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So you think Hocking's rules have been successful?
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Should all the rules introduced by current Geelong CEO Stephen Hocking be reversed?
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Yes. More to the point I am flabbergasted as to why as a grown man - presumably - you’re so unable to get over it.
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The data shows they have been moderately successful , get used to that fact.
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The hands in the back rule change was done for what reason exactly?
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So why are you still in here moaning about it
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Because you keep replying to me and misrepresent what reality is.
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You: ‘These changes have made no difference and should be removed.’
Also you: ‘these changes have made a difference.’
You, again: ‘someone ELSE is misrepresenting reality.’
Mate grow some testicles or a spine or both, please. You’re embarrassing yourself as an adult. Your team has gone down the arse end of the ladder and no amount of excuse making and blame disguised as analysis is going to change it. Suck it up, and move on.
Lot of Geelong supporters defending old sHocking. The guy is a ****ing peanut and his change of role to Geelong CEO was an extreme conflict of interest.
It would be good to see how many goals per game have been added due to bullshit 50m penalties because of the stand rule, or sHockings other rules.
On the rules, the other one that needs to go is the sliding rule. It should only be a free kick if you go sliding in feet or knees first and contact another player. For years players have dived on the ball with outstretched arms, an oppo player will clumsily go tripping over them, and win a free kick. Archer from North got suspended this year when he technically should've got a free kick due to this dogs breakfast of a rule.
It would be good to see how many goals per game have been added due to bullshit 50m penalties because of the stand rule, or sHockings other rules.
On the rules, the other one that needs to go is the sliding rule. It should only be a free kick if you go sliding in feet or knees first and contact another player. For years players have dived on the ball with outstretched arms, an oppo player will clumsily go tripping over them, and win a free kick. Archer from North got suspended this year when he technically should've got a free kick due to this dogs breakfast of a rule.
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Shut up you cabbage
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Nah, good one. That’s added a lot of weight to your already shit excuse making.
Never mind that, i just watched Greg Swann's initial presser and almost threw up all over the place! Is it a pre requisite not to know anything at all about the game to get a job at the AFL? No bounce, shorter Qtrs, pointing at the scoreboard is a no no. Utter madness !
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See that danger? Even your own clubs fans don’t want shorter quarters
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For fairness, if the man on the mark is nailed there til the ump calls play on, the player with the ball shouldn't be able to start play either.
Nobody wants shorter QTRs, but the AFL will go ahead and do exactly what the fans don't want! He also approves of 50 metres for pointing to scoreboard, but nothing for Darcy Moore crashing into a players back ...LATE? This bloke is going to be trouble! As for the bounce, it must be kept for the beginning of the game and at least the start of each QTR! As usual the AFL will recklessly tamper away with the game.
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And for those games televised by Ch 7, TV ad breaks after a goal which delay the restart of play. Ch 7 can run ads along the bottom of the screen.
I think the best question ever asked and without a doubt this bloke changed the game from near the beginnings of the Demetriou and McClachlan era of non-stop rule changes and interpretations, to the point where every weekend finished, the free kick was debated by the fans? And the media. To a degree.
Not so much the number of frees. Someone told me the other day the older times saw 80 frees a match, I think who ever said that knew and knows nothing of the game.
So numbers I guess are not the argument but how grey rules were interpreted and how petty incidentals and accidental touching's became a free kick, and many times players not knowing what for.
Then we'd see the pay back free from some umpires.
It really has become a farce. And for long long term followers of this sport, it can be seen so blatantly clearly
in front of your eyes.
When the bloke or woman sitting in the stand looks at his next seat neighbor, and says,
"What was that for???" About a thousand times.
Or the bloke or woman fan sitting at home throws a brick through the TV set because some petty ridiculousness causes the opposition to kick a goal. And your not sure why. And it doesn't just happen once, any wonder you turn off.
It never happened so often as it does these days, out on the full is an insanity of unfairness, 4 umpires is stupid.
The overkill of serious heavy tackle punishments when the hits are part of the contact
(disregarding of course the biff, that's not what I am talking about)
then add this last touch, how will it work?
It means every player who touches the ball under pressure, last touch gives away a free kick, no ones explained how an umpire picks it out, or if the opposing player just picks the ball up, and kicks it with the last toucher having to "STAND" Like Basketball?
Ruck infringement are stupid, the centre bounce should be a non free kick zone, it is the epicenter of the conflict, the run out of centre bounce is one of the most important parts of the game, yet we see it used by smart players to create frees. Or just an umpire wild guessing some petty infringements , the game is not invented for petty frees, it a hard sport.
The game is not a free kick sport. Its a contest and a contact, and umpires now, without a doubt, are in total control with the rule manipulating and the money floating around in this game and the gambling in this game, that when your side wins , sometimes you wonder???
And if there's a person on here, who thinks their own team hasn't been given a few gifts over time by umpires, you are blind.
That is what a free kick regime looks like, the AFL's run a sport, that has changed our game and there is no doubt with such difficulty to follow with non black and white rulings, why fiddle with the sport.
In the first place!
The other malfunction is the fact that the AFL have definitely made the game different in the way they have changed interpretation of tackle bump etc,.
Also!!!
TO NOT HAVE, SET IN PLACE INSURANCE, TO COVER ALL PLAYERS IN THIS VERY HARD GAME WE PLAY, SO AS NOT!!!!!! TO HAVE THE LIKES OF EX PLAYERS!!!!!
