Review Round 15 vs Bulldogs

[dirty2]

Motlop's 2 metre soccer in the forward 50 when he had a lot of room to pick up that ball was one of the softest things I've ever seen in the AFL.

Passed the buck to lycett. Soft.

 

[*PAF]

The problem with review threads is that many if not most posts focus on symptoms rather than cause. Player this played bad. Player that is unfit. Player this other should or should have not been picked, based on hindsight mind you.

IMO we will continue to be unreliable until the day that we start playing simple and basic structures, then add all the things we focus on such as contests, high press etc. They are the fine tuning not the other way around.

And for the Janus' out there if that is what we are supposed to do, then the message is not being delivered very well as we do the cream very well but the cake is neither here nor there and the players look confused in way too many games.
Even if the cake only goes missing in quarters here and there it still happens in way too many games.

 

[bos10]

Given the log jam around 8th on the ladder we will probably need 13 wins to guarantee a spot in the eight. That means we will need to win 6 from our last 8 games. That isn't going to happen. Loose the Showdown next week and it will be 6 from our last 7.

Perhaps Ken should be thinking about 2020 from here on in. We have nothing to loose because Ken thinking about 2019 clearly has not worked.

Sad thing is that game looked like our easiest win for the rest of the year!

Now we're looking forward to Crows, Brisbane, GWS, Richmond, Essendon & Sydney

After loss to dogs, making finals seems like fantasy

 

[JUSTWORK]

Sad thing is that game looked like our easiest win for the rest of the year!

Now we're looking forward to Crows, Brisbane, GWS, Richmond, Essendon & Sydney

After loss to dogs, making finals seems like fantasy

When Richmond win today, we will be a game behind them and two games of 7th. Richmond are now getting there players back.

We simply aren't playing Finals now. The talk for the rest of the year is now going to be how we are a "mathematical chance" we will win a couple of those games to keep in touch, but there will be an embarrassing loss or two thrown in there as well.

 

[SureBuddy]

Wines was an absolute joke yesterday, however there is one thing to give him credit for. He was clearly sent to Bont after quarter time and did somewhat nullify him. Bont was on 90 SuperCoach points at quarter time, completely unheard of. Only finished the game on 130.

With that being said 12 possessions for an entire game is disgraceful. He just looked like he didn’t care at all. 1 possession in the first quarter when we were getting smashed around the contest.

 

[TeeKray]

By the by, s**t team performances like last night are going to cost Boak the Brownlow.

 

[JUSTWORK]

By the by, **** team performances like last night are going to cost Boak the Brownlow.

Absolutely.

Boak is no chance, not because he hasn't been good enough but because there is another handful of games you can add to that already.

 

[morell]

Hammer - birdie
Boak - par
Clurey - par
Lycett - par
Burton - par
DBJ - bogey
Butters - bogey

Every other campaigner - Mulligan

 

[Duckimus Prime]

There was an interesting stat that was announced in the commentary in the 4th quarter. In Hinkley’s tenure as coach there has only been one occasion where Port has come back and won a game while being down by 2 goals or more, which was 6 years ago against West Coast where we overcame a 21 point 3rd quarter deficit.

Unless there's a bit more info missing from that stat, its just straight up crap.

Round 3 2013 Showdown, Crows led by 33 in the 3rd quarter. Port won.
Thats West Coast game.
Sydney in Round 13.
Round 19, overturned a 20 point lead in the last 5 minutes. You know, that Monfries goal.
Let Freo get out to a 24 point lead at half time in the semi Final in 2014.
Saints got out to a three goal lead in the third term in round 1 2016. Overran them to win by 6 goals.
There's three more in 2016 but they were in the first quarter, including the 97 point thumping of Brisbane.
There's a 25 point deficit just before half time against West Coast in Perth in 2017.
The Dogs got up by 12 in the last quarter in the first Ballarat game.
Sydney got out by more than 12 in the third quarter last year.

And I can't be bothered checking the rest of 2018 or this year.

Now most of those are running over an opponent in the third quarter, so we were closer than 2 goals at 3/4 time. But the Ballarat and last Showdown at AAMI games, had our opposition extend their leads in the last before we ran over them.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

By the by, **** team performances like last night are going to cost Boak the Brownlow.

Yet strangely enough Patrick Cripps will continue to get votes in similar Carlton performances.

 

[DSL64]

There was an interesting stat that was announced in the commentary in the 4th quarter. In Hinkley’s tenure as coach there has only been one occasion where Port has come back and won a game while being down by 2 goals or more, which was 6 years ago against West Coast where we overcame a 21 point 3rd quarter deficit.

Wines was deplorable tonight. Drop him to the Magpies and take Motlop with him. Overpaid fraudsters.

Our attack is abysmal. Groundhog day continues.

FARKEN

This isn't true...
You only have to go back to the last showdown at footy park.

Down by 20 point with 6 minutes to go & got up.
The famous Angus Monfries Mike Gatting ball

 

[DSL64]

Lets reflect on a handful of the stats shall we;

Won Disposals by 26
Won Inside 50s by 20
6 More Scoring shots
Higher DE% 59% v 57%
Won Free Kicks by 8
Won the Hit Outs by 41 yet LOST Clearances by 7.

