Rumour File #8.

[Jeremias]

I've posted this in the Kreuzer thread and it correlates with what was said on 6PR in Perth the other night ... the word on the street is that the club have been contemplating since Round 4 to end his season prematurely/give him an extended break due to persistant knee complaints on advice from Julian Feller (knee surgeon).

You know what, I'd probably support such a move.

Kreuzer is such an important player for us, but he's a 10+ year player. If he's injured there's simply no point in playing him.

I'd of course love to be proven wrong, but I can't see us doing anything this year, with or without him. We may make the 8 but we need a minor miracle to go much further than that. 2012 started with great promise but it's quickly become a disaster for the club - injuries have well and truly taken their toll.

If we can shut Kreuzer down for the year to enable him to come back a better footballer in the future, then we may as well do it.

Warnock and Hampson have both shown that they have what it takes to be very competent in the middle of the ground, so we'd still be able to more than compete in the ruck. It'd probably have the added bonus of giving Warnock enough of a run at it to make him want to stay at the club beyond 2012 - or alternatively, enough time to put in some really solid performances to boost his trade value come trade time.

My preference is, of course, for Kreuz to stay out there as at his best he is simply outstanding and adds a huge amount to our side, but if he's not right, he's not right and there's no point trying to carry him through it if he'd be better off not playing.

 

[HBF]

I've posted this in the Kreuzer thread and it correlates with what was said on 6PR in Perth the other night ... the word on the street is that the club have been contemplating since Round 4 to end his season prematurely/give him an extended break due to persistant knee complaints on advice from Julian Feller (knee surgeon).

Hey C4, why would the club not do this?
With Hampson and Warnock fit and our top 4 chances gone, why not give him the necessary rest and get him right for 2013.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Hey C4, why would the club not do this?
With Hampson and Warnock fit and our top 4 chances gone, why not give him the necessary rest and get him right for 2013.

I have no idea, perhaps they are seeking another opinion on the matter? Perhaps the club are confident they can handle the complaint/injury on a weekly basis .. but in saying that, you cannot get a more informed opinion on the matter of Orthodpaedics than Julian Feller, so if true - the club should pull their finger out.

 

[HBF]

I have no idea, perhaps they are seeking another opinion on the matter? Perhaps the club are confident they can handle the complaint/injury on a weekly basis .. but in saying that, you cannot get a more informed opinion on the matter of Orthodpaedics than Julian Feller, so if true - the club should pull their finger out.

Agreed - the club certainly need to pull their finger out.
Kreuzer is a 10 year player, and we don't want to destroy the kid this early into his career

 

[Azul]

Last I checked it's a top 8. Call me deluded but I haven't yet written off season 2012 - starting with a win tomorrow night.

As for resting Kreuzer: Warnock and Hampson will carry the load. Mitchell will hopefully be pressing for señor selection from about round 18 onwards, so there's always the possibility of sticking him on the ball for brief periods if one of our rucks doesn't endure.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Last I checked it's a top 8. Call me deluded but I haven't yet written off season 2012 - starting with a win tomorrow night.

As for resting Kreuzer: Warnock and Hampson will carry the load. Mitchell will hopefully be pressing for señor selection from about round 18 onwards, so there's always the possibility of sticking him on the ball for brief periods if one of our rucks doesn't endure.

OLE!!!!!!

 

[Big_Luch]

I've posted this in the Kreuzer thread and it correlates with what was said on 6PR in Perth the other night ... the word on the street is that the club have been contemplating since Round 4 to end his season prematurely/give him an extended break due to persistant knee complaints on advice from Julian Feller (knee surgeon).

If it was that bad im confident the club wouldnt be playing him. Also if it was that bad wouldnt he require some surgery to correct this problem? And if it is a problem this looks like it could be an on going issue that could plague him for his career, i dont think the club would give him 3 yrs if that was the case.

 

[zeeCFC]

Kreuze named this week.

