Recommitted Rowan Marshall [OOC 2027] - Requested Trade to Geelong, didn't get done

[Mister Carlton]

F rating for Geelong.

 

[SainterinSydney]

We were just told it was 2 firsts or SDK....yeah no thanks lol

You can sign Harry Boyd. He is delisted free agent.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

I doubt there's many other outcomes than a brisbane-suns gf to be honest

Offering up overs for Marshall wouldn't be changing that. Glad we gave a fair offer, we move on now it was rejected.

 

[FootyLad0]

So you didn't really value him. The offer you put forward for him was junk, pick 19 in a crap draft and an F2. All Geelong's fault it didn't happen, Marshall should feel let down you wanted to pay unders for a contracted good player.

He's not worth 2 firsts or SDK bro cmon...
I could understand 1 x Future First but 2? Yeah no thanks that's insane.

And Cats don't trade players who don't ask out so SDK was never happening.

 

[Mr Meow]

Lashing out. Sad.

Note who I was replying to and the tired trolling attempt they made. Sad.

 

[FootyLad0]

You can sign Harry Boyd. He is delisted free agent.

Probably will, we've done well on DFA front.

Stengle and Martin recently.

 

[BrutThough]

Given a F1 wasn't part of the final offer, I'm not sure Mackie's claim Geelong didnt everything they could holds up.

Not that it matters because I'm thrilled to keep Marshall. I've said for a while I want to see what TDK/Roma do as a duo because it could be a real point of difference for us.

 

[FootyLad0]

Well i think you've missed a trick then. It will be hard to make another Grand Final now.

Brisbane's winning anyway.

The gap between them and everyone else is huge. Marshall wouldn't have changed that.

 

[FootyLad0]

Agree.

Also fix the bid situation on draft day.

Pick 5 is fast becoming an outside top 10 pick.

Shame for Marshall but Cats aren't dumb.

It has been? By next year you'll be lucky to draft two guys under a bid in the first round.
By 2027 teams will barely be able to get 1 guy in the first round.

Changes are happening already mate.

 

[FootyLad0]

Given a F1 wasn't part of the final offer, I'm not sure Mackie's claim Geelong didnt everything they could holds up.

Not that it matters because I'm thrilled to keep Marshall. I've said for a while I want to see what TDK/Roma do as a duo because it could be a real point of difference for us.

Saints asked for 2 Firsts or SDK.
That was never happening, Saints didn't even come to the table in the first place.

They wanted to keep Rowan and they stuck to it. Fair play to them

 

[beside the seaside]

He's not worth 2 firsts or SDK bro cmon...
I could understand 1 x Future First but 2? Yeah no thanks that's insane.

And Cats don't trade players who don't ask out so SDK was never happening.

Your first this year was the equivalent of a second. A late first round pick in a very average draft. You can sell it as a first all you like but it's not the same.

 

[Enclosed_Animal]

You're making assumptions on behalf of people when none of us plebs know what is being said in boardrooms or clubrooms.
You can't make assumptions based on that.

Will be very interesting to see how Rowan takes it.

Okay lets simplify this. Mackie just said in his press conference "we tried everything we could to bring him in"

Why then did your offer come in the last hour (leaving no room for negotuiation)?
Why was your F1 never on the table (given he was contracted and Geelong had to pay overs)?

Sydney tried everything to bring in Curnow, and got it done. Geelong tried to get a contracted player for a 'fair price' and failed. That is a long way from "we tried everything we could to bring him in"

Mackie cannot simultaniously claim that we did "everything we can" and not pay the required price. Those things cannot be true at the same time. It is one or the other

 

[BrutThough]

Saints asked for 2 Firsts or SDK.
That was never happening, Saints didn't even come to the table in the first place.

They wanted to keep Rowan and they stuck to it. Fair play to them

Easy to understand why Geelong wouldn't pay that. But from the saints perspective, I'd glad we asked for the world and stuck to our public statements about keeping wanted players.

 

[FootyLad0]

Your first this year was the equivalent of a second. A late first round pick in a very average draft. You can sell it as a first all you like but it's not the same.

We don't know which firsts it was.
Could have been 2026 and 2027?
SDK doesn't even need a mention that's been explained a thousand times.

