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[VDS66]

Great attitude. Ive got some pills that will grow an extra inch for you then. No dont question them, that would be UNAUSTRALYAN.

That's just a stupid and simplistic reply that totally misses the point.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Interestingly, the people of Waringah voted in favour yet Abbot didn't.

Surely they are there to represent the will of the people and not their personal views...

And likewise some ALP blokes in Sydney openly admitted they would not be voting in accordance with the wishes of their western suburbs based constituents.

Are they representatives?

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

However they still did a lot more than the labs did in their six years.

did they though ? to me all they did was waste $122m on a postal vote to tell us what we already knew that the public supported the change ... yes Labor sat on it while they were in power but it was a liberal government that put the amendment in to not allow SSM ... we could go back and forth and tally who did what and who didnt do what all the way back to Edmund Barton but i rather look at the now and if the Greens were in power we would have had SSM the week they were sworn in .. if Labor were in power we would have had SSM in their first year .. the libs in power they delayed delayed wasted money then attempted to delay again then when it finally passes sit back and congratulate themselves for it

 

[st_trav_ofWA]

At least the no voters can't turn around and "blah blah blah, how dare they do this , its not what the people want blah blah god and stuff "
It IS what the people want.

it was pretty widly know the majority supported SSM ... the job of a politician is to have the ear of the people in their area .. it the politician doesnt know what the people he or she represents want then they need to look at what it is they are actually doing.. the postal vote was purely for the libs to try and keep the religious conservitives happy that they had a chance to keep australia backwards... equallity is a human right the public shouldnt need to be consulted on the implementation of a human right .. if thats the case wheres my postal vote on what we should do to the people on Manus ?

 

[Kildonan]

I, like most people, thought the vote was a massive waste of money but at least it legitimised the decision as both the will of the parliament and the people.

Bit too much backslapping for my liking from the politicians today though, they were slow on the uptake about the issue

I think the Libs had gone past denying that it was inevitable, but required a mandate (albeit a costly one) to justify the decision to their conservative supporters.

Australia is probably the only country where the Conservatives and the Liberals are encompassed within the one party

 

[Premium]

I can't understand why Mick' McGuane is not a coach in the AFL , he would be great assistant coach for our team - any reason why he is not / has he upset someone.

 

[luca77]

I can't understand why Mick' McGuane is not a coach in the AFL , he would be great assistant coach for our team - any reason why he is not / has he upset someone.

Runs the length of the ground to kick a goal by himself? Clearly not a team player. Upset 17 other players that day maybe?

 

[gringo2011]

I think the Libs had gone past denying that it was inevitable, but required a mandate (albeit a costly one) to justify the decision to their conservative supporters.

Australia is probably the only country where the Conservatives and the Liberals are encompassed within the one party

Yeah there was good story on four corners about the factions in the Liberals with the old school conservatives and the more neo liberal economic liberals.

The old school conservatives were going around mosques and churches drumming up support for the hard right while the more individualist Liberals seem to be courting the inner city wealthy who don't want to pay taxes for the benefit of others.

The US started the neo liberal ideals of individualism in their version of the conservatives as did Thatcher in Britain. They were old fashioned keep the ship steady parties who adopted the radical financial policies as a way of appealing to the rich. I read an interesting article on how their Democrats took up financial contributions from big business and lost their way, it was pretty convincing that they had ruined their brand with it.

 

[StCicatriz]

I can't understand why Mick' McGuane is not a coach in the AFL , he would be great assistant coach for our team - any reason why he is not / has he upset someone.

Errr because he can't stay off the crack

 

[StCicatriz]

 

[SaintsSeptember]

The Liberals in the USA are slightly more left than ours, but their right are far further right.

I think the Libs had gone past denying that it was inevitable, but required a mandate (albeit a costly one) to justify the decision to their conservative supporters.

Australia is probably the only country where the Conservatives and the Liberals are encompassed within the one party

I think the political average in the USA is probably further right than in Australia, but also the extremes are probably far further right.

 

[AFLOnline]

Got a German shep pup a couple weeks ago

Named him billings

Shit name is it?

Didn't think so

 

[Marlo]

Got a German shep pup a couple weeks ago

Named him billings

Shit name is it?

Didn't think so

Fitting if you didn't get pet insurance with the impending hip dysplasia.


Shit that's a little dark, sorry. Best of luck with ya lil pup.

 

[luca77]

Got a German shep pup a couple weeks ago

Named him billings

Shit name is it?

Didn't think so

Will be lots of dogs named Gresh and Coff in a couple of years is my tip. And maybe babies too.

 

[AFLOnline]

Fitting if you didn't get pet insurance with the impending hip dysplasia.


Shit that's a little dark, sorry. Best of luck with ya lil pup.

