Solution to empty seats

[RussellEbertHandball]

Another idea, would be to have more flexible membership options. Particularly for Port. Why not have a five game membership where you get to nominate at the start of the season what games you want to go to.

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The swans have been doing a 4/5 game membership pass for about 8 years now. They have been pushing it for the 3 games at the Olympic Stadium plus 1 or 2 at the SCG. It's a way of selling tickets to western Sydney sports/footy fans to get some sort of crowd at an 80,000 seat stadium. About 1/3 of Swans members refuse to travel to Homebush, Also SCG members tend to boycott those games.

It's worked so far, but I'm not sure how it would go in Adelaide. Firstly it's a different market and secondly the Olympic Stadium capacity allows for a lot more flexibility than Footy Park.

Like the seat resale idea it all involves a cost benefit analysis. The SANFL/AFC/PAFC might not think there is enough upside in trying the changes.

 

[bringbackbucky]

I must be too.

I go to quite a few Port games, particularly those against the good teams, and thoroughly enjoy them and the atmosphere as well.

I must say though, when I'm a neutral supporter at these games, the umpires seem to umpire so much better.

When you're surrounded by so much teal, black and white, it almost feels like you've infiltrated behind enemy lines.

They're not a pretty sight close up.

The umpiring is definitely the first thing that you notice as a neutral supporter. Im not sure that it looks an better, just equally bad for both teams

I try to pass on my cat 1 ticket whenever im not using it and i would hope most crowies do the same. Sure would be nice to get some cash back though...

 

[cro_Magnum]

The Crows often "sell-out" a stadium that still has 10,000 empty seats. Here is a solution. Why doesn't the club -or whoever actually does the ticketing and membership- have a seat buy back scheme. The way this would work is that if as a member you are not going to attend a game you could call a number a day or two in advance and cash in your ticket. Lets say half the value of the ticket would be credited to your account. The club could then re-sell the ticket. You could even have cheaper "on the day" ticket sales.

This would benfit the club as they would effectively be selling the same ticket twice. It also provides a financial incentive to the member to make sure the ticket is actually used. Whadda reckon?

Apparently when a very similar system was used, only 10-20 tickets a week became available. Management also say that the current match day tickets either just sell out or sometimes don't even do that, so they don't really need any more tickets available for sale on the day.

 

[jc67]

How about a "reserves Squad" of suporters.
Simply fill up the shed and at quater time (or earlier) let em in for 1/2 price.
Even if you dont get in its still a day at the footy (sort of).
This way makes it easy for the no shows as they dont have to do anything at all.

 

[adelcrows]

The Crows often "sell-out" a stadium that still has 10,000 empty seats. Here is a solution. Why doesn't the club -or whoever actually does the ticketing and membership- have a seat buy back scheme. The way this would work is that if as a member you are not going to attend a game you could call a number a day or two in advance and cash in your ticket. Lets say half the value of the ticket would be credited to your account. The club could then re-sell the ticket. You could even have cheaper "on the day" ticket sales.

This would benfit the club as they would effectively be selling the same ticket twice. It also provides a financial incentive to the member to make sure the ticket is actually used. Whadda reckon?

I would love it if they did this, the West Coast Eagles do it and it works a treat, I have had a season ticket for 3 years now but I hardly get to use it, I was moving to Adelaide and still am so Im not going to give it up and im in Europe at the moment, I gave it to my cousin to use this season but they hardly ahve the time, I would love to sell it off weekly for a cheaper price, i'd be quite happy with a third even, I feel bad that its always empty but as I said, I did my 3-4 years on the waiting list so Im not going to just say here have it back now, apparently if I sell it yearly for a really cheap price to anyone then they will take it off me so it has to be left empty
Anyway I totally agree with you, they complain about empty seats, there is something they can do about it...
Jason
Go The Crows

Also CMON LIVERPOOL, since ive been over here ive gotten into the soccer a bit (Ill never call it football) and my team, MIGHTY LIVERPOOL is in the Champion League final and the Crows are doin just fine

 

[Minotaur]

Apparently when a very similar system was used, only 10-20 tickets a week became available. Management also say that the current match day tickets either just sell out or sometimes don't even do that, so they don't really need any more tickets available for sale on the day.

There is no buy on the day culuture for the Crows because there is an assumption that the stadium will be sold out. I think people tend not to pass on their tickets because it is just too much of a hazzle. Getting the tickets and giving them back can be a pain unless it is a neighbour or someone you see at work everyday - and then of course it needs to be someone you can trust!

