Richards to Sydney. Done!

[Colin D'Cops]

If you had watched Ted play over the last 18 months, you would know he isn't in dire need of midfielders dropping back to help him win his position. Sydney's midfield certainly does do it...
...Suggesting he at least partly relies on getting a chop out from other midfielders really undersells just how good he is.

You just admitted that Sydney's midfield does do it (drop back), and then go on by saying that even suggesting that is underselling him?

If it's the truth, which you have conceded, I don't see any reason to hide that fact.

 

[Pykie]

I'll try and explain it.

He believes the development people at your club, such as assistant coaches and high performance coaches, have had more influence than the "list manager" and thus should be the ones getting praised. Meaning he (Richards) wasn't up to scratch at our club, clearly required some further help and he looks to have gotten that with minimal effort from the list manager/head of recruiting.

Also believes he is made to look good in a very good side. When our back line was getting hammered when he first came to the club, he was getting the full force of it and seemed to struggle under pressure. Now though in a club that is discipline and has a midfield that can run both ways at Sydney, he is made to look good with good structures. See Maxwell @ Collingwood and Gibson @ the Hawks for two prime examples.

All valid points.

Development coaches are one thing.

They still have to be developing players with enough natural ability, persistance and character to develop in such a way.

Kudo's to Sydney for this one. They obviously saw it in Ted.

Anyway you look at it, he looks like being an AA defender, huge win.


I'm sure if you developed Pears into a similar player, who was a similar pick, you'd be calling him the steal of his draft........... this is no different.

 

[DaSawx]

It's not even really about the midfielders dropping back per se.

With midfield control as well as they do, with Jack and Kennedy in career best form mixed with their usual suspects, the ball is coming back even slower than normal.

They've always been a tough team in the middle, they've gone up another notch this year.

 

[Colin D'Cops]

Development coaches are one thing.

Without reading too much further, yet, I disagree entirely with this statement.

Sure there are specified "development coaches" around in theory, but in practical terms there are many around who aid in the development of players.

 

[S120]

You just admitted that Sydney's midfield does do it (drop back), and then go on by saying that even suggesting that is underselling him?

If it's the truth, which you have conceded, I don't see any reason to hide that fact.

I said saying he relies on it is underselling him. He doesn't rely on it. He is a terrific one on one defender who can and does win his position without midfielders dropping back.

 

[Colin D'Cops]

I said saying he relies on it is underselling him. He doesn't rely on it. He is a terrific one on one defender who can and does win his position without midfielders dropping back.

He doesn't particularly "rely" on it, I don't think I have stated that, but certainly his midfielders and follow backmen (structures) are giving him a hand. As good teams should.

 

[S120]

Well said.

And on he trade, it's been a win win trade IMO. Dempsey and Lonergan are both good players who have been playing well this year when fit and Ted has slowly but truly become a wonderful and vitally important player for us. And it's fair to say it very nearly didn't happen for him too, given he was almost certainly on his way out of the club in the middle of 2010. LRT sustained an injury to free up a KPD spot and Ted stepped up after months in the 2's.

 

[SydneyPhilly]

I'll try and explain it.

He believes the development people at your club, such as assistant coaches and high performance coaches, have had more influence than the "list manager" and thus should be the ones getting praised. Meaning he (Richards) wasn't up to scratch at our club, clearly required some further help and he looks to have gotten that with minimal effort from the list manager/head of recruiting.

Also believes he is made to look good in a very good side. When our back line was getting hammered when he first came to the club, he was getting the full force of it and seemed to struggle under pressure. Now though in a club that is discipline and has a midfield that can run both ways at Sydney, he is made to look good with good structures. See Maxwell @ Collingwood and Gibson @ the Hawks for two prime examples.

All valid points.

Thankyou very much for that. Not often someone takes time out on here to say something other than 'troll' when someone asks them to reiterate the point.

If you had watched Ted play over the last 18 months, you would know he isn't in dire need of midfielders dropping back to help him win his position. Sydney's midfield certainly does do it and do it very well but with a lot of hard work in the gym and on the field, Ted is a supremely confident defender and that's the reason he has become such a consistent player.

Suggesting he at least partly relies on getting a chop out from other midfielders really undersells just how good he is.

I don't think he's saying Teddy needs midfielders to drop back per se, more that the midfielders have become more accountable for their own men (thats our style after all) and that has helped SuperTed a lot.

Thats not to say that Ted hasn't done a stellar job on top forwards in this comp. I think the Dons supporters might be underselling Ted here a teeny tiny bit. Not suprised, since I'd undersell Jolly to make sure it looks as if we won the Jolly-Jetta trade.

 

[DMar]

Richards was close to best on for Sydney in the 2006 Grand Final Loss also, albeit in a different role.

 

[Ghost of Grinter]

Sydney big winners, good on them.

 

[PTizzle]

Fairly OTT bump but a good read, it's interesting how trades can work out.

Did Essendon really trade Pick 23 for Richard Cole? Didn't realise that, would have been a youngin back then so I didn't follow trade week as closely. But now that's a loss.

Think Dempsey and Lonergan are decent players and pick 19 for Richards at that stage was a good deal for the Dons.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Dempsey was probably BOG for us today. But it was obviously a bad trade in hindsight, good luck to Teddy and hopefully he will be AA FB.

 

[Paddywhackers]

Yep. Exactly what we have done.
And in effect lost a player who wanted to leave, and gained one who wants to play for us.

Now we just needs Haynes for pick 40 to come through and we can mark it down as a success.

If we get Pendlebury with pick 19, Marcuz's gf's sister better watch out

LOL pick 19 for Pendles would have been a dream.

 

[cash]

Happy with the trade.

Richards is a gun
Dempsey is well on the way.
Lonergan is a bit of grunt in the midfield and richard cole was a fatso. .

Think both parties are pretty happy.