Opinion Rowe to CHB

[Love the Drake]

On reading the many pre-season reviews re our best 22 I see that the majority are hoping and praying that WATSON can hold down the CHB position so as to release HENDO to CHF. I too hope he is capable of this, however am sceptical that a 16 gamer can step up and play this key position for the entire season.

I am throwing up Sam ROWE as a possible solution. I know he has some limitations, however he has a lot more experience than WATSON and has played CHB in South Australia and for the Bullants. He is probably more mobile than WATSON and I believe reads the play better. He also takes a very good overhead mark and does not mind the physical contact.

At 196 cm and 96 kg I reckon he is someone MM could look at to fill the void. This may allow WATSON to gain experience as the third tall defender.

Thoughts....

 

[HARKER]

Good call Drake.

Was trialed at CHB last year through the VFL and performed well.
With only one of Casboult or Rowe able to play forward at any one time, Rowe may just be better served spending more time down back.

The other fact is that if Watson is played in the seniors, we'll only have an 18 year old Giles as a tall back in the VFL. Much to much an ask for the kid.
Development was carefully planned at VFL level last year and burning the kid too early may not be prudent.

Will be interesting to see exactly where Rowe shows up through the pre-season but a back post wouldn't surprise at all.

 

[Heres Waite]

Worth a try with Rowe. I would also love to see Kruezer play there for a game or two with Warnock in the Ruck. He is fairly mobile, good in the air and on the ground, and has the heart, spirit, and hustle all good defenders have. Just thinking outside the box.

 

[Big_Luch]

will probably have to considering our depth in the KP department

 

[MrsLily]

i think its where he should play but depends on match ups. might be good against hawkins or brown or resting ruck like maric or pyke

 

[Jock]

Worth a shot, he has a season to prove he deserves a spot on our list or he will be goneski you'd think.

 

[gbatman]

Rowe in the backline is a reasonable suggestion, to find out he needs to play there for a few games. Seems worthy of trying.

 

[le dominateur]

Can't see it myself, imo Everitt looks a better proposition for CHB when we need to swing Henderson forward.

 

[Blue Dangerfield]

It's a good idea.

I reckon the recruitment of Andrejs will also be to the betterment of who ever plays that second key defensive position. Everit will be handy as a third man up given his height and athleticism. So who ever gets the nod for CHB will have plenty of support.

I'd personally prefer Watson to make the grade as I think his kicking ability could make him very dangerous on the rebound, but I'd be happy with Rowe to make a fist of it too.

The only doubt I have with Rowe is his fitness base, which, for obvious reasons is not great, and it wouldn't take much for an athletic CHF like Rievoldt, Reid, Franklin, Harry Taylor to run him around and blow him up.

Which ever way happens I think it's important that Lachy stays forward this year. 26 goals from less than half a season (I think he didn't play much in the forward line until the second time we played the saints) up forward is a massive return, he could easily become 50-60 goal a year forward in my opinion.

 

[zeeCFC]

Will wait and see what he produces this preseason because he's just not good enough for a CHB at the moment.

 

[Silvagnis]

Hampson for CHB 2014.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

I think we need to give Watson CHB, the responsibility can only give him confidence and make him a better player.

I think we shouldn't expect to much of Rowey, he's gone through a hell of a lot and to just get him on the field will be amazing. I'd prefer Rowe as a David Hale type.

 

[mediumsizered]

Good call Drake.

Was trialed at CHB last year through the VFL and performed well.
With only one of Casboult or Rowe able to play forward at any one time, Rowe may just be better served spending more time down back.

The other fact is that if Watson is played in the seniors, we'll only have an 18 year old Giles as a tall back in the VFL. Much to much an ask for the kid.
Development was carefully planned at VFL level last year and burning the kid too early may not be prudent.

Will be interesting to see exactly where Rowe shows up through the pre-season but a back post wouldn't surprise at all.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that NB were looking at playing Anthony in defence, where he has played some AFL football.

I think MM would still see Rowe as a KPF who can pinch hit in the ruck when needed, although he certainly did a good job on Joe Daniher at Windy Hill last year (other than the 3 goals Daniher kicked early on in the game).