And other goalless quarter, 13 points down at 3QT and cant kick a goal for the rest of the game.

Absolutely disgraceful.

This

 

[Janus]

Lets reflect on a handful of the stats shall we;

Won Disposals by 26
Won Inside 50s by 20
6 More Scoring shots
Higher DE% 59% v 57%
Won Free Kicks by 8
Won the Hit Outs by 41 yet LOST Clearances by 7.

And other goalless quarter, 13 points down at 3QT and cant kick a goal for the rest of the game.

Absolutely disgraceful.

If you were at the game, you'd know why the last quarter was goalless. The rain and wind picked up in the last something fierce.

While we played like s**t, it's not very often when you can point to an exact moment where everyone knew we would lose the game. And it was that s**t turnover at half back when we were all over the opposition and they were up by only 3 points. The crowd was getting into it, the players were lifting...and then right on cue...a dagger to the heart.

Why you would go for that sort of kick in those sort of conditions is beyond me. Unbelievably stupid.

 

[Capital Power]

Lol weak. Club has put up Broges to face the media on fiveAA today.

Makes sense. The ruck is the one part of our game that isn't embarrassing right now.

 

[afl2004]

Lycett went off after we got to 3 points then he went off and we conceded 3 goals and then as soon as he came back on we scored . Just needed to make him ruck out the quarter

 

[Kiss from a Rozee]

Wines was an absolute joke yesterday, however there is one thing to give him credit for. He was clearly sent to Bont after quarter time and did somewhat nullify him. Bont was on 90 SuperCoach points at quarter time, completely unheard of. Only finished the game on 130.

With that being said 12 possessions for an entire game is disgraceful. He just looked like he didn’t care at all. 1 possession in the first quarter when we were getting smashed around the contest.

There was way too much pressure on the club this year to make someone who really wasn’t ready the captain.

This could completely break him.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Wines was part of a rotation on Bont that included Houston and Drew. Between them they quelled Bont after half time but the damage was done.

Some very ordinary tackle attempts by Port players let him walk away from contests.

A couple of times he was caught with the ball, the umpire was about to pay holding the ball, saw who it was and called a ball up. Can't complain about the umpiring overall but those couple of instances of who you are influencing a decision really stood out.

 

[DSL64]

There was way too much pressure on the club this year to make someone who really wasn’t ready the captain.

This could completely break him.

Break him?
He hasn't played well since he signed his contract last year.

 

[NEGAN]

If you were at the game, you'd know why the last quarter was goalless. The rain and wind picked up in the last something fierce.

While we played like ****, it's not very often when you can point to an exact moment where everyone knew we would lose the game. And it was that **** turnover at half back when we were all over the opposition and they were up by only 3 points. The crowd was getting into it, the players were lifting...and then right on cue...a dagger to the heart.

Why you would go for that sort of kick in those sort of conditions is beyond me. Unbelievably stupid.

Yeah I agree...

But then the problem becomes why does this happen all the time after a mistake?

Can we not arrest the momentum back? Or are we just too mentally weak to recover from a monumental balls up?


It just happens way too often to us that we can't recover from a bad turnover goal.

 

[afl2004]

Wines is all bulk no bite

 

[Jonts]

zi thought Drew did a decent job on Bont in the second half

 

[SimonSpeilberg]

Bassett is a fraud.

Bassett isn’t a fraud line coach

 

[Harlott]

If you were at the game, you'd know why the last quarter was goalless. The rain and wind picked up in the last something fierce.

While we played like ****, it's not very often when you can point to an exact moment where everyone knew we would lose the game. And it was that **** turnover at half back when we were all over the opposition and they were up by only 3 points. The crowd was getting into it, the players were lifting...and then right on cue...a dagger to the heart.

Why you would go for that sort of kick in those sort of conditions is beyond me. Unbelievably stupid.

No it wasn't. It was the non regrouping after the error that cost us the game. It was letting them waltz the ball out of the middle after the **** up. It was the inability to collectively believe ok we mucked that one but let's get dirty with next contest and the next one and the next one. It was leadership.

 

[bomberclifford]

Here is the replay Ken presser

This was me leaving Dingle's place several weeks ago.

 

[Janus]

No it wasn't. It was the non regrouping after the error that cost us the game. It was letting them waltz the ball out of the middle after the **** up. It was the inability to collectively believe ok we mucked that one but let's get dirty with next contest and the next one and the next one. It was leadership.

There's only so many times you can regroup and rally before your spirit is crushed.

There was absolutely no need for that kick. It was a kick borne out of arrogance. The difference between bravery and arrogance is that bravery requires commitment to the cause and proving by your actions that you are better than you are opponent, whereas arrogance is an affliction of thinking you are better than your opponent without actually proving with your actions that this is the case.

I said before the game that Miracle was on television and it was a sign. Well, that game was the US getting destroyed by the USSR by 10 goals to 2.

"They just scored 10 goals, Jim. Right now, it's everybody's net."