Prediction Round 2, 2023: Changes vs GWS

[Schtinker]

Talk me through it

It all started on January the 1st and then voila!!! January the 2nd hit us. I'm sure you know how the rest of it goes.

 

[dinnaz]

Guys how actually shit are we?
Losing away doesn't bother me as we usually suck on the road but we should be hard to beat at home.
Lets settle the team and get on a roll

 

[BeeTee]

Still think we will win this weekend.

 

[WCE_phil]

With the outs GWS have this should be a cake walk. Until I see a midfield structure where we can break even at the centre contest or at least draw a second stoppage so we can get other players to the ball then I just can't pick us to win.

It's been a cycle that has slowly gotten worse. Knights was always a good coach offensively and I thought Schofield could help bring the structures to back that up defensively but our midfield seems to be getting the lesser aspects of both.

 

[joeyavalanche]

Chesser I can forgive having never played a WAFL game let alone an AFL game

Shuey couldn’t have done any more, but with his age and injury history. These performances will be few and far between

Gaff was better than I’m used to and looked to play more exclusively on the wing.

Witherden shouldn’t be in the side in the first place.

Barrass and Gov need to figure out who wants to play loose and who looks after the FF. Sick of seeing the opposition FF kick a bag.

Sheed hasn’t played for a year although my patience with him will be short.

But as the week goes on I’m most pissed off with TK. Just coasting through his contract. I don’t even think I’ve ever seen him grit his teeth during a game.


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[Fatty rules]

I came 2nd in the Dandaragan B grade Fairest and Best back in 1985.

Did you have a second pie after the game to celebrate?

 

[Fatty rules]

It's a 36 year body of evidence and we should fold the club.

Is that like a space/time fold? Where everything becomes 2D - or even 1D like our midfield. Maybe the club has already folded but still exists in the parallel universe of BF? Are our mids just a bunch of weakly interacting massive particles?

 

[dinnaz]

With the outs GWS have this should be a cake walk. Until I see a midfield structure where we can break even at the centre contest or at least draw a second stoppage so we can get other players to the ball then I just can't pick us to win.

It's been a cycle that has slowly gotten worse. Knights was always a good coach offensively and I thought Schofield could help bring the structures to back that up defensively but our midfield seems to be getting the lesser aspects of both.

I said it at the time- Knights is a horrible coach. We have actively gotten worse with him around, while places he leaves get better.

 

[ziad]

I said it at the time- Knights is a horrible coach. We have actively gotten worse with him around, while places he leaves get better.

I don't know what insights you base this on, but history supports you.

 

[dinnaz]

I don't know what insights you base this on, but history supports you.

Source: He is a ginger kid

 

[amazingjoshy]

With the outs GWS have this should be a cake walk. Until I see a midfield structure where we can break even at the centre contest or at least draw a second stoppage so we can get other players to the ball then I just can't pick us to win.

It's been a cycle that has slowly gotten worse. Knights was always a good coach offensively and I thought Schofield could help bring the structures to back that up defensively but our midfield seems to be getting the lesser aspects of both.

Spot on. Everyone can bang on about how useless our rucks were (and they were considering the oppo), but we did win the hitouts by a bit. There's simply no excuse for the wooden spooners to be able to waltz out of clearances as easily and often as they were. They weren't getting silver service from a gun ruck, at best it was 50/50 once it hit the deck and they still pulverised our mids.

Theres something seriously wrong with the way we setup. And Simmo can bang on about effort as much as he wants but it's not like it was a once off. If the players are continually not giving enough effort, drop them or change it up.

Feel like there's still a feeling of when Nic comes back it'll all be good, we really need to get past that imo

(Having said that, I do look forward to at some stage this year having a centre square of Nic ,Yeo, Culley and Ginbey)

 

[Obeanie1]

Spot on. Everyone can bang on about how useless our rucks were (and they were considering the oppo), but we did win the hitouts by a bit. There's simply no excuse for the wooden spooners to be able to waltz out of clearances as easily and often as they were. They weren't getting silver service from a gun ruck, at best it was 50/50 once it hit the deck and they still pulverised our mids.

