Preview Round 8, 2024: St.Kilda v North Melbourne - Marvel Stadium, Saturday 4 May, 4.35pm AEST

[Hubnester]

Game Day - Round 8, 2024: St.Kilda v North Melbourne - Marvel Stadium, Saturday 4 May, 4.35pm AEST

https://www.afl.com.au/afl/matches/5961

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[dudeintheswamp]

Maybe a chance Wood is ready...

'Frustrated' Ross showing grumpy side, Saints near returns

The Saints have plenty to work on and Jack Sinclair has backed coach Ross Lyon to help them get back on track

www.afl.com.au

 

[Oh When the Saints]

Phillipou will not be dropped. Not even a discussion. Whether you like it or not (and are yet to recognise it), the plan is clearly to play him as much as possible unless he's physically injured. He would've been dropped or rested last year numerous times if the RTBs plan wasn't to get as many games into him early in his career as possible. I sense that it's a similar plan with Wilson. A complete change from 2008/09/10/11 RTB.

Besides the obvious with Higgins (and maybe Ro), I would expect Sharman, Howard, and Stocker to be on the chopping blocks.

Remember his '4 year rule' the first time at St Kilda? Basically had a theory that players needed to do a 4 year apprenticeship before they could regularly play AFL. Used to cause furore on here (rightly so). He has definitely changed when it comes to young players.

 

[SaintersUnite]

In: King, Collard, Hayes, Webster
Out: Caminiti (omitted), Higgins (suspended), Howard (omitted), Bonner (omitted)

Webster Cordy Wilkie
Sinclair Battle Milera
Hill Ross Wilson
Garcia King Membrey
Owens Hayes Collard
Marshall Steele Windhager

Stocker Sharman Byrnes Hastie

Sub: Phillipou


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[Tyrian Lonestar]

Getting a few back now hopefully no more injuries.

 

[Nutsngum]

Owens is not a midfielder and never will be, maybe it's a fantasy for some fans.

Owens was a utlity player and played just about every position, including midfield in juniors. I think expecting him to be a full time mid isnt realistic but he absolutely can be expected to learn his craft in there.

 

[Browny2Carlisle]

Owens is not a midfielder and never will be, maybe it's a fantasy for some fans.

He will be. When he’s picked up by another team for pick 79 in a few years.

 

[tomjoad]

Collard is a skillful finisher. Might not win heaps of his own ball but he could only need a few opportunities to get a few goals. And that's what we are in need of.

Sometimes you just need a spark to set off a fire.
Collard "could" be the spark to fire up our team.

 

[sauce_head]

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Getting a few back now hopefully no more injuries.

Yep. We are about to run out of excuses…

 

[SG34]

Owens is not a midfielder and never will be, maybe it's a fantasy for some fans.

Please explain clearly why Owens cannot be a mid?

 

[Yawkey way]

If we lose to north could we get some concession picks?!

End of 5th round.

 

[Remboy]

Please explain clearly why Owens cannot be a mid?

The vibe?

 

[Parkysp]

Remember his '4 year rule' the first time at St Kilda? Basically had a theory that players needed to do a 4 year apprenticeship before they could regularly play AFL. Used to cause furore on here (rightly so). He has definitely changed when it comes to young players.

I think there are maybe a few reasons.

1. In the intervening 15 years since he first took us on the development of the U18s is way ahead. Way more players than just the first 5 are ready to play across the league.

2. The past few years in commentary watching other sides and how they've gone about it with introducing first and second year players

3. He's generally more relaxed than he was than 1.0 StK and Freo days. In some ways he's probably treating this as a free swing for the fence as it's success or done as a coach. He'll retire with a respected reputation as a coach so only way is up to the premiership coach level of respect.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

If rtb can unleash Arie and to a lesser extent Bonner they can use their weapons to shoot over the top of our weak midfield and bypass them altogether.
This could result in the oppo manning up on them which frees up our defense and allowing us to easily move the ball out more traditionally,
dropping back defenders which opens up our mids and causing mass confusion to the oppo mids and defenders which basically ends up with us being able to use our run and kick more goals. We just need to be really flexible and learn to change it up. Makes us hard to play against.
Needs some tweaking of course but over to you rtb with your new game plan.

