Autopsy Round 12 - St Kilda defeats Melbourne

[Saintos The ITK]

I have nothing of substance to add to this thread but gee I like the happy banter in autopsy threads when the saints win.

Sorry to disappoint you Cowboy but that had some substance to it.
Have another go.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

If the afl are petty and vindictive enough to **** us over with a shit draw then they’re petty and vindictive enough to go at us with the umpires. And it shows.

 

[SG34]

Updating logos is the sort of shit that marketing teams do to justify their existence. Never useful.

It’s cheap and tacky. Nasty. Bring back the old one. Let’s tell the club.

 

[Sainter1873]

Clark had his best match for a while. I’ve never doubted his ability, but he can take a few weeks to get up and going. He has a skill set that few others on our list possess. Classy, tough and can create opportunities. Happy for him as he deserves a good run at it.

Fairly even performance and contributors across the board. We had a lot of uncontested possessions, matched them on the inside and our goal efficiency probably won us the match.

 

[bakes10]

Serious question, what's the difference between this and the bump that NWM copped?

 

[True Believer]

Probably the most valuable learning to come out of that game. I'd written him off - even on a small sample - but if he can regularly produce what he did yesterday, it is a game changer for Saints.

I think a lot of supporters make the same mistake when judging a young player, especially the tall ones, they judge them based on output. Aside from the absolute prodigies, judge them on the way they move. It's getting even worse given that so many young players now are coming into the game almost ready to go due to the evolution of the talent pathways. But at the base of it all, these are barely more than adolescent boys moving into competing with seasoned men, and I think a lot of people lose sight of that fact.

The smaller guys in some cases are ready to go, or close to it, but the taller kids are not. they haven't finished growing, and forget body mass and muscle definition, simple joint strength and endurance are below the level of those they are competing against! But one thing that is genetic and cannot be trained is movement, by which I mean reaction times, balance, agility and coordination - that is genetic and cannot be trained. It can be marginally improved, and certainly balance can be improved by increasing core and limb strength but watch how Keeler moves compared to say, Roma. If Keeler's ability to read the play and compete is even 75% of Roma's ability to do those things, he will be twice the player Roma is, simply because he will be physically capable of doing things that Roma cannot.

Keeler's physical traits make him something like a taller version of Hunter Clark, in terms of physical capabilities. That doesn't account for endurance and ability to read the play, but it is a huge leg up as an AFL footballer.

 

[aussierulesrules]

 

[Joffaboy]

Didn't see the first half yesterday, just watching it now.
In the space of 5 minutes
1. Clark gets free against for a perfect technique H&S when he had first hands on the ball
2. Wilkie gets slung in a dangerous tackle, head hits the ground and he gets pinged for HTB
3. NAZ gets taken out after he has kicked it forearm to the head, not even a free kick downfield
4.Carroll lays a tackle on Chandler slinging motion, head does not hit the ground, free kick to Melbourne.

Sorry but the umpiring is cooked, and that is best case scenario. After Parnell, something more sinister may have taken place.
As gringo brilliantly pointed out, they seem to be there just to throw hand grenades occasionally but not properly officiate.
It was an appalling display yesterday.

 

[Joffaboy]

Have to caveat above. Watched the second half live, and I thought the umpires were appalling, compared to the first half though it was fantastic.

 

[BucketsandBanger]

Did anyone else want to vomit everyone Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

40

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

referred to Melksham as 'Melky', Jesus Christ get a room.

 

[The Cobra]

Serious question, what's the difference between this and the bump that NWM copped?

The difference is JWeb knew how to execute old school perfectly and sent Simpkin into next week. That idiot yesterday couldn’t execute and fortunately just stunned NAS. Doubt the intent was any different - he is very fortunate he wasn’t very good at what he was trying to do.

 

[MUFASA12]

Nice waking up on a Monday morning without existential dread

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Didn't see the first half yesterday, just watching it now.
In the space of 5 minutes
1. Clark gets free against for a perfect technique H&S when he had first hands on the ball
2. Wilkie gets slung in a dangerous tackle, head hits the ground and he gets pinged for HTB
3. NAZ gets taken out after he has kicked it forearm to the head, not even a free kick downfield
4.Carroll lays a tackle on Chandler slinging motion, head does not hit the ground, free kick to Melbourne.

Sorry but the umpiring is cooked, and that is best case scenario. After Parnell, something more sinister may have taken place.
As gringo brilliantly pointed out, they seem to be there just to throw hand grenades occasionally but not properly officiate.
It was an appalling display yesterday.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

The difference is JWeb knew how to execute old school perfectly and sent Simpkin into next week. That idiot yesterday couldn’t execute and fortunately just stunned NAS. Doubt the intent was any different - he is very fortunate he wasn’t very good at what he was trying to do.

Concussion isn't black and white. It was severe enough that NAS had to be completely checked out. Another player may have been knocked out cold. ( Paddy McCartin would have for sure ).

 

[DougalHoward]

Did anyone else want to vomit everyone Jordan Lewis referred to Melksham as 'Melky', Jesus Christ get a room.

Jobe did the same on channel 7

 

[Saintbloke]

I don't really worry about umpiring, but after watching the replay, I thought the umpiring in that game was sub-standard, and speaking of sub-standard, the commentators on ABC radio sounded like the Melbourne cheer squad on the turps..

 

[saintbill]

Glad to see Clark have a good game. I have been tough on him in the past, but if we can stay on the park he is best 22 for sure. If he can somehow find the pill 25-30 a game he becomes a gun.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Did anyone else want to vomit everyone Jordan Lewis referred to Melksham as 'Melky', Jesus Christ get a room.

So unprofessional.
Even on the (very) odd occasion there actually is no commentary bias, they should not be referring to players by nicknames at all.
But it’s seriously not a good look when it’s former teammates doing it.

 

[Train12]

We have 2 players with noticeable one touch skills - Clark and Hall.

Makes such a difference when the pressure is on.

 

[bergholt]

So unprofessional.
Even on the (very) odd occasion there actually is no commentary bias, they should not be referring to players by nicknames at all.

Yeah, it just sounds so mediocre - "oh I'm mates with Jeremy Cameron so I call him Jezza"

 

[Mystifly]

No coincidence I reckon.

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Thank you for the new DP! Sick photo!

 

[jwikked]

So unprofessional.
Even on the (very) odd occasion there actually is no commentary bias, they should not be referring to players by nicknames at all.
But it’s seriously not a good look when it’s former teammates doing it.

I agree, it's also weird when the fans do it when talking about players

 

[ARCHIE66]

Maybe Clark still has the potential to have a late run in his career like a George Hewett

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George Hewett

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.7

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

10.3

5star

M

2.7

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

3.3

5star

D

13.8

3star

K

4.8

2star

HB

9.0

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

type. If he can get a good run at it I don’t see why not, doesn’t have many noticeable flaws other than his fitness.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Thank you for the new DP! Sick photo!

Yep. Great photo.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Well except the part where he leaves to go to Hawthorn.

If we can keep turning talls into top 10 compo picks after 8 years of service, I'll take it! We don't have a ridiculously large NGA like some, we're gonna need to bring in additional talent somehow.

Long live the top 10 compo I say.