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[USAEagle]

Wet Toast Looked Good

The Dockers Guernseys ought to be crimson with a Hammer and Sickle on the chest, and they ought to be called the Fremantle KGB.

Poor Duzza...should have stood his ground.

They really have some tossers over there.

Onya St Kilda.

 

[jod23]

Originally posted by USAEagle
Wet Toast Looked Good

The Dockers Guernseys ought to be crimson with a Hammer and Sickle on the chest, and they ought to be called the Fremantle KGB.

Poor Duzza...should have stood his ground.

They really have some tossers over there.

Onya St Kilda.

They spend more time hating us than they do supporting there own club. I think what annoys them the most is that we dont really hate Freo like they hate us, because we pity them rather than hate them.

I really do feel sorry for Freo supporters, there really just a good bunch of people who are poorly misguided. Walk towards the Blue and Gold light....

 

[bunsen burner]

Re: Re: Read this Crap...

Originally posted by jod23
They spend more time hating us than they do supporting there own club.

This is why I don't go and troll on their board. Doing so would just even up the contest. The more they are ignored, the bigger that chip gets. The joke (and chip) is squarely on their shoulders.

 

[Mead]

lol, i was browsing dockerland on sat night, and happened to see Duzza's post appear. At first I thought I must be hallucinating, but then i spent a long time laughing very hard and waiting for the shiznit to hit the fan.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Originally posted by Dutchey
The thought of those mongrels finishing above us this season gives me absolute nightmares,not to metion the swag of money I have invested on this result

As much as they bag us, reality always comes back to hurt them.

 

[GoEagles]

I'd say the Dockers are still suffering from the Derby hangover. Remember they lost about 20 games in a row after they beat us by 1 point in 2000.

 

[RogerMellie]

QUOTE]They spend more time hating us than they do supporting there own club. I think what annoys them the most is that we dont really hate Freo like they hate us, because we pity them rather than hate them. [/QUOTE]

Mate, there are many Eagles fans who despise Freo with a passion (I know quite a few) and vice-versa, and to be honest, I really don't think that is such a bad thing. Nothing wrong with some good old-fashioned footy tribalism is there? Of course your mob has the wood on us in terms of past success and currently being above us on the ladder. But surely if and when Freo move up the ranks in the future and start to square up the ledger with big brother, you and other Eagles fans aren't going to be there wishing us well. And nor would any Freo supporter expect you to.

 

[bunsen burner]

Originally posted by RogerMellie
But surely if and when Freo move up the ranks in the future and start to square up the ledger with big brother, you and other Eagles fans aren't going to be there wishing us well.

That is a very big IF. There will be times when the Dockers will have a better team than the Eagles, but the chances are that the ledger will never be squared.

The Eagles are a successful club. They have already won two flags and have plenty of cash. Fremantle haven't been successful and don't have any money. This pattern is unlikely to change.

Maybe if the two clubs started at the same time, it is possible that they would have an equal supporter base, similar financial strength and quite possibly, similar on field success. Coming in later meant that Freo has a much smaller supporter pool, as many potential supporters were already aligned with the much successful WCE.

To combat this problem, the Dockers CHOSE to go down the poor path. They developed a culture where they are the underdog and always stick together in hope of beating those silver-spooned Eagles. I don't think many Freo supporters can disagree about this statement.

Now, let's have a look at the relevence of the culture that the Dockers chose to promote:

Many of the Melbourne teams either fit into either the Eagles stereotype (LandRovers and Chardy), or the Dockers stereotype (the back against the wall underdog). The teams that fit into the Eagles stereotype are Carlton, Essendon, Melbourne and Richmond. The teams that fit into the Dockers stereotype are StKilda, Western Bulldogs and the kangaroos.

Football is about winning flags and those teams that fit into the Eagles stereotype have won plenty (well over 50). Those teams that fit into the Dockers stereotype haven't won many (less than 10).

I know what culture I would rather have my club follow. Crack open the Chardy!

 

[Mr Eagle]

I think one thing needs to be clarified in this tribal feud:

I like Fremantle.
I do not like Fremantle fans.

Freo I would happily give more open support too if I believed that Freo fans were likely to reciprocate it back to the Eagles. Unfortunately Freo fans (as a group, I'm talking generally here) have traditionally spent more of their time trying to have a ****ing contest with West Coast rather than focusing on more important issues like the club's performance against all 15 other clubs. Freo's poor start in the league led some of its fans to develop large chips on their shoulder about "Big Brother" West Coast, and few seem to have been able to lose them. Those who have seen past this narrow perspective (and are in harmony with Chris Connolly's approach) are quite easy to get along with football-wise, and are happy to throw their support behind either WA team in any given (non-derby) round.

So every time I see Freo lose, I feel sorry for the club because they need a change of fortune and per se I don't mind seeing them win, but at the same time I find myself smiling at the thought of all the Freo fans I know suffering...

 

[Captain Random]

Fair points Rog. I don't mind the Dockers and all, but they haven't really inflicted any serious pain on my team so that's probably why. The capacity is certainly there - for example, Essendon must die - just not Freo for some reason.