 

[SG34]

The vibe?

That's as clear as mud! lol

 

[Saint12]

Please explain clearly why Owens cannot be a mid?

Exactly... looks to me to be the prototype midfielder of the current times

 

[Mav3rick]

IN: King, Dow, Wood
OUT: Sharman, Higgins, Howard

Midfield needs a shakeup and Jones needs to play more than one good VFL game to be considered. Jimmy Webster

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Jimmy Webster

Age

30

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

288.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

probably needs a practice run after his long holiday, plus playing him would probably just fire up North. Stocker and Bonner need to show something quickly though. If Membrey and Phillipou can't find something against North's horrid defence they'll be on the block too.

A lot of people want to drop Caminiti for Hayes but I like what I've seen from Hammer. He's our only forward who actually hits packs and earns scoring shots consistently (more goals than points would be nice though).

Wood is a really important player, leads by example and a mentor for the kids. Howard was bad last week and we certainly don't need to play four key backs against North.

 

[Saint12]

IN: King, Dow, Wood
OUT: Sharman, Higgins, Howard

Midfield needs a shakeup and Jones needs to play more than one good VFL game to be considered. Jimmy Webster probably needs a practice run after his long holiday, plus playing him would probably just fire up North. Stocker and Bonner need to show something quickly though. If Membrey and Phillipou can't find something against North's horrid defence they'll be on the block too.

A lot of people want to drop Caminiti for Hayes but I like what I've seen from Hammer. He's our only forward who actually hits packs and earns scoring shots consistently (more goals than points would be nice though).

Wood is a really important player, leads by example and a mentor for the kids. Howard was bad last week and we certainly don't need to play four key backs against North.

Id be resting Membrey before Caminiti. Members has done nothing to keep his position going back as far as last year.

 

[Imtellingya]

IN: King, Dow, Wood
OUT: Sharman, Higgins, Howard

Midfield needs a shakeup and Jones needs to play more than one good VFL game to be considered. Jimmy Webster probably needs a practice run after his long holiday, plus playing him would probably just fire up North. Stocker and Bonner need to show something quickly though. If Membrey and Phillipou can't find something against North's horrid defence they'll be on the block too.

A lot of people want to drop Caminiti for Hayes but I like what I've seen from Hammer. He's our only forward who actually hits packs and earns scoring shots consistently (more goals than points would be nice though).

Wood is a really important player, leads by example and a mentor for the kids. Howard was bad last week and we certainly don't need to play four key backs against North.

The reason I would go for Hayes over Caminiti is that, whilst Caminiti is more our future, Hayes is very experienced, admittedly in the SANFL, but he has got that experience to draw in a strategic sense, combined with his marking and rucking skills, whilst Caminity is still very raw and developing..

 

[akaifu]

Can we just like have a good game for once?

You know, just imagine.. Windy gets 30+, King kicks 7, Collard comes in and kicks 5.
Battle *ing rules HB and Wilkie marks *ing everything...
Nas is completely off the chain and slicing them to bits.

Just once...

is it ******* asking too much.

A 100 point belting would be nice. Hopefully we're not on the receiving end tho...

 

[gringo2011]

Relax Gringo come next Saturday we will all be saying what the hell were we all nervous about and be celebrating and toasting our 5 point win like it was 1966 all over again.

Probably. But never say never with us.

 

[gringo2011]

Saints fans expect finals. They're already annoyed at how we have gone so far. A loss to North will just be bad news all round.

We are really unlikely to play finals barring a miracle turn around now. Essendon game probably ended the season. Dogs put a nail in it.

 

[Saint12]

Probably. But never say never with us.

It's a win win. Win and its Happy Days. Lose and we all get to lose the plot followed by eco

 

[gringo2011]

Anything under a 40 point win will be a disgrace

We can hardly score 40 points at the moment.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

We are really unlikely to play finals barring a miracle turn around now. Essendon game probably ended the season. Dogs put a nail in it.

And that's why everyone is a bit annoyed. We have basically regressed on last season.

 

[Tyrian Lonestar]

We can hardly score 40 points at the moment.