Rumour Sharrod Wellingham

[Zahki]

I agree with everything but the bolded.

Try not to get too emotional about this sort of stuff.

Wellinghams season this year has been statistically superior to Kerrs, while being behind Swan, Pendlebury, Thomas and Ball in the midfield pecking order. He'd be top 3 in your B&F this year easy. Thats why we're number 1, our 4th best player in any position is comparable to any other clubs best player in that position, simple.

Wellingham would be top dog at West Coast, fact.

 

[Scodog10]

Wellinghams season this year has been statistically superior to Kerrs, while being behind Swan, Pendlebury, Thomas and Ball in the midfield pecking order. He'd be top 3 in your B&F this year easy. Thats why we're number 1, our 4th best player in any position is comparable to any other clubs best player in that position, simple.

Wellingham would be top dog at West Coast, fact.

No he wouldn't Priddis has him covered. If you were picking a team to play for your life tomorrow he'd be number 3 behind Kerr and Priddis (Kerr because he has significant runs on the board) all others would be comparable at the very worst.

 

[Play by Numbers]

then how do u except stevens to get a game for us when our midfield is better than yours ?
your basically giving us a VFL recruit for wellingham

I wouldn't trade him for Wellingham, nor is he a VFL level recruit.

He would be a perfect replacement for Ball though and is a similar type player.

I don't like the idea of us hypothetically trading players, would be happy as I said with our first pick.

 

[Play by Numbers]

No he wouldn't Priddis has him covered. If you were picking a team to play for your life tomorrow he'd be number 3 behind Kerr and Priddis (Kerr because he has significant runs on the board) all others would be comparable at the very worst.

And in the real world Shuey would probably also get preference at WC, because he has far greater potential and is more damaging with his disposal.

Wellingham may have had more of the ball this year but Kerr has been the better clearance player (small sample size of games for Wellingham).

 

[Seppb]

Wellinghams season this year has been statistically superior to Kerrs, while being behind Swan, Pendlebury, Thomas and Ball in the midfield pecking order. He'd be top 3 in your B&F this year easy. Thats why we're number 1, our 4th best player in any position is comparable to any other clubs best player in that position, simple.

Wellingham would be top dog at West Coast, fact.

Statistically... how?

I don't think he'd start in the centre square for West Coast. Eagles normally have 2 of Kerr/Shuey/Priddis/Naitanui sometimes and a tagger (Scott Selwood) in the middle. Wellingham wouldn't replace any of those players, and he certainly wouldn't be in the top 3 of the B&F.

Despite that, I think the Eagles would have to give up a first round pick for him, or at least a 2nd round + a player. Don't know much about Stevens, Collingwood don't really need much with good cover in most positions. Gaff is homesick apparently, he'd be enough surely.

 

[Daics35Marvel]

Apparently is keen to head back home to W.A at some stage.
Would he be worth having a crack at?
Could really compliment our midfield!

Dorra, or Sharrod if that is you, please don't leave the Pies. Just remembering those crumbing goals in GF2, the first 5 games last year, the Melbourne game.... so much bloody talent. Just need to find that consistency to be a top 20 mid in the game. Would be a massive loss for us.

 

[KissStephanie]

Apparently is keen to head back home to W.A at some stage.

It sounds like made-up rubbish to me. I heard he is happy to stay in Melbourne and be a one club player, and when his footy career is over, he would like to spend time in New York City because he is interested in the architecture.

 

[HFF]

Won't be happening any time soon.

Required player.

 

[Pie eyed]

As soon as Wellers name is bandied about in regard to trade I'd be making sure my club was not on the verge of losing a required player for nothing in the PSD.

 

[handy point]

Apparently is keen to head back home to W.A at some stage.
Would he be worth having a crack at?
Could really compliment our midfield!

e.g. 8-10 years time when he retires?

 

[Scodog10]

And in the real world Shuey would probably also get preference at WC, because he has far greater potential and is more damaging with his disposal.

Wellingham may have had more of the ball this year but Kerr has been the better clearance player (small sample size of games for Wellingham).

On your basis for picking Shuey ahead of Wellers Kerr gets moved down leaving Wellers at 3. Because on potential Wellers has more to offer going forward than Kerr.