 

[Silvagnis]

Can't see it myself, imo Everitt looks a better proposition for CHB when we need to swing Henderson forward.

See Everitt being more a wing-back like Walker with his mobility, marking and long kicking.

I think MM would still see Rowe as a KPF who can pinch hit in the ruck when needed, although he certainly did a good job on Joe Daniher at Windy Hill last year (other than the 3 goals Daniher kicked early on in the game).

Leigh Brown role is perfect for Rowe or Casboult beside Kreuzer or Warnock.

 

[Claypigeon]

I think it depends on form really. ..

If in form Rowe could come into the side to play either forward or back and could give us the flexibility to swing Hendo forward and back. .. I do hope they play Watson in a key role down back and it wouldn't hurt to have a mobile Rowe, Henderson, Walker or Everitt playing along side him to help out. .. MAybe even Jammo if Hendo releases him from FB. ..

How we set up our talls is still the most interesting conundrum to see solutions for next year. ..

 

[HARKER]

I think it depends on form really. ..

If in form Rowe could come into the side to play either forward or back and could give us the flexibility to swing Hendo forward and back. .. I do hope they play Watson in a key role down back and it wouldn't hurt to have a mobile Rowe, Henderson, Walker or Everitt playing along side him to help out. .. MAybe even Jammo if Hendo releases him from FB. ..

How we set up our talls is still the most interesting conundrum to see solutions for next year. ..

I don't think that Rowe will come into the senior side as a CHB from day 1, but to use him down back in the VFL could be good insurance.

If Watson doesn't come up this year what's plan B? Henderson back to CHB?
Everitt is not a KPP, White is too short and slow and Giles is just too inexperienced.

Just makes sense to me that Rowe gets played down back as much as possible in the VFL. Will be interesting to see how that pans out though.

 

[Weiterbot23]

Waite, hendo, Jamo are all very good players in the spine, if Watson comes on we are looking very good.

However the chances of them all play 22 is very very low.

It's good to hear that Rowe has done well at vfl level as a chb. As I dare say him, white and cas will all be called on to fill in at times this year.


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[Claypigeon]

I don't think that Rowe will come into the senior side as a CHB from day 1, but to use him down back in the VFL could be good insurance.

If Watson doesn't come up this year what's plan B? Henderson back to CHB?
Everitt is not a KPP, White is too short and slow and Giles is just too inexperienced.

Just makes sense to me that Rowe gets played down back as much as possible in the VFL. Will be interesting to see how that pans out though.

Agreed. .. I was more talking about the senior side. .. To me Rowe is our reserve Henderson. .. He's almost the back up to all our tall options, quite a handy player to have in the side. .. Where he is played in the reserves might depend on team balance, something we've handled better in the past 12months in our seconds side. ..

 

[Blue Bloods]

CHB Options

1st Option, Watson, has the most potential with his kick a big plus and played very well before injury late last year, allows Henderson forward.

2nd Option, Henderson, could be an AA backman if there all year, means Casboult comes into the side or we go smaller in the forward line with just Waite and a resting Kruezer as the talls.

3rd Option, Rowe, very few options here which is why it is a great idea to play him at CHB in the VFL,

4th Option Shite hits the fan, maybe a White/McInnis/Everitt/Giles but all undersized or not ready, could happen with Jamison/Waite/Kruezer/Hendersons injury history and Watson/Rowe/Casboults inexperience.

 

[Beer n Skittles]

CHB Options

1st Option, Watson, has the most potential with his kick a big plus and played very well before injury late last year, allows Henderson forward.

2nd Option, Henderson, could be an AA backman if there all year, means Casboult comes into the side or we go smaller in the forward line with just Waite and a resting Kruezer as the talls.

3rd Option, Rowe, very few options here which is why it is a great idea to play him at CHB in the VFL,

4th Option Shite hits the fan, maybe a White/McInnis/Everitt/Giles but all undersized or not ready, could happen with Jamison/Waite/Kruezer/Hendersons injury history and Watson/Rowe/Casboults inexperience.

