Ryan Crowley

[nicshata]

How good would it be to play Geelong again in the GF it could get very ugly. Would be great to see

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Your subjective responses were flimsy at bests.

You implied Crowley had no offensive skills meanwhile implying Rawlings does. Yet the facts (stats) are Crowley averages almost as many possessions but averages more goals than Rawlings per game, which are valued higher.

Subjective? Ill repost.

Crowley has averaged over 15 twice in his career. Rawlings has been over 15 eight times in his career including six times over 19 possessions per game. That's not subjective. That's fact.

That's not almost as many. Not even close.

Crowley wouldnt get a game if not for his tagging. Rawlings did.

 

[coldlunch]

The shove appears to be to Crowley's shoulder.

Still an unacceptable reaction to the circumstances and Crowley was right to take it up with Johnson to see what his problem was.

yeah, sorry, more to the shoulder, but still cheap and childish of him.

 

[nicshata]

Subjective? Ill repost.

Crowley has averaged over 15 twice in his career. Rawlings has been over 15 eight times in his career including six times over 19 possessions per game. That's not subjective. That's fact.

That's not almost as many. Not even close.

Crowley wouldnt get a game if not for his tagging. Rawlings did.

Why are you even here seasons over diddums.

 

[maryjames]

Mentally Weve got you lads covered

Not on GF day..

 

[strobe00]

This shows the different in values. Freo favours a stopper whose main focus os the man rather than the ball, we favour ball players such as Brent Harvey, Daniel Wells and Andrew Swallow.

Not to say one side has better values, but they are different.

What is Taylor Hine doing in the team these days then?

Has been very, very effective in limiting his opponent's impact in the games he's played. Was one of the best at limiting his opponent's possession count in a table that was on the AFL website re: taggers a couple of weeks ago. Unless he's playing as a defensive forward or a lockdown defender, then that sounds like a tagger to me.

Makes you a more dangerous team as far as I'm concerned.

 

[nicshata]

Not on GF day..

In finals (when it counts) you are becoming our bitches.

 

[coldlunch]

Subjective? Ill repost.

Crowley has averaged over 15 twice in his career. Rawlings has been over 15 eight times in his career including six times over 19 possessions per game. That's not subjective. That's fact.

That's not almost as many. Not even close.

Crowley wouldnt get a game if not for his tagging. Rawlings did.

does that matter?
would Sandilands get a game if he was only 6 foot?
would Riewoldt get a game if he couldn't stick a mark?
would Ballantyne get a game if he didn't run hard?

this idea that tagging is not a skill and just something you do when you can't do anything else is just nonsense.
if it's that easy, every team would have a Crowley and we wouldn't be talking about him.

 

[Such is life Ben]

Subjective? Ill repost.

Crowley has averaged over 15 twice in his career. Rawlings has been over 15 eight times in his career including six times over 19 possessions per game. That's not subjective. That's fact.

That's not almost as many. Not even close.

Crowley wouldnt get a game if not for his tagging. Rawlings did.

Why chose 15 as your threshold? Look at it over the course of the career or avg per games because Rawlings had played
more games and more seasons given his career is over.

Amazing that Crowley averages more goals per game than such a fantastic, offensive player as Rawlings.

Look my point is made. Crowley is the no 1 tagger in the game at present but can hurt you the other way as has been proven by the stats.

 

[nicshata]

Subjective? Ill repost.

Crowley has averaged over 15 twice in his career. Rawlings has been over 15 eight times in his career including six times over 19 possessions per game. That's not subjective. That's fact.

That's not almost as many. Not even close.

Crowley wouldnt get a game if not for his tagging. Rawlings did.

Sandilands wouldnt get a game if it wasnt for his rucking so whats your point.

Go back to the norths board and talk about how great your team is

 

[ApplecrossWC]

Lol, people are seriously claiming Crowley is a better player than Rawlings? Delusional.

 

[nicshata]

Lol, people are seriously claiming Crowley is a better player than Rawlings? Delusional.