Out of interest - and this is a serious question - are there any other "traditional" rivals for the Dockers? Is there any other team that you lot despise? And why?

As an aside on Dockerland, the most interesting development in the last 24 hours has been how some Dockers supporters have gone from bragging about their terrific list of youngsters (and how poor the Eagles' list is in comparison) to actually calling for a player cull. I've heard of "chocolates to boiled lollies" but that's just ridiculous.

 

[dbhattarai]

USAEagle starting up a thread about Dockerland?!?... I mean, who would have thought.

Whats that, number 5 now?

Get over it mate.

 

[RogerMellie]

Keep those sweeping statements coming, bunsen. Freo CHOSE to go down the poor path? Pull the other one, mate. Being based in a port city coupled with our lack of success both in the league but more importantly relative to that of West Coast's is why the public perceives Freo as the "back against the wall underdog". You seem to think that the powers that be (were) prior to Freo's inception had one of two options and chose to tick the chip-on-the-shoulder blue collar box. In a two horse town I guess it's inevitable that one team will be lumped with one false stereotype (although most Eagles fans I know would take a flagon of Buronga Ridge Fruity Lexia over a bottle of chardonnay anyday) and the other will cop the opposite end of the spectrum (yes, we are all Kevin Reynolds-worshipping stevedores). So let's support our respective teams but not expect mutual love and admiration.

 

[dbhattarai]

And just to reply to a few of your points, Eagles fans hate the Dockers just as much. I used to support Eagles and they were my 2nd team til this year but now, its all changed. Why... because all my friends support the Eagles and the constant abuse they throw at the Dockers would make any Docker fan hate the Eagles in return.

 

[ozzult]

I hate people who switch teams.

 

[Captain Random]

Originally posted by dbhattarai
Why... because all my friends support the Eagles and the constant abuse they throw at the Dockers would make any Docker fan hate the Eagles in return.

How is West Coast responsible for your mates?

 

[theBlueCardinal]

We can't blame the Shockers supporters for everything though...it all comes back to the Damian Dumb coaching appointment etc when they needed real direction to become successful. If their board made the right decision back then after the Neesham debacle, their supporters would be driving to the ground in their Landrovers by now. Does anyone know what car Chris Connolly drives?

 

[RogerMellie]

A Hummer I think.

 

[bunsen burner]

Originally posted by RogerMellie
You seem to think that the powers that be (were) prior to Freo's inception had one of two options and chose to tick the chip-on-the-shoulder blue collar box.

You got that right.

You only have to go to some of the Freo websites to realise that the Dockers (the club and it's supporters) have chosen this path. I can't count the number of Dockers supporters who refer to Eagles supporters as the "Chardy set", and spend all their time worrying what the Eagles are doing rather than their own club.

The public percieve it this way because the Dockers presented themselves in this way.

 

[spud]

i hate chardy

 

[kuepper]

People always generalise Americans as arrogant, stupid bastards - anyone know why?

 

[Mr Eagle]

Originally posted by kuepper
People always generalise Americans as arrogant, stupid bastards - anyone know why?

Because the media uses a highly selective view of the total US population in order to promote negative stereotypes regarding Americans in our minds, thereby feeding the desire for superiority that is inherent in basic human existence. It is only when you actually meet Americans that you realise that they are not quite as bad as you might think (sure, they're different...but not THAT bad...)

 

[USAEagle]

USAEagle starting up a thread about Dockerland?!?... I mean, who would have thought.

Whats that, number 5 now?

Get over it mate.

I only post to get a response.

I read both forums, and honestly, the gridiron fans of the US South Eastern Conference (Universities)driving around in their big Ford 350s with three rifles on a rack in the back window (and that is NOT a stereotype...I lived in Louisiana for a year) are feral but they have nothing on the Dockerland mob. I think it is hilarious.

At last, people are starting to notice me!

 

[Belgarion]

Point of clarification, and strictly speaking for myself. I don't hate Fremantle and I don't hate any dockers fans.

As a matter of fact, living now in Brisbane and previously in Melbourne, I don't know any docker fan, so why should I hate them?

I've never visited any docker forum, and it amuses me to read so many docker fans coming here. Many more docker fans come here than supporters of other teams.

Belgarion

 

[S.J Rollin]

Originally posted by USAEagle
The Dockers Guernseys ought to be crimson with a Hammer and Sickle on the chest, and they ought to be called the Fremantle KGB.

I would prefer the Docker Gurnsey to be decked in the Stars & Stripes and we call ouselves the Fremantle C.I.A.

That way... somebody from the inside could have picked off Drummy from behind the grassy knoll near Subi Centro.

They could then attract a legion of obese, ignorant and arrogant fans... on second thoughts, I think they should leave them up the road.

 

[The Spornstar]

Originally posted by bunsen burner



Many of the Melbourne teams either fit into either the Eagles stereotype (LandRovers and Chardy), or the Dockers stereotype (the back against the wall underdog). The teams that fit into the Eagles stereotype are Carlton, Essendon, Melbourne and Richmond.

Richmond??? I dunno if you know Richmond that well but their background and supporter base are definitely working class. Swap Richmond with Hawthorn.