk isn't far behind and both were unavailable. Plenty of flour around, and milk for that matter it was just hard to get bread and milk made, packaged and distributed.

I said I'd get to it re flour shortages...

A friend who grew up in Western NSW in the wheat country south west of Tamworth was out that way in November and she said wheat was already turning and forming heads despite the growing season having months left. It was too dry and plants were going to seed because they didn't have enough water to grow thru to their full maturity.

So the wheat crop will be smaller because of how dry it was months ago. Ridiculous when you think about how much rain we have had. And if anything that rain made things worse because if it comes when the plants are forming the wheat seeds then it can destroy the crop.

Australia has a wheat surplus so we should be right but bread may be expensive this winter.

I'm moving to Tassie in a couple of weeks. Probably a few years earlier than I planned but afaic I'm a climate refo.

I've watched the weather change over the last 30 years. The issue atm, as you mention, is atmospheric moisture. While the volcanic eruption two years ago in Tonga undoubtedly contributed to the current moisture level, 12 months beforehand the Gold Coast hinterland at Springbrook had a metre+ of rain in three days.

So up here the summers of 20/21 - 23/24 have had stupid levels of rain.

The East Coast lows are changing. Over the last decade they've started to rotate. Now they have an eye added to that structure. Not full cyclonic winds yet but it only needs a couple more degrees of localised ocean heat to drive them into full cyclones. I'll be surprised (and relieved for all my friends up here) if there aren't cyclone developing off the SE Syrian coast within five years. Definitely within a decade. Unless something unprecedented happens, like a nuclear winter.

Other s**t happens too. Things dry out faster, but that may be due to water mining, fracking etc etc.

I've already seen it change crop production and yields in Australia and we've lost a percentage of the national herd (cattle mostly but also sheep.) The wheat yield this year will be low, the storms we've had this year in Northern NSW have actually impacted bread and milk production.

That article is a positive and has some encouraging data but things are already going a bit haywire.

What worries me is as a byproduct of what is happening in the east, WA is graduallly becoming dryer, pushing marginal farmland towards the coast, so even though CBH (central grain recievers) are still predicting large harvests, gradually the land available to harvest decreases as larger sections of the wheatbelt (Geraldton to Esperance) gradually become less proficient

Also, fair play on your knowledge of how weather affects the yield there too ferball , Landline should be offering you a job

 

[ferball]

What worries me is as a byproduct of what is happening in the east, WA is graduallly becoming dryer, pushing marginal farmland towards the coast, so even though CBH (central grain recievers) are still predicting large harvests, gradually the land available to harvest decreases as larger sections of the wheatbelt (Geraldton to Esperance) gradually become less proficient

Also, fair play on your knowledge of how weather affects the yield there too ferball , Landline should be offering you a job

Cheers.

Yeah its a worry about the way the heat is increasing the desertification.

Did you ever hear about the way the Rabbit fence changes the weather over there?



Crazy idea if true.

Living on Earth: Fencing the Weather

In an attempt to stop the westward spread of crop-consuming wild rabbits, Australia put a fence across an almost 2,000 mile stretch of the outback. The fence didn’t stop the rabbits, but it’s caused an interesting phenomenon: the weather is different on each side of the fence. Host Bruce...

www.loe.org

At Australia’s Bunny Fence, Variable Cloudiness Prompts Climate Study (Published 2007)

A fence across the Australian outback has unintentionally allowed scientists to study the effects of land use on regional climates.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Val Keating]

Imagine if they let Biden debate Trump? It’d be a bloodbath. Trumps a moron, he says the wrong thing all the time, like that magnets stop working if you pour water on them, but he’ll make Biden look stupid if they let Biden near him.

 

[Reagan Smash]

 

[rickety]

Imagine if they let Biden debate Trump? It’d be a bloodbath. Trumps a moron, he says the wrong thing all the time, like that magnets stop working if you pour water on them, but he’ll make Biden look stupid if they let Biden near him.

It’d be well worth the comedic value alone

 

[ferball]

What a choice hey. A warmongering, racist dotard and an oompa loompa coloured, kid ****ing thief.

Yay America.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Imagine if they let Biden debate Trump? It’d be a bloodbath. Trumps a moron, he says the wrong thing all the time, like that magnets stop working if you pour water on them, but he’ll make Biden look stupid if they let Biden near him.

No, he won't. Trump is a moron and Biden isn't. Biden's just old but he probably knows about magnets and roughly when airports started being used.

I simply don't understand how you can say that Trump would make Biden look stupid - they're about 50 IQ points apart. One malicious sledge doesn't mean he's the better debater.

 

[Val Keating]

No, he won't. Trump is a moron and Biden isn't. Biden's just old but he probably knows about magnets and roughly when airports started being used.

I simply don't understand how you can say that Trump would make Biden look stupid - they're about 50 IQ points apart.

Biden has dementia. It’s pretty obvious.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Biden has dementia. It’s pretty obvious.

Rubbish. That's the line Trumpies have perpetuated to deflect from their own moron's shortcomings. Google any of Biden's last 10 speeches and you'll find none confirm your diagnosis of dementia.

I agree that Biden is too old and he is having makes some senior moments (but he always had a speech issue). It is ridiculous that he is running again. But if he only has Trump to beat in a debate, he's home.

 

[Val Keating]

Rubbish. That's the line Trumpies have perpetuated to deflect from their own moron's shortcomings. Google any of Biden's last 10 speeches and you'll find none confirm your diagnosis of dementia.

I agree that Biden is too old and he is having makes some senior moments (but he always had a speech issue). It is ridiculous that he is running again. But if he only has Trump to beat in a debate, he's home.

He can’t process thoughts quick enough to debate Trump. Trump fights dirty too, so it doesn’t matter if he’s right or wrong to the average person, they only care if he’s funny and nasty.

Biden is cooked. His disapproval rating is just under 60%. I think the Democrats will remove him before the election.

 

[Val Keating]

Love Gillis. Getting cancelled from SNL was the best thing that happened to him. Spewing I missed him when he was in Oz.