Awww poor north supporters. Always the victim

 

[ApplecrossWC]

Awww poor north supporters. Always the victim

If you have nothing worthwhile to contribute then please don't post

 

[arrow_dactyl]

You could throw around pissweak insults becaue your team will make its 2nd ever prelim, or you could engage some posters opinions that Crowley is an elite tagger but very, very limited in nearly every other aspect of the game.

I agree with you here, his disposal isn't amazing and most of the time he just throws it on his boot to clear the congestion, his marking is good and he's handy for the odd goal. Is he an elite midfielder definitely not, do the Dockers need another elite midfielder, no. Crowley wouldn't be in the team if he wasn't so effective at tagging, and surely by now people can see the value of having a decent tagger in the team, his job foremost his to stop the opposition player's effectiveness after that everything he does is just a bonus. For the record he can win the ball, he got 28 disposals last week against the Saints when he wasn't given a tagging role.

 

[nicshata]

If you have nothing worthwhile to contribute then please don't post

I think i made a valid point and by the way Rawlings would not get a game in our team over the number 1 tagger in the league Crowley

 

[arrow_dactyl]

You could throw around pissweak insults becaue your team will make its 2nd ever prelim, or you could engage some posters opinions that Crowley is an elite tagger but very, very limited in nearly every other aspect of the game.

I agree with you here, his disposal isn't amazing and most of the time he just throws it on his boot to clear the congestion, his marking is good and he's handy for the odd goal. Is he an elite midfielder definitely not, do the Dockers need another elite midfielder, no. Crowley wouldn't be in the team if he wasn't so effective at tagging, and surely by now people can see the value of having a decent tagger in the team, his job foremost his to stop the opposition player's effectiveness after that everything he does is just a bonus. For the record he can win the ball, he got 28 disposals last week against the Saints when he wasn't given a tagging role.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Why are you even here seasons over diddums.

Please post in regards to the thread topic, otherwise I will have no option but to report you.

 

[FyfesBoot]

If you have nothing worthwhile to contribute then please don't post

How about you follow your own advice.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Look my point is made. Crowley is the no 1 tagger in the game at present but can hurt you the other way as has been proven by the stats.

Yes he's the no. 1 tagger, but 8 goals for the year and less than 15 possessions is far from 'hurting' anyone.

Your midfield is so good that you can carry someone like Crowley.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

this idea that tagging is not a skill and just something you do when you can't do anything else is just nonsense.

How many times do Swan, Cotchin, Watson, Pendlebury et al tag?

There is a skill to it, agreed, but no team wastes a gun ball winner/user in tagging roles.

if it's that easy, every team would have a Crowley and we wouldn't be talking about him.

He tags better than anyone at the moment. It's not easy.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

What is Taylor Hine doing in the team these days then?

Has been very, very effective in limiting his opponent's impact in the games he's played. Was one of the best at limiting his opponent's possession count in a table that was on the AFL website re: taggers a couple of weeks ago. Unless he's playing as a defensive forward or a lockdown defender, then that sounds like a tagger to me.

Makes you a more dangerous team as far as I'm concerned.

He's absolutely playing as a tagger. But the reason he got only 14 games is because he hasnt yet learnt to hurt a team with the ball yet.

 

[ApplecrossWC]

How about you follow your own advice.

Because I contribute worthwhile opinions on Bigfooty so that's some poor advice

 

[JungleMuffinFTW]

He averages less than 15 as a midfielder.Our Full back and CHB get more than that.

When he does get it it's laughable what happens with it, assuming he doesnt look to go backwards or a quick sideways handball.

That's because the ball spends most of the game in your defensive half.

 

[FyfesBoot]

Because I contribute worthwhile opinions on Bigfooty so that's some poor advice

Really? What do you call this?

Lol, people are seriously claiming Crowley is a better player than Rawlings? Delusional.

Where is the basis for your argument? Where is the worthwhile opinion?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

North fans. Clueless and irrelevant.

Pleas stay on topic. Ive reported your post.