So again my parameters were that the team is playing for my life tomorrow and because of that he comes out on top of Shuey for the same reason's that I put Kerr on top of Wellers.

Just so there's no confusion I think in the long term both Shuey and Gaff will be better overall. The fact that Wellers would be your third best mid at this stage is evidence as to why Collingwood should win that first final. West Coast simply don't have the numbers to go through the midfield to compete with Collingwood.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

I'll disagree slightly in that I think Wellers is behind Shuey

He may be in front of Priddis - it just depends on the role he would play

We have Scott Selwood play as our main tagger, which is not quite the role I've seen Wellingham play. Wellingham is more of an accountable mmidfielder without completely sacrificing his own game

He would be a tremendous get and would add to our midfield rotation.

I'm not sure he'd crack at our best starting 4 - which at the minute is Cox/NN plus Kerr, Shuey and Selwood. More often than not in the back half of the season Priddis is starting in a pocket. What he does do though is when Priddis and he come into the midfield, we wouldn't lose a lot because I rate him highly.

Our 1st rounder would probably be unders in a weak draft - but it's something you guys may go for - or perhaps K Stevens which I would be loathe to do - but more likely a scenario that would be more palatable to Pies recruiters.

All in all - as has been said it's pie in the sky speculation - but i think he's one of those players equally respected by both parties.

We can all laugh at the aints for turning him down though!!

 

[Dundalis]

Considering sidebottom is top 5 at our club for goals mark handballs AND tackles, whilst wellingham has had a handful of great games on average sidebottom is better.

If we get a great midfielder in this draft his far down our list, seeing next year beams could overtake him (when u add beams forward and midfield ability). His greatly overrated on BF due to he has a few great games please look at his stats and his many many quiet ones. Put a fit shaw and didak into the midfield next year and jeez wellingham starts to slide down the list, and not as flexible as the others.



So yes this was a serious post, ur obviously blinded by a handful of his very good performances (in a very good team, which generally makes it easier)

What crap. So Sidebottom averages more handballs and tackles so he's better? And you go on about Wellingham's quite games, when Sidebottom is the master at having a run of games with absolutely zero effect. Wellingham is far more valuable to the side than Sidebottom, he's a more dynamic player and far more damaging when he run and carrys. He's also an extractor which Sidebottom is not.

 

[TheFreshBanana]

Everyone message Sharrod on twitter if he is Darro on Bigfooty!

 

[beavapleasa]

Had to laugh at the majority of the trade hypotheticals on the West Coast board, thought I was reading the Carlton board. Would think about trading pick #23 for him that should get it done? He's the 5th or 6th best midfielder in his prime in the classiest midfield in the comp, not some old spud on the fringe of a bottom 8 side.

The going rate for #23 over the last 2 trade periods has been Tambling, Hale, Sherman, Gibson & Mumford (exceptional circumstances). Andre Everitt and Wellingham (when he was a fringe player) of 2 years ago were also shopped for mid 20's picks but fell through.

As for Rosa and Stevens being better than Wellingham and prefer to keep them, how about give me a break.

In any case the OP looks like some sick freak stalking Wellingham and this is all complete bullshit.

 

[Shade]

its funny how OP goes for the camry crows

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Our 1st rounder would probably be unders in a weak draft - but it's something you guys may go for - or perhaps K Stevens which I would be loathe to do - but more likely a scenario that would be more palatable to Pies recruiters.

WC ppl who keep suggesting Stevens for the Boot, I just don't see why we'd be interested.

Not that he's crap, he's not & he may one day be v good. But what role/possie would he play? Luke Ball's I'd assume. Well we already have a back up for Ball in the name of Josh Thomas. That would just create a queue for the one possie while robbing us of very different type of midfielder.

 

[smiddaz123]

There's no reason we'd trade Wellingham for Ball. A good player for a potentially good player is pointless, especially for a contending team.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

WC ppl who keep suggesting Stevens for the Boot, I just don't see why we'd be interested.