Waite is a very handy CHB too

 

[gbatman]

CHB Options

1. Leave Henderson at CHB.
- Henderson is the best CHB on our list but probably the best CHF as well.
- Develop Watson as a CHF, showed plenty of promise when played there later last year before getting injured, has all the tools to play there but doesn't have the expierence.
- Play Rowe or Casboult at CHF.
- Play Everitt at CHF, has been more of a periferal player, will either continue as a periferal player or mature into a key position player but this my not be likely.


2. Move Henderson to CHF.
- Rely on either Rowe or Watson to hold down CHB.

Requirements for CHF
Running ability - must be able to cover plenty of ground and not run out of legs and be able to lead.

Body Size and Strenght - Will be playing on big strong backmen, will need to be able to mark or bring it forwards in a contest.

Marking - need to have strong hands and can mark under physical pressure.

Kicking - must be a long kick and a good field kick as many shots on goal will be from around 50 or further if the player can kick it 60 and will also be delivering the ball inside 50 a lot.

Requirements for a CHF

Running ability - Must have good endurance to be able to run with guys like Nick Riewoldt but also to be able to run off them and provide a target and give run off half back. Need to also have pace to keep up with opponent and as an attacking option.

Courage and ability to read play - must be willing to get in front of the other key forward/s and to be able to drift off opponent and cover space.

Stopping ability - Must be able to play on good opponents and stop them getting the footy and more so, kicking goals.

Skills - needs to be able to hit targets and be clean with hands (marking, ground balls etc).

CHF/CHB Candidates

Henderson - Has all the tools to play both positions.

Waite - Good FF, accurate kick for goal but not an overly long kick. Running ability is not what it was. Probably hasn't got the run to play CHB any more and is not good at stopping opponents.

Jamison - Great defender, not a forward, can play CHF and FB but is more suited to FB.

Watson - Potential at both ends but has played most of his VFL and Junior footy in defence so lacks a lot of experience as a forward. Questions over his pace, endurance, stopping abilities and cleanness below the knees at this stage in regards to playing CHB. Also a little unproven how good he is at zoning off, reading the play and giving team mates the chop out by getting in the way of other opposition players but did seem ok in this area in the VFL.

Rowe - Ran out of run a fair bit at times last year and may not be the best kick which may prevent him playing CHB. Fair chance he will be fitter this season so there is a chance that he may be improved at both ends. Hands are good but not great like Casboult's and Waite's are. Not sure about his attaching abilities as a CHB or how good he is below the knees but looks alright.

Casboult - Only a forward. Pace, kicking and ability to run out a game are the concerns here. Will be a better forward if he isn't also rucking.

Everitt - Has been more of a periferal tall. Whether he matures into a key position player or continues on the same path remains unknown, though I think he will remain as a periferal tall.

White - Concedes too many goals playing key position, just isn't tall enough. Good tall pocket/flanker.

Kreuzer/Warnock - Aren't key position players, capable of chipping in in the forward pocket but that's it.

Giles - Looks a good kid but I don't think he's ready yet to play key position in the AFL yet.


Going to be an interesting nab cup. Would be good to see Rowe and Watson both trialled at both CHB and CHF as it's really unknown if these guys can play there and both do show potential at either end. Rowe may very well be a new man this season. We all know what Waite, Jamison and Henderson offer and can/can't do. Casboult needs to prove that he can run and kick well enough for AFL and we really need to find out where Watson and Rowe can play and what they are capable of. We may well find out that Rowe can play CHB and Watson CHF fairly well, which might make selection interesting.

 

[dropdead1]

Good call. He's unlikely to develop into an AFL level key forward, so I'd definitely try him in the backline.

 

[thylacine60]

Good Call comments must go in the GC/BC thread!!

 

[Blue Dangerfield]

Good Call comments must go in the GC/BC thread!!

Bad call.

All threads should be good call/bad call

 

[SBYM]

Great OP Love the Drake...

I have big hopes for Rowe this year. The after-effects of his illness will be a distant memory and he is a natural footballer who could well come on in leaps and bounds...could become the archetypal 'good ordinary player'.

If he can hold down CHB and allow Hendo to terrorise opposition defenders, all the better.