Legit Took him to the vets the day after we picked him up (drove to Sydney Melbourne cup day) and yep of course he had the early signs if hip displacia AND we were getting insurance that night too just to add salt into the wound they wouldn't cover it as it had already been diagnosed by the vet.

Was only $500 though. More than happy to fork out some dough if it means a happy pain free life for billings. I don't mind spending money on the dog either

Will be lots of dogs named Gresh and Coff in a couple of years is my tip. And maybe babies too.

Haha I wanted to name him gresh. Found out later on a bloke at work already has a hound named gresh

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I think the Libs had gone past denying that it was inevitable, but required a mandate (albeit a costly one) to justify the decision to their conservative supporters.

Australia is probably the only country where the Conservatives and the Liberals are encompassed within the one party

Its a stretch to say that the "no voters" were conservative Liberal supporters. For starters there would be plenty of people who are devout Catholics who wouldn't necessarily be tied to a particular political party.

Places like Dandenong and Noble Park ( Victoria ) are in a safe Labor seat where the "No" vote was strong. From memory the Demographic is something like 25% Catholic, maybe 9% Muslem.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Fitting if you didn't get pet insurance with the impending hip dysplasia.


Shit that's a little dark, sorry. Best of luck with ya lil pup.

The don't ALL get it. Some of the ones bred for shows are bad though, because the swept back look they like is sort of associated with it.
One of mine was through the police department, sort of more of a stout build, but even she's getting arthritis as she gets older. Have to try to keep them light by diet. ( Stupid mutt gets a gets a Cortisone shot for it then feels better and goes stupid jumping off things ).

 

[CursingFijian]

Blake Acres
Jade Gresham
Blade Acsham

 

[Marlo]

The don't ALL get it. Some of the ones bred for shows are bad though, because the swept back look they like is sort of associated with it.
One of mine was through the police department, sort of more of a stout build, but even she's getting arthritis as she gets older. Have to try to keep them light by diet. ( Stupid mutt gets a gets a Cortisone shot for it then feels better and goes stupid jumping off things ).

I got love for all dogs. From what I can see though, pure bred dogs are all over the shop.

They've got the same problem as the Irish. They've got a small regressive gene pool, yet keep reproducing within.

 

[CursingFijian]

https://www.geekwire.com/2017/boein...rg-says-hell-beat-spacex-mars-elon-musk-says/

Boeing CEO says he’ll beat SpaceX to Mars; Elon Musk says ‘Do it’

An artist’s conception shows NASA’s Space Launch System in flight. (NASA Illustration)
So what does SpaceX CEO Elon Musk think of Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg’s claim that the first people to set foot on Mars will arrive on a Boeing rocket? “Do it,” Musk tweeted, in one of many two-word comebacks that might have come to mind.

The latest round of media jousting started when CNBC’s Jim Cramer brought up Mars during an interview with Muilenburg. “Who’s going to get a man on Mars first, you or Elon Musk?” Cramer asked.

In response, Muilenburg touted the Space Launch System, the heavy-lift rocket that Boeing is helping NASA build for deep-space missions.

“We’re going to take a first test flight in 2019, and we’re going to do a slingshot mission around the moon,” he said. “Eventually, we’re going to go to Mars, and I firmly believe the first person that sets foot on Mars will get there on a Boeing rocket.”

Muilenburg said pretty much the same thing last year during an industry conference in Chicago, but since then, Musk has laid out a vision that calls for sending settlers to Mars on SpaceX’s yet-to-be-built monster spaceship starting in the 2020s.

If Musk and NASA stick to their current schedules, the first bootprints on the Martian surface would be left by folks arriving on a SpaceX rocket as much as a decade before the Space Launch System sends a spaceship there.

SpaceX’s Elon Musk and Boeing’s Dennis Muilenburg have something of a space rivalry going on. (Elon Musk via Twitter; Dennis Muilenburg via Boeing)
Is Musk’s response a dare? A space-race smackdown? Maybe. But the billionaire has always said his main goal in life is to help make humanity a multiplanet species by facilitating cities on Mars. Taken in that light, the “Do It” tweet may well be Musk’s way of saying that he’s glad for anyone else to be taking the move to Mars as seriously as he is.

That’s how John Gardi, an engineer and SpaceX fan who anticipated Musk’s hyperloop design in 2013, chooses to see the exchange. “You win either way, @elonmusk!” Gardi said in his tweeted response. “You can only lose if NOBODY goes to Mars!”

Meanwhile, Boeing and SpaceX are enmeshed in a shorter-term rivalry, to finish work on the space taxis that they’re building to transport NASA astronauts to and from the International Space Station.

The current schedules call for SpaceX to conduct a crewed demonstration flight with its Dragon capsule next August, while Boeing plans the first crewed flight of its Starliner space taxi in November 2018. But those schedules have been shifting to the right for years, so it’s too early to call the race.