Not that he's crap, he's not & he may one day be v good. But what role/possie would he play? Luke Ball's I'd assume. Well we already have a back up for Ball in the name of Josh Thomas. That would just create a queue for the one possie while robbing us of very different type of midfielder.

The reality is - to get quality you have to give quality.

Pick 20ish in a weak draft which is a 1st rounder i don't think would get the job done for Wellingham.

Stevens has been dominating the WAFL all season but stuggling to crack the main team due to our surprise resurgence. A strong performing Pick 23 in a quality draft would hold more weight than pick 20ish in 2011's draft. no one is wanting to give Stevens the boot - just going through the list to see who might be able to get he job done.

The idea would be we would be giving up a quality youngster to get Wellingham. I'd hate to lose him - but you have to give quality to get quality.

And to a previous poster - in no way is Stevens at Wellinghams' level yet - but you wouldn't expect that from a 20 year old.

 

[mwalker]

wellingham is on the fringe of our midfield grp and cant really offer much else, if we get a stellar midfielder next year he could really struggle to get a spot in the midfield with beams/sidebottom passing him soon if not already. I would deffinitly have him on the trade table

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Have you watched a game since your join date blaze? He absolutely stepped up when Daisy was out earlier in the year. I would hate to lose Wellers. He is one of the reasons why we bat so deep, has genuine pace and can break the lines. He is deadly at stoppages around the goals too.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

The reality is - to get quality you have to give quality.

Pick 20ish in a weak draft which is a 1st rounder i don't think would get the job done for Wellingham.

Stevens has been dominating the WAFL all season but stuggling to crack the main team due to our surprise resurgence. A strong performing Pick 23 in a quality draft would hold more weight than pick 20ish in 2011's draft. no one is wanting to give Stevens the boot - just going through the list to see who might be able to get he job done.

The idea would be we would be giving up a quality youngster to get Wellingham. I'd hate to lose him - but you have to give quality to get quality.

And to a previous poster - in no way is Stevens at Wellinghams' level yet - but you wouldn't expect that from a 20 year old.

Fair enough, not saying you don't have to give up quality to get quality.

What I'm saying is, I don't see where Stevens fits on our list. In my mind he'd be behind Ball & competing with J.Thomas. I'm more than happy with JT as the back up. So once again, why give up the Boot, a diff mid, for Stevens, a mid we have cover for?

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Fair enough, not saying you don't have to give up quality to get quality.

What I'm saying is, I don't see where Stevens fits on our list. In my mind he'd be behind Ball & competing with J.Thomas. I'm more than happy with JT as the back up. So once again, why give up the Boot, a diff mid, for Stevens, a mid we have cover for?

It's more an idea of trying to find someone of quality - not necessarily wanting to get rid of him.

Ultimately it would come down to how such a player fits into your list.

We'd also have Ash Smith - but running defenders aren't exaclty missing at Collingwood.

For mine - I wouldn't trade Stevens for pick 20ish in this draft - and as such I wouldn't expect Collingwood to accept it for Wellingham if they didn't have to.

Collingwood along with the Bulldogs have been reasonable trading partners with WC over the years - so in the unlikely event this trade did end up happening - it will be roughly square - or as square as it could be given the vagaries of draft selections.

 

[Scotland]

Wellingham (Sangdroper) will play for Collingwood in 2012.
Rosa (Victorian) will play for West Coast in 2012.
Stevens (Victorian) will play sparingly for West Coast in 2012.

You heard it right here, folks!

 

[MarkT2]

Good player but anyone that wouldn't trade him for a quality player and/or pick is nuts. Wellingham & Davis for an early pick would be a good deal for us. Problem is WCE don't have an early pick. If they did a deal with GWS and passed on the pick then it would be worth considering but these deals rarely get done and hold up too many trades

 

[Syphoncom]

Good player but anyone that wouldn't trade him for a quality player and/or pick is nuts. Wellingham & Davis for an early pick would be a good deal for us. Problem is WCE don't have an early pick. If they did a deal with GWS and passed on the pick then it would be worth considering but these deals rarely get done and hold up too many trades

Then hopefully we could pick up a decent player with the pick we got for Wellingham. In a few years, who knows?

He might even be as good as Wellingham!