 

[HARKER]

If it was that bad im confident the club wouldnt be playing him. Also if it was that bad wouldnt he require some surgery to correct this problem? And if it is a problem this looks like it could be an on going issue that could plague him for his career, i dont think the club would give him 3 yrs if that was the case.

I wish you were right.
Let's face it. This seasons injuries have robbed us from having a real shot at things.
We're not going to win over any more members at this stage, nor will we win over any more fans if further players go down.

Let's not take any further chances with players. None.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Kreuze named this week.

Do you honestly expect him to play though?

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Do you honestly expect him to play though?

So it's all part of a 3 month ruse is it? We'll do it every week?

Hate this new layout btw.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

If it was that bad im confident the club wouldnt be playing him.

I agree - so as mentioned earlier, perhaps the club are confident that the issue is manageable.

Also if it was that bad wouldnt he require some surgery to correct this problem?

The report is that Kreuzer is suffering from knee soreness on his joints (which can be linked back to his ACL injury), as far as I am aware, there is no surgical procedure to cure joint soreness, aside from rest and rehabilitation.

And if it is a problem this looks like it could be an on going issue that could plague him for his career, i dont think the club would give him 3 yrs if that was the case.

I don't know about that .. this is the same club that signed a 29 year old Jarred Waite to a 3 year deal at the end of last year when he was crippled by injury. This is also the same club that gave Brock McLean the medical 'all clear' and signed him to an expensive 3 year contract only to have him breakdown continuously.

However you would think the club would take more precautions when it came to a player like Matthew Kreuzer though.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

So it's all part of a 3 month ruse is it? We'll do it every week?

Hate this new layout btw.

We've been playing him all year long, so perhaps the trend will keep going and the club believes the injury is manageable?

Then again, it's not as if the club deliberately names injured players and then pull them last minute (see Chris Yarran/Jarrad Waite/Matthew Kreuzer last week).

Then again this whole thing could turn out to be crap ... it is after all, just a rumour (at this stage).

 

[The Coach]

If it was that bad im confident the club wouldnt be playing him. Also if it was that bad wouldnt he require some surgery to correct this problem? And if it is a problem this looks like it could be an on going issue that could plague him for his career, i dont think the club would give him 3 yrs if that was the case.

If the rumour turned out to be true and that he has some sort of chronic pain at his young age - that can only be helped by rest AND we signed him for a year extra than Gibbsy SHEEZ I would be flabberghasted (which emoticon is that) and on top of the ridiculous Waite contract (you are getting the picture that I am not a sentimentalist) ....... Well I would say that everybody that agreed to such a deal(s) should be sacked

 

[Big_Luch]

I don't know about that .. this is the same club that signed a 29 year old Jarred Waite to a 3 year deal at the end of last year when he was crippled by injury. This is also the same club that gave Brock McLean the medical 'all clear' and signed him to an expensive 3 year contract only to have him breakdown continuously.

However you would think the club would take more precautions when it came to a player like Matthew Kreuzer though.[/quote]

Third times a charm with injury prone players and contracts? haha

 

[Wickzki]

Herald Sun reports that Kreuzer has hamstring soreness.. What's the real story?

 

[gbatman]

Hopefully the Kreuzer thing is all rumors and if not, nothing serious. Would be crap to see him go down the same path as Cooney who has chronic knee problems and because of that will go through his career playing at about 70% of his capacity. This is the worst case scenario but if this is the case then we must trade. Hopefully this is not the case, all Kreuzer needs is a full bill of health and a decent coach that can teach him how to play tall and he will be a star.

 

[Salaryman]

Can't be serious Shirley

 

[The Coach]

Can't be serious Shirley

Shirley=Batman ?

 

[Silvagnis]

Hopefully this is not the case, all Kreuzer needs is a full bill of health and a decent coach that can teach him how to play tall and he will be a star.

Do you even follow Carlton?

 

[The Coach]

Do you even follow Carlton?

No tag-team TG - we are trying for a new friendly not cliquey Carlton board