Autopsy Rd 4 - Massive choke - Bottomed out again.

[Stig O'Hara]

gotta say charlie looks rusty as shit..........

In the second quarter looked like he was leading wide from the square, McG stayed deep and H was a decoy, and it worked.

Then footy.

 

[brixyblue]

Our game plan is to play to survive not play to win

 

[Blue and Blue]

I am going to say this again.
That is the first time I have seen all our young guys really hurting at the situation.
Mark my words it is a defining moment.

The players lost the game all on their own. They know it. They werent beaten, they blew it.

I would say that what the coach needs to tell them is not game plans. They have had that enough. Its to ask them if they want it enough to hurt physically so much in a game so that they dont hurt mentally after the game
Because he has been their dad long enough now and they have to leave the nest.

 

[HBF]

Murphy just about missed his boot at the end! Blimey..

Have no idea what he was thinking. Surely you have a ping from where he was.

 

[SkyhorseTamer]

He told his talls to come further up the ground after the first quarter. I'm positive he did not tell them all to do it at the same time. Every team has talls come up the ground. The last man left wasn't positioning themselves properly. I'd suggest that McKay was the offender this week. Work rate was well down.

Kicking long to our talls is part of our game plan. Take advantage of your strengths and all.

I just don't get it at the moment. We surely worked on our structure and game plan all off season and if it were leading to playing 4 talls we should look far more cohesive than that and if it was the structure we like why haven't we used it every week. It's actually starting to smell really disorganised.

 

[JuddyBuddy]

No
People can own their posts
As the football department must own their performance

Most people are just having a vent. Don't take it too seriously.

 

[gandaal]

i asked first.
if u think the list isn't at least 50% of the issue that's fine. I disagree.

Coming on here today all i could see was Bolton hate but just as much criticism has to be directed at the list balance. If we have any injuries are cooked.

Frankly, I have concerns about Bolts as well but I just don't see how he can take 100% of the blame.

There are issues with list balance no doubt. Our late selections and rookies picks have been poor to say the least during the SOS era. We haven't targeted small defenders or small forwards, and most of the players we have selected for those roles were mids we tried to convert into those roles.

That said even with the list being the way it is we've still made some appalling selection decision, and structured our team in such a way that our talented players dont have a chance to show off their skills.

 

[thylacine60]

I think we have been sold a load of shit to be honest.

SOS just does these tricky draft moves to deflect from the fact the list is still shit

can I keep this post?

 

[HBF]

It looks to me that Paddy Dow lacks some confidence in his kicking. He can get the ball there is no doubt about that but his kicking....

I said in the game day thread we need to get Craig Bradley to the the club to help out with his kicking.

 

[jezzajay]

Deadset you would think we were beaten by 10+ goals by what I’m reading in here. It’s frustrating I know to go down like that but it isn’t the end of the world by no means.
If only Kreuzer was in today.

Move on.

 

[TheCoach16]

not you, champion......

I don’t think you’ve ever “championed” me... you’re obviously more upset about this loss than you’re letting on.

 

[Funk]

Do you guys mind if I melt with you? 2 minutes ago I was about to be 8/9 for my tipping this week.

Edit: 7/9, Hawthorn let me down too

You’re welcome. Sadly there’ll probably be plenty of other opportunities to join us in 2019.

Effin dumbest football I’ve ever seen.

Led by Murphy with 2 complete brain fades in last 90 seconds.

 

[ETET]

St Kilda, Gold Coast, Brisbane have all improved this year...and yet here we are in that oh so familiar position, dead ******* last.

You have to admire the Gold Coast... loose both captains and one of their highest draft choices for 8 weeks and go 1 and 3. No excuses at their end.

 

[thylacine60]

I’ve said it before and I’ll likely say it again... It’s tough loving this club sometimes.

sure is

 

[Stig O'Hara]

No
People can own their posts
As the football department must own their performance

Et tu, Bulldog??

We got done on one kick, not 15 goals.

 

[thylacine60]

I did not think you’ve ever “championed” me... you’re obviously more upset about this loss than you’re letting on.

numb is not a great place to post from...........

 

[btdg]

I honestly think that loss, in that manner, was better for us than a win.

We played awfully throughout that match. Our disposal was putrid. Our structures were awful. Our fitness was terrible - we blew up 10 minutes into the third quarter and barely scored after that. Our finishing was atrocious. Our young players have glaring deficiencies that need to be exposed and fixed. Our list management has been terrible.

We need a week or two or 3 of the harshest scrutiny imaginable. Put the young players in the media flames - Fow needs to be humiliated for his efforts. So does McKay, Setterfield, Curnow, etc The leaders need to cop it too - Ed could have won us the game, Cripps could have iced it and his opppent kicked the game winner. A furnace has to be out over the place. Our players. The coach. The assistants. Our player development. Our list management (seriously - we are this bad and we traded our first and second round picks next year?).

Too often over the past few years we have got away with losing and losing badly. Excuses have been made for age, for injury, whatever. Now we need the scrutiny, need that burning fire to cleanse and purify.

Whatever survives the other side will be harder, tougher, better. What burns in the flames is arguably what is holding us back anyway.

Had that Bowes kick gone the other side of the post, had Curnow kicked a goal at the end - a win would have disguised one of the most incompetent Carlton games in a long while (and its a pretty long list). We'd be raving about Cripps (despite his glaring errors), Weitering, Jones, Mcgovern's second quarter (and not the other 3), Walsh, etc.

A loss brings the scrutiny of the AFL upon us. It won't be pretty. Bring it on...

 

[La Dispute]

E. Curnow missing from five metres out and Murphy’s scrubbed kick with a couple of seconds left were worse than Dow’s decision to bring the ball inboard.

Poor situational awareness, and a bit of a brain fade, but Dow will learn.

 

[Jimthegreat]

Son in tears. Have no idea what to say to him.

What did I want - I wanted structure and composure. I got none of it. Paddy Dow - who I think will be a fine footballer - sums up where we are at the moment. Lots of effort but not skills and no composure.

Putting aside Bolts, David Teague is proving to be an overrated forwards coach.


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As a forwards coach you are at the complete mercy of the rabble up the field. He's one who can coach and the one and only reason McGovern came to Carlton.

 

[Drexl 31]

The real scary thought is losing Cripps.

 

[Cliffords Blues]

Supporters on here are correct, our skills have been absolutely disgraceful.
And yet we very well could have won all 4 games we lost.

If Bolts has 'lost the player', would we not be getting belted on the scoreboard?
Swap some players out for better players that showed some form in the 2's, Kruz in particular, and the wins will come.

We are just about there, don't lose your sh*t this early in the season.
A team mainly built up with young players just need to learn how to win.
It will happen, we are so close.

 

[Red Bull]

Most people are just having a vent. Don't take it too seriously.

I couldn’t give a flying , JB.
I think a good vent after a performance like that is perfectly reasonable.
It’s the perennial defenders here that think they must protect the club at all costs that make me laugh ...

 

[RudyBlue]

Was that Weiters talking to the boys after the game while Crippa was being interviewed?

Be still my beating heart.

 

[rp84]

Have no idea what he was thinking. Surely you have a ping from where he was.

He was pretty decent until then. Would any other 200 game midfielder in the comp not get a viable shot off from there?

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

History is going to judge our dalliance with GWS as one that cost us time and quality selections. I know a lot will disagree.

Judd......