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BW

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This comp needs a revamp in 2007 IMO. There's only so long you can keep going with the same lists before they get a bit stale. There wasn't that much off-season trading last year compared to earlier years, which will only get worse next year. This also results in the same teams dominating every year as lists don't change much.

Plus theres hardly any coaches in the game now from the beginning so they may appreciate to take over a team and have full control of it from the start. By revamp I mean re-setting lists to real AFL again.

That's what I think anyway, interested to see what others think.
 
I joined this game because of the way it is structured but I do see your point about the team lists becoming a bit old...

I dont agree with the resetting of lists, but a few things that may help could be

- In season trading
- Increasing the number of players you must cut before the draft (greater player turnover)

Also, Im thinking that maybe teams who dont have coaches, or whose coaches pull out before this seasons end, should be disband to make for a greater talent pool. Saves for situations like my own whereby I had just 17 players (may have been 16) play this week...

But overall, I am pretty happy with the game and am looking forward to the challenge of rebuiding my list in the coming seasons
 

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Either way Im in!

Im happy with the dockers current team and i reckon if I get a full season with them, Ill make the 8.

If teams were to be reset It would probably be a bit dull if you didnt end up with your fav team.....

I think Im happy to rebuild...:thumbsu:
 
illnino said:
If teams were to be reset It would probably be a bit dull if you didnt end up with your fav team.....

How is that any different to how it is at the moment? I reckon it's better to get a team you don't support anyway, teams who get there own are normally more biased and trade less.

The comp certainly needs some sort of revamp, whether thats resetting lists or something else.

And I'd be willing to take any team if teams were reset, in fact I'd rather a team that needs re-building than West Coast.
 
I agree that something needs to happen because the team i have at the moment while i'm going pretty well, it's not my team, i have inherited it from the last coach.

Maybe a fantasy draft of some sorts at the end of the season?????
 
Wasn't this the same issue with another game (BFSL?) awhile back?

The whole resetting issue was partly a reason why I left that in the first place; no stability at all. I realise I may come across as being from a high position (considering Geelong's list), but honestly, this game is fine as it is.

I inherited a rubbish squad 2 seasons back, and without sounding arrogant, have turned it into a top 5 side. Not as if it can't be done. A few tweaks here and there, maybe, but no need for an entire revamp every few seasons.
 
Despite Carlton's current position close to the bottom of the ladder, I'd like to keep the game pretty much as it is. Carlton was riddled with injuries and retirements this season and inherited a fairly poor list in the first place. However we have some good youngsters that we hope to build a team around in the coming couple of seasons.

There's no need to re-set lists.

Priority draft picks for teams with 6 wins or less over two seasons would help to even up the competition more quickly, as lower teams could either draft a very good youngster or trade the pick for a good player.
 
Keep as is.

I think BW is wrong about how the gap is widening. I came 16th in 2005 and did a few trades and am playing in an Elimination final this week. I know some teams have been at the bottom for a year or 2 but they have younger teams and they'll get better over time.

IMO we need to bring back the press releases or something to keep the game more alive cause at the moment all we do is give a team line up weekly.
 

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BW said:
This comp needs a revamp in 2007 IMO. There's only so long you can keep going with the same lists before they get a bit stale. There wasn't that much off-season trading last year compared to earlier years, which will only get worse next year. This also results in the same teams dominating every year as lists don't change much.

Plus theres hardly any coaches in the game now from the beginning so they may appreciate to take over a team and have full control of it from the start. By revamp I mean re-setting lists to real AFL again.
Your team's been at the top (at least in terms of points for) for 3 years and there isn't much improvement you can do to your team. Some of the newer coaches are in a similar boat because they've inherited someone else's squad, others have started to rebuild the inherited list into something of their own and don't want to start that process again with a new list, inherited from an AFL club instead of another coach.
mdunn27 said:
- In season trading
I've always been against that mainly because it's more work for me, but it does provide a bit more interest during the season so we might be able to come up with something
mdunn27 said:
- Increasing the number of players you must cut before the draft (greater player turnover)
That's easy to implement - any suggestions on the number?
mdunn27 said:
Also, Im thinking that maybe teams who dont have coaches, or whose coaches pull out before this seasons end, should be disband to make for a greater talent pool. Saves for situations like my own whereby I had just 17 players (may have been 16) play this week...

