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Just read through this, a lot of people calling for unionising. Clearly haven't watched The Irishman... Unions only lead to Italians and Irish whacking people. It's what it is.
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Interesting - the only thing unions ever achieved eh?Just read through this, a lot of people calling for unionising. Clearly haven't watched The Irishman... Unions only lead to Italians and Irish whacking people. It's what it is.
You dont complain about socialism? You are pro socialist?In which threads do I complain about millennials embracing socialism? Please post evidence.
Bomberboyokay is incapable of any thought.
Interesting - the only thing unions ever achieved eh?
I must have missed the bit where billionaires just decided to hand out 40 hour weeks and wage increases etc etc etc out of the kindness of their hearts.
Isnt it an amazing coincidence that since unionism has been demonised by the right and union membership has gone down that pay and conditions for workers has gone to shit.
Make no mistake there have been some terrible corrupt unions - sda - blf etc - but as a collective they have done more for workers rights than just about anything else - look at where weve come from the industrial revolution level of workers rights to now.
None of that was just handed over - it was fought for by unions
Unions have done an awful lot of good for workers rights even if they have done things the wrong way. However they caused a lot of problems for consumer rights, consumer prices, start up companies, business investment, business efficiency and the unemployed.Interesting - the only thing unions ever achieved eh?
I must have missed the bit where billionaires just decided to hand out 40 hour weeks and wage increases etc etc etc out of the kindness of their hearts.
Isnt it an amazing coincidence that since unionism has been demonised by the right and union membership has gone down that pay and conditions for workers has gone to shit.
Make no mistake there have been some terrible corrupt unions - sda - blf etc - but as a collective they have done more for workers rights than just about anything else - look at where weve come from the industrial revolution level of workers rights to now.
None of that was just handed over - it was fought for by unions
You complain about socialism more than I do.You dont complain about socialism? You are pro socialist?
I know what i believe, im asking what you do?You complain about socialism more than I do.
I asked where I had complained about socialism and you have failed to provide evidence, so consider this my point made.I know what i believe, im asking what you do?
Your a socialist sympathiszer. Fair enough.I asked where I had complained about socialism and you have failed to provide evidence, so consider this my point made.
Your a socialist sympathiszer. Fair enough.
Lol, never change Seeds.Your a socialist sympathiszer. Fair enough.
Ps. Socialists dont like independent stores.
He’s on the spectrum.Holy shit, dude - are you actually looking at your replies? Genuinely seems like you have no idea how to have a conversation.
F*** me you gave him a deflection opening and he used it. What a waste of time.Holy shit, dude - are you actually looking at your replies? Genuinely seems like you have no idea how to have a conversation.
I thought i was out of jokesThe only thing you missed was that it was a joke...
F*** me you gave him a deflection opening and he used it. What a waste of time.
Isnt it an amazing coincidence that since unionism has been demonised by the right and union membership has gone down that pay and conditions for workers has gone to shit.
Make no mistake there have been some terrible corrupt unions - sda - blf etc
Wage rises have stagnated in Australia due to massive immigration - which has been supported by both major parties at Federal and State level.
It's not like there have just been a couple of rogue unions. While Bill Shorten was national secretary of the Australian Workers Union, union membership fees were being paid by companies such as Winslow Constructors and Austral Bricks in return for reduced workers' entitlements. It was described as a beauty contest, where lower wages would be accepted in order to maximise the AWU's membership and lock other unions out. This boosted the AWU's power at Labor conference and for election candidate preselection. As far as their union leaders are concerned the purpose of Australian trades unions is to provide them with a route into parliament.
This is a phenomenon where the millenial style crowd demands justice and fairness but then financially support the mega social media and mega retail businesses that definently aren't the good guys
The last few years there has been countless news stories about large companies and small underpaying their workers. Wage theft from deliv=berate underpaying, no penalty rates, illusory traineeships, employment contracts that disadvantage their staff.
Woolworths and Grill’d as two recent examples
https://www.smh.com.au/business/com...ow-wages-and-food-safety-20191205-p53hbm.html
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6465506/woolworths-underpaid-staff-by-up-to-300m/
Woolworths is one of Australia’s Top 10 companies, ubiquitous in media and location, widely held in Superfunds and self managed retiree funds.
This is a company with 18 million visits per week
Griil’d is an overpriced burger joint that has done remarkably well. They have expanded to around 150 stores. Part of that success can be put down to ripping off workers and churning staff, while overworking the remaining staff
Is there any point for workers in service an retail to work hard and give a fu** about their hobs or emplyers? The reward for effort is to be underpaid and overworked.
If the companies and bosses don't give a shit, why should the workers?
Because if you don't give a shit, you can be unemployed.
What about finding other work, which pays better, while you are still employed. At least then, you have something to go to.
Being unemployed sucks, and Newstart doesn't pay much more than being underpaid on wages.
I see it more as workers coming to Coles or Woolies and just doing the minimum they have to. No attempted customer interaction, not caring about freshness of product, not caring about whether the goods sell or not.
If the employer doesn't care about them why should they give a shit about the employer's business?