Cats are after Butters/Walsh and need picks for them end of next year, they were always going to be reluctant to move future picks.

 

[FootyLad0]

Why then did your offer come in the last hour (leaving no room for negotiation)?
Why was your F1 never on the table (given he was contracted and Geelong had to pay overs)?

If Geelong said to Marshall "we will do everything we can" to bring you in and then did this, the that is a pretty bloody ordinary effort

1. Saints wanted 2 firsts or SDK which neither was happening.
2. Mackie put out 19 on Day 1 and heard nothing back...there was no negotiating, i like how you skipped the part where he said Saints didn't want to deal Rowan at all. Cats need picks for Butters/Walsh from 2026. That was never going to be the case for Marshall.

You're putting an "If" in there like you know what was said or done.
All we know is what is reported.

 

[Count_Zero]

1. Saints wanted 2 firsts

Making stories up again. You taking huge hits of Copeium.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Turns out this board was a really good gauge.

Nobody (except Damien Barrett) ever thought a sh1tty F1 this year was getting it done
Plenty of Cats said 19 and F2 is a high as Geelong would go
Plenty of Saints said F1 was the minimum (and probably still not enough)
Both were right

My question is, if we could all see this, what on Earth was Marshall's management group thinking telling him to go public whith this request? They must have got some indication that one side would give. I am genuinely curious which one

From our end, we have said no all the way along (unless something seriously weighted towards the club turned our heads). Did Geelong give some promise to Marshall they would get it done? If so, genuinely pretty ordinary to get a contracted player to nominate, then wait to the last minute to up the offer from a week ago (barely) and try to 'win' the deal. That leaves no space for further dialogue. If he is contracted either pay up (like we did with Flanders, GC with Trac or Sydney with Curnow) of F off (like Hawthorn with Merrett). The clubs that got deals done for contracted players left plenty of time to discuss offers. None of this wait for a week and offer something at the last second crap. Its heroball stuff trying to 'win' a negotiation, rather than find something that genuinely works for both parties

IMO clubs really need to stop trying to pay a 'fair price' for contracted players. You can either have fair price, or contracted goods. Not both (unless it is busted goods like Oliver of JUH, which Marshall was not)

To be honest the difference between 19 + F2nd and a F1st ia so minimal that I think everyone is just surprised they didn't take it

 

[cartel]

To be honest the difference between 19 + F2nd and a F1st ia so minimal that I think everyone is just surprised they didn't take it

Why didn't cats offer the F1 if the difference is minimal then?

 

[VDS66]

Not sure what to think about this to be honest, but I'll give it a go...

 

[VDS66]

Standard unhinged Saints nuff

Wilkie and Jsos love this post. And Butts for that matter.

 

[Falchoon]

Probably will, we've done well on DFA front.

Stengle and Martin recently.

Jack 58% game time Martin? Had 5 minutes when 10 goals up against Port, the rest was ordinary.

Serious question though, Why did they not give him a serious run in the Grand Final?

 

[Enclosed_Animal]

To be honest the difference between 19 + F2nd and a F1st ia so minimal that I think everyone is just surprised they didn't take it

What??

Pick 25ish in a rubbish draft this year and a 30s pick next near: or
A top 15 (possibly top 10) pick in the last uncomprimised draft for the forseeable future

Big difference there mate. And if Geelong actually thought the difference was minimal, then why not make the offer?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

What??

Pick 25ish in a rubbish draft this year and a 30s pick next near: or
Atop 15 (possibly top 10) pick in the last uncomprimised draft for the forseeable future

Big difference there mate. And if Geelong actually thought the difference was minimal, then why not make the offer?

You think next year wil be uncompromised?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

It's hilarious you Geelong fans are acting like we turned down the deal of a lifetime, as if your late first rounder in this rubbish draft is worth anything more than a half-eaten bag of shapes.

Absolute rubbish offer lol. Glad our club gave yours the finger. Marshall will thank us later.

It wasnt the deal if a lifetime but it was basically double what sydney paid for Grundy.

It wasn't silly but it was overs

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Why didn't cats offer the F1 if the difference is minimal then?

Rejected on the deadline to some confused looks.