But overall, I am pretty happy with the game and am looking forward to the challenge of rebuiding my list in the coming seasons
If there's enough teams like that we can do it, who's interested in doing this?
Presti_is_god said:
But there should be some midway point between keeping the lists as is and a total reset of lists.
Agree with that, but it's easier said than done. There's the MPFL system some of you will know, but it does stop the coaches who have been trying to build their team over a few years if we bring that in with no warning
sante said:
IMO we need to bring back the press releases or something to keep the game more alive cause at the moment all we do is give a team line up weekly.
I'll sticky a thread for that, but it relies on coaches wanting to do them, enforcing it just makes the standard drop



I'm not sure now why I did this earlier in the week, but here's how much better the original club's best 18 scores (i.e. if lists were reset) have been averaged over the last 5 weeks compared to the TM club
Brisbane: -185.6
Collingwood: -162.6
West Coast: -122.8
St Kilda: -116.2
Geelong: -45.8
Essendon/Mornington: -31.2
Western Bulldogs/Vultures: -13.8
Hawthorn: +21.8
Melbourne: +41.6
Fremantle/East Coast: +54.2
Adelaide: +89.4
Kangaroos: +94.2
Port Adelaide: +96
Sydney: +97.2
Richmond: +206.8
Carlton: +225.6
 
Although I would like a revamp, the majority seem to like the comp as is, so obviously that's not gonna happen which is fair enough. I think implementing an MPFL type system or any system involving cutting our lists by any great number would upset most here. That takes away from the building of a list aspect which I know guys like GeeCat prefer. I like that aspect too actually for a comp like this (taking over a squad rather than drafting one).

As you said, my team has been dominant every year, and its got to the point for me where it's not challenging anymore. Plus last off-season I set myself up with youngsters, improving types etc. so I could continue to have a great side for another 2-3 years by just naming my side each week, I have no need to trade. Plus I would have a good draft position this year.

What I would like to do is to give West Coast up and take over another team, preferebly one which finished in the bottom 5. I'm sure someone would be interested in a team which includes Chris Judd amongst other stars. If that's not possible I'll probably step aside from the comp. Bottom 8 teams can also give up their team for St Kilda if they want - maybe a bit more room to improve with a few aging players and a few who are good chances to be delisted, not that I've checked the West Coast list
 
Can these people please check there PM inbox:

jackson_rules
illnino
mdunn27
crazy big al
one_twelve112
 
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With trading i think having a period stright after the GF is a good idea as ppl will still be around and interested. Might be a good idea to have a 1 week or so period just before next season.

The scholarships could just goto the real life club like with F/S
 

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Agreed, generally, with Presti.

NSW scholarships should just stay intact with the AFL-aligned club, as with our F/S rule.

The main trading period would be ideal after the GF, perhaps with a smaller (restricted moves type to accomodate any late delistings in the actual AFL) period before the draft.
 
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If there's an early trade period I'd like it the 2 weeks leading into the GF like last yr, that was cool fun. There isn't any difference between before or after the GF if the period is going to be before real trades and delistings, and theres the extra buzz before rather than after the GF.

As the others said another shorter period sometime after real lists are finalisted and the start of the season would be good, and the scholorship thing I agree too.
 
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BW said:
If there's an early trade period I'd like it the 2 weeks leading into the GF like last yr, that was cool fun. There isn't any difference between before or after the GF if the period is going to be before real trades and delistings, and theres the extra buzz before rather than after the GF.

As the others said another shorter period sometime after real lists are finalisted and the start of the season would be good, and the scholorship thing I agree too.


I agree on these points also
 
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Yeah i think Blu Boy has some good points.

There really isnt any difference to before and after the GF, and yeah like he said, the extra Buzz leading to the finals will help spark more interest, as you start watching players on TV and seeing them perform, and then it sorta sparks the old footy spark plugs up and you look to trade more.


Can someone elaborate on the NSW scolarship thing for me? I haven't been as active on this site this year as i have been in the past and my drafting/up to date knowledge is pathetic :p .

I flagged this last year too , but what about drafting players who are eligbile this year, but dont get drafted in real life? Its a gamble, but if a manager wants a shot , perhaps he can. (i.e that old Andy Swallow example i used). A manager wouldn't use a high pick anyway, so it wont be a big deterent on the game if someone did in fact try to pick a youngen and he didnt get drafted the following year.
 
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andrew_embley said:
Can someone elaborate on the NSW scolarship thing for me? I haven't been as active on this site this year as i have been in the past and my drafting/up to date knowledge is pathetic :p .

I flagged this last year too , but what about drafting players who are eligbile this year, but dont get drafted in real life? Its a gamble, but if a manager wants a shot , perhaps he can. (i.e that old Andy Swallow example i used). A manager wouldn't use a high pick anyway, so it wont be a big deterent on the game if someone did in fact try to pick a youngen and he didnt get drafted the following year.
The NSW scholarship - club gets to pick 1 player from NSW (age 15-16ish I think), help develop them, then can pick them up for free pre-draft when they're eligible.

The second bit could be incorporated into that rule - either take the scholarship player or pick someone who doesn't get on a list
 

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