Theres something seriously wrong with the way we setup. And Simmo can bang on about effort as much as he wants but it's not like it was a once off. If the players are continually not giving enough effort, drop them or change it up.

Feel like there's still a feeling of when Nic comes back it'll all be good, we really need to get past that imo

(Having said that, I do look forward to at some stage this year having a centre square of Nic ,Yeo, Culley and Ginbey)

We didnt select bigger, defensive, combative mids other than a 1st gamer.

No Yeo , no Redden or Culley. And as you mentioned no Nic who has been covering this weakness for 10 years.

Our set up was Kelly, Shuey, XON and Sheed as the main mids with Ginbey inhis 1st game being the only mid with any size who tackles.

So it should be no surprise the opposition waltzed out of the centre ball in hand.

 

[dinnaz]

We didnt select bigger, defensive, combative mids other than a 1st gamer.

No Yeo , no Redden or Culley. And as you mentioned no Nic who has been covering this weakness for 10 years.

Our set up was Kelly, Shuey, XON and Sheed as the main mids with Ginbey inhis 1st game being the only mid with any size who tackles.

So it should be no surprise the opposition waltzed out of the centre ball in hand.

Yet XON is the only true selection error. Likely had a good pre season but overall
what do we see him as?
Surely we now have to have a good look at all other midfielfers now- Trew, Edwards etc

 

[FKASC]

What a terrible draft 2018 was, the top 10 notwithstanding

Or at least it will prove to be for us

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Talk me through it

2008 we would of finished last if it wasn’t for a extremely bad team behind us but like last year.

The rebuild just started so we didn’t have a huge amount in the way of refreshed young talent.

Older players on the way out when Geelong belted us at subi we had 13 premiership players from memory ? Most of them were turned over quickly I’d expect that with impending retirements soon.

 

[Cuzz09]

even in premiership years we were patchy.

We're competing at least.

If we start getting flogged weekly he won't be around long

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[CountryLad]

We didnt select bigger, defensive, combative mids other than a 1st gamer.

No Yeo , no Redden or Culley. And as you mentioned no Nic who has been covering this weakness for 10 years.

Our set up was Kelly, Shuey, XON and Sheed as the main mids with Ginbey inhis 1st game being the only mid with any size who tackles.

So it should be no surprise the opposition waltzed out of the centre ball in hand.

Agree with this.

Do yourself a favour and watch some our centre bounces it’s great using pause and watching them a few times.
See our setup against North. Was very defensive where we would generally stand on the back shoulder of the opponent and generally gave up the space around the rucks to try and contain…. Didn’t work well.

Our stoppages around the ground at times were just as perplexing.
This stoppage resulted in a goal was in our defensive 50. Ruckman did the right by hitting towards the boundary. Was 11 eagles vs 7 north (one of the heads on boundary side is the ump). We left one player free on the boundary side that then waltzed through and snapped a goal. All that was needed was for one of the extra 4 players to stand next to that player and put some body pressure on.
Experienced players in that group including Hurn, Shuey,Gaff, McGovern and Sheed. Very poor.

 

[Bender_]

even in premiership years we were patchy.

Fantastic

 

[The wily weagle]

Fantastic

He is correct though. I can't even tell you the amount of times we have been 30-40 points up, went to sleep for a couple of quarters and woke up late to win. Or, conceded a big lead and had to fight back.

To think about when the club last, even in our premiership years, played 4 hard quarters and had a team on the ropes and put the foot on the throat and went for the kill, consistently, we would have to go a back a long way

This is why, in part, we missed top 4 in 2019/2020 because concentration lapses and sitting back an admiring our handiwork, rather then going for the kill, cost us valuable percentage (and we missed top 4 on percentage)

 

[Trouto]

In: Culley, Petch
Out: XON, Jamieson

Hough for Witherden if he’s actually fit. Suspect when Yeo becomes available Chesser could be vulnerable

wait...you want Petch IN???

 

[Trouto]

I haven't been on here in ages, let me give you guys my thoughts on the game plus some more.