SUEING CLUBS AND OFFICIALS AND THE AFL AS WELL.
There should not be a single player that has taken the risk in playing Australian football, that should not be covered for brain injury or anything, but there are those who are.
THEY SHOULD BE COVERED FOR LIFE! AT ELITE LEVEL AND LOWER LEAGUES. It should be a compulsory insurance scheme.
Why do players think they need to sue when they get unwell?
The only thing can be is they not be properly covered by some kind of insurance???
And look at the AFL and their huge money gathering operations. They can afford policy, then NOT CHANGE THE SPORT!
And what has it caused? Well, rule change after rule change and the game softened, umpired into the ground and some games won and lost because of tricky interpretations from umpires or even something else?? And of course your team having suspended players for sometimes just playing footy.
We have all been hoodwinked and seen things that should not be in OUR GAME
Australian Rules Football is not the AFL's game. Here we go again another set of changes, and a wild card match, for money making, and to give also-rans another undeserving chance at finals.
Which they have no hope of winning. We have two divisions now too.
Somebody tell me this is a big joke, and how does last touch work?
Not so much the number of frees. Someone told me the other day the older times saw 80 frees a match, I think who ever said that knew and knows nothing of the game.
So numbers I guess are not the argument but how grey rules were interpreted and how petty incidentals and accidental touching's became a free kick, and many times players not knowing what for.
Then we'd see the pay back free from some umpires.
It really has become a farce. And for long long term followers of this sport, it can be seen so blatantly clearly
in front of your eyes.
When the bloke or woman sitting in the stand looks at his next seat neighbor, and says,
"What was that for???" About a thousand times.
Or the bloke or woman fan sitting at home throws a brick through the TV set because some petty ridiculousness causes the opposition to kick a goal. And your not sure why. And it doesn't just happen once, any wonder you turn off.
It never happened so often as it does these days, out on the full is an insanity of unfairness, 4 umpires is stupid.
The overkill of serious heavy tackle punishments when the hits are part of the contact
(disregarding of course the biff, that's not what I am talking about)
then add this last touch, how will it work?
It means every player who touches the ball under pressure, last touch gives away a free kick, no ones explained how an umpire picks it out, or if the opposing player just picks the ball up, and kicks it with the last toucher having to "STAND" Like Basketball?
Ruck infringement are stupid, the centre bounce should be a non free kick zone, it is the epicenter of the conflict, the run out of centre bounce is one of the most important parts of the game, yet we see it used by smart players to create frees. Or just an umpire wild guessing some petty infringements , the game is not invented for petty frees, it a hard sport.
The game is not a free kick sport. Its a contest and a contact, and umpires now, without a doubt, are in total control with the rule manipulating and the money floating around in this game and the gambling in this game, that when your side wins , sometimes you wonder???
And if there's a person on here, who thinks their own team hasn't been given a few gifts over time by umpires, you are blind.
That is what a free kick regime looks like, the AFL's run a sport, that has changed our game and there is no doubt with such difficulty to follow with non black and white rulings, why fiddle with the sport.
In the first place!
The other malfunction is the fact that the AFL have definitely made the game different in the way they have changed interpretation of tackle bump etc,.
Also!!!
TO NOT HAVE, SET IN PLACE INSURANCE, TO COVER ALL PLAYERS IN THIS VERY HARD GAME WE PLAY, SO AS NOT!!!!!! TO HAVE THE LIKES OF EX PLAYERS!!!!!
SUEING CLUBS AND OFFICIALS AND THE AFL AS WELL.
There should not be a single player that has taken the risk in playing Australian football, that should not be covered for brain injury or anything, but there are those who are.
THEY SHOULD BE COVERED FOR LIFE! AT ELITE LEVEL AND LOWER LEAGUES. It should be a compulsory insurance scheme.
Why do players think they need to sue when they get unwell?
The only thing can be is they not be properly covered by some kind of insurance???
And look at the AFL and their huge money gathering operations. They can afford policy, then NOT CHANGE THE SPORT!
And what has it caused? Well, rule change after rule change and the game softened, umpired into the ground and some games won and lost because of tricky interpretations from umpires or even something else?? And of course your team having suspended players for sometimes just playing footy.
We have all been hoodwinked and seen things that should not be in OUR GAME
Australian Rules Football is not the AFL's game. Here we go again another set of changes, and a wild card match, for money making, and to give also-rans another undeserving chance at finals.
Which they have no hope of winning. We have two divisions now too.
Somebody tell me this is a big joke, and how does last touch work?
It’s like you enjoy people making fun of you.
If you think the Richmond dynasty was tumbled over by a couple of small rule changes, then you are implying and making a strong case that Richmond side was not adaptable or as talented as it may have appeared at the time.
More like knocking over a stack of cards as opposed a brick wall
You take away any one of the following and Geelong's 'dynasties' tumble
-AFL turning a blind eye to the drug cheating in you 07-11 dynasty.
-AFL turning a blind eye to payer payments in kind outside the salary cap.
-By far the biggest home ground advantage in the comp, with a home ground who's asymmetrical proportions would not be acceptable for any other club in the AFL or any other league.
-Massive tax payer subsidies.
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No different to the rule that Collingwood never will have to play a game at Geelong’s home ground. At least Geelong has played Fogs at Marvel in recent years