The first to deliver astronauts to the space station will win a U.S. flag that was left aboard the outpost in 2011 by the last space shuttle crew. May the best team win? I prefer to look at it the way Gardi does: In this space race, may all teams win.

 

[CursingFijian]

If Musk was the driving force behind settling Mars how do you think humanity would celebrate him? Rename the planet? String him up a ten foot pole?

How long before the Saints play a game there?

 

[Nutsngum]

That's just a stupid and simplistic reply that totally misses the point.

Go re-read what you wrote originally . Your point is that my opinion is an "australian ideal of cutting down tall poppies" which was a garbage assessment of my critical idea of Musk. Questioning things that people do is NEVER a bad thing. Whether or not Musk is doing good things as far as pushing technological advancements is not the point I was making. I WAS saying that total faith in such people is foolish. Dont accuse me of missing your point when you yourself cant grasp mine in the first place.

 

[VDS66]

If Musk was the driving force behind settling Mars how do you think humanity would celebrate him? Rename the planet? String him up a ten foot pole?

How long before the Saints play a game there?

That would be cool. We could get Mars Bars as our major sponsor.

Boom!

 

[gringo2011]

https://www.geekwire.com/2017/boein...rg-says-hell-beat-spacex-mars-elon-musk-says/

Boeing CEO says he’ll beat SpaceX to Mars; Elon Musk says ‘Do it’

An artist’s conception shows NASA’s Space Launch System in flight. (NASA Illustration)
So what does SpaceX CEO Elon Musk think of Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg’s claim that the first people to set foot on Mars will arrive on a Boeing rocket? “Do it,” Musk tweeted, in one of many two-word comebacks that might have come to mind.

The latest round of media jousting started when CNBC’s Jim Cramer brought up Mars during an interview with Muilenburg. “Who’s going to get a man on Mars first, you or Elon Musk?” Cramer asked.

In response, Muilenburg touted the Space Launch System, the heavy-lift rocket that Boeing is helping NASA build for deep-space missions.

“We’re going to take a first test flight in 2019, and we’re going to do a slingshot mission around the moon,” he said. “Eventually, we’re going to go to Mars, and I firmly believe the first person that sets foot on Mars will get there on a Boeing rocket.”

Muilenburg said pretty much the same thing last year during an industry conference in Chicago, but since then, Musk has laid out a vision that calls for sending settlers to Mars on SpaceX’s yet-to-be-built monster spaceship starting in the 2020s.

If Musk and NASA stick to their current schedules, the first bootprints on the Martian surface would be left by folks arriving on a SpaceX rocket as much as a decade before the Space Launch System sends a spaceship there.

SpaceX’s Elon Musk and Boeing’s Dennis Muilenburg have something of a space rivalry going on. (Elon Musk via Twitter; Dennis Muilenburg via Boeing)
Is Musk’s response a dare? A space-race smackdown? Maybe. But the billionaire has always said his main goal in life is to help make humanity a multiplanet species by facilitating cities on Mars. Taken in that light, the “Do It” tweet may well be Musk’s way of saying that he’s glad for anyone else to be taking the move to Mars as seriously as he is.

That’s how John Gardi, an engineer and SpaceX fan who anticipated Musk’s hyperloop design in 2013, chooses to see the exchange. “You win either way, @elonmusk!” Gardi said in his tweeted response. “You can only lose if NOBODY goes to Mars!”

Meanwhile, Boeing and SpaceX are enmeshed in a shorter-term rivalry, to finish work on the space taxis that they’re building to transport NASA astronauts to and from the International Space Station.

The current schedules call for SpaceX to conduct a crewed demonstration flight with its Dragon capsule next August, while Boeing plans the first crewed flight of its Starliner space taxi in November 2018. But those schedules have been shifting to the right for years, so it’s too early to call the race.

The first to deliver astronauts to the space station will win a U.S. flag that was left aboard the outpost in 2011 by the last space shuttle crew. May the best team win? I prefer to look at it the way Gardi does: In this space race, may all teams win.

Dennis Alienburg looks like he'll just jump back in his ship.

 

[VDS66]

Go re-read what you wrote originally . Your point is that my opinion is an "australian ideal of cutting down tall poppies" which was a garbage assessment of my critical idea of Musk. Questioning things that people do is NEVER a bad thing. Whether or not Musk is doing good things as far as pushing technological advancements is not the point I was making. I WAS saying that total faith in such people is foolish. Dont accuse me of missing your point when you yourself cant grasp mine in the first place.

Um no, you said you had a problem with Musk because some of his ideas (in your opinion) are bullshit. And people just blindly lap them up because of the image.

That's what i was replying to. Pretty straightforward.