• Bailey Williams - this man is a bonified scrub, this man is 6'8 and tall for no reason. It is an embarrassment to the ruck craft that a designated ruckman got not only outplayed by the opposing ruckman, but dismantled by a midfielder. Not only did he get beaten at his own craft by smaller midfielders, this man cost us the game. Failed attempt to kill the ball on the goal square, leading to a Larkey goal. Holding the ball and free kick in the ruck in the last minute of the game. This man has no IQ, awareness, lacks the determination and everything that becomes with being an AFL, this man is an embarrassment to the game of football. I'm sorry but if this scrub gets outplayed by 6'3 midfielders in the ruck, what's he doing against other ruckman? He's going to get smashed like we saw last season. I would rather have Sheed ruck instead of carrying this liability. I still cannot phantom the abysmal performance by this man, Sumuck gave him a 2/10? I think there was a typo, he really meant -2/10. When the Norf ruckman got injured and was out the rest of the game, i throw a parade in my living room. I was celebrating thinking we were about to take over the midfield numbers, thinking the only logical thing any fan would think, a designated ruckman, rucking against midfielders. This man should be banned from the city of Perth, past greats of this club, Seaby, Wilson, Cox did not walk for this man to run backwards the other way. I am all for supporting our own, but this was arguably the worse performance i have seen by an player, taking into account his direct opposition. This man was literally doing CARDIO on saturday afternoon, cardio. I don't care if we don't have a ruckman to come in for him this week, this man needs to go back to WAFL level, not even WAFL level, a level where he is rucking against 6'4 ruckman, he first needs to master that before rucking against ruckman his size. How are you the tallest person on the field by 3 inches and fail to take one mark man, cmon god damn it. The only positive thing this man can do is when it's one of his teammates milestone game and he is used as one of the two players to chair the player off the field. In fact, the only ever time someone on twitter will say something positive about Bailey Williams, is when the Bailey Williams from the doggies is playing. To my surprise there were some positive tweets saturday night, then i remember the doggies were playing.
• Ginbey - Good, reminds of Crips.

Should be looking to bring Hewett, home game, should be playing.

you're not wrong....

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

In: Hough, Culley, Waterman, Edwards, Clark
Out: Witherden, O’Neill

B: Hurn, Barrass, Cole
HB: Duggan, McGovern, Shuey
C: Gaff, Kelly, Hunt
HF: Cripps, Allen, Jones
F: Ryan, Darling, Long
R: Williams, Sheed, Ginbey
I (fr): Hough, Chesser, Jamieson, Culley, Waterman, Edwards, Clark, Petruccelle

Final changes Hough for Witherden, Culley for O’Neill, Waterman for Petruccelle as sub.

Clark to be held out of WAFL as cover, Edwards and Petch to play WAFL along with Witherden and Culley.

I’m assuming Yeo won’t get up.

 

[Bender_]

He is correct though. I can't even tell you the amount of times we have been 30-40 points up, went to sleep for a couple of quarters and woke up late to win. Or, conceded a big lead and had to fight back.

To think about when the club last, even in our premiership years, played 4 hard quarters and had a team on the ropes and put the foot on the throat and went for the kill, consistently, we would have to go a back a long way

This is why, in part, we missed top 4 in 2019/2020 because concentration lapses and sitting back an admiring our handiwork, rather then going for the kill, cost us valuable percentage (and we missed top 4 on percentage)

Uh huh

 

[new breed]

In - Culley , Yeo , Edwards .

Out - O'Neil , Witherden , Jamieson

 

[Cuzz09]

He is correct though. I can't even tell you the amount of times we have been 30-40 points up, went to sleep for a couple of quarters and woke up late to win. Or, conceded a big lead and had to fight back.

To think about when the club last, even in our premiership years, played 4 hard quarters and had a team on the ropes and put the foot on the throat and went for the kill, consistently, we would have to go a back a long way

This is why, in part, we missed top 4 in 2019/2020 because concentration lapses and sitting back an admiring our handiwork, rather then going for the kill, cost us valuable percentage (and we missed top 4 on percentage)

thank you.

Some people can't see the obvious

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