 

[arrowman]

There is no buy on the day culuture for the Crows because there is an assumption that the stadium will be sold out.

I agree. Who's going to turn up to the stadium because they might get a ticket?

(On the other hand, I think the idea of having a crowd in the Shed, with the game on TV, as merit)

I think people tend not to pass on their tickets because it is just too much of a hazzle. Getting the tickets and giving them back can be a pain unless it is a neighbour or someone you see at work everyday - and then of course it needs to be someone you can trust!

Agree again. I actually know very few people who would want to use my tickets, who haven't already got tickets of their own. If I decide / find out on Wednesday (say) that I'm not going to the game, I'm not going to spend hours on the phone Wed and Thurs night trying to find someone to use my tickets, and I'm certainly not lending them to a stranger.

I think the thing about the resale of unused season tickets is - you can't expect it to be successfull immediately because of the culture / mindset changes needed among supporters. You have to invest in it, give it time to catch on. I can't believe we don't have the technology / ability to do it )although looking at some of the stuffups that BASS manages to make, I can see why you'd be cautious).

 

[bringbackbucky]

I think the mechanics of making it happen is easy.

You simply call BASS by say, Monday 5pm to let them know you dont want to use your season ticket this week. They then cancel your barcode for that week so that the ticket is unusable and then credit an amount to your credit card. They can then create a new barcode that relates to your seat for that week only and produce a paper ticket that becomes available for sale on the tuesday or wednesday.

I think you will find that Triggy is actually pushing pretty hard for this behind the scenes but is getting little to no response from BASS or the SANFL. Typical case of the 'too hard basket' mentatlity that exists in this state...

 

[crowie]

Bass are working on getting technology where every season ticket holder is given his/her season pass plus individual tickets for each game. When the season ticket holder isn't going to a game they can then phone bass and block their season ticket for the game and authorise the bar code on the secondary ticket for that particular game. What you do with it is up to you, sell it on or give it away.

What it does then is eliminate the worry of lending your season passes to people that you barely know.

It isn't going to be around for a year or two though.

 

[mr snip]

The Crows often "sell-out" a stadium that still has 10,000 empty seats. Here is a solution. Why doesn't the club -or whoever actually does the ticketing and membership- have a seat buy back scheme. The way this would work is that if as a member you are not going to attend a game you could call a number a day or two in advance and cash in your ticket. Lets say half the value of the ticket would be credited to your account. The club could then re-sell the ticket. You could even have cheaper "on the day" ticket sales.

This would benfit the club as they would effectively be selling the same ticket twice. It also provides a financial incentive to the member to make sure the ticket is actually used. Whadda reckon?

A lot of valid points are being made for the resale of tickets . I personally think this is only a smaller issue. Society is becoming a lot busier or is that lazier depending from what perspective you are looking.

I think the real issue is the tv coverage the incentives to go to games are being taken away by having a telecast of the game, which is only delayed by 30 minutes. Previously you use to go to the game and then come home and watch the replay. Now days you are lucky to see any of the game by the time you get home.

I believe the crowd issue is only going to get worse when the weather sets in and you have to make the choice between the warm dry lounge room sipping a few coldies or the rain at AAMI. I know what atmosphere I want to experience the game but I can't answer that for all the dead heads who sit in my area and never appear to make any noise in suport of the team. They might as well be at home anyway as they are just denying a true a supporter the chance to barrack and support his/her team anyway

 

[Fergus]

A lot of valid points are being made for the resale of tickets . I personally think this is only a smaller issue. Society is becoming a lot busier or is that lazier depending from what perspective you are looking.

I think the real issue is the tv coverage the incentives to go to games are being taken away by having a telecast of the game, which is only delayed by 30 minutes. Previously you use to go to the game and then come home and watch the replay. Now days you are lucky to see any of the game by the time you get home.

I believe the crowd issue is only going to get worse when the weather sets in and you have to make the choice between the warm dry lounge room sipping a few coldies or the rain at AAMI. I know what atmosphere I want to experience the game but I can't answer that for all the dead heads who sit in my area and never appear to make any noise in suport of the team. They might as well be at home anyway as they are just denying a true a supporter the chance to barrack and support his/her team anyway

I agree snippy - the TV coverage is a major factor. I have had many people say to me that they might go, might not because the replay starts so close to actual game time. Generally they don't go, particularly if the weather isn't perfect.
I remember back when we first came into the AFL bolting back to the car so I could get home to watch the full replay. That's how it should be.

 

[relapse]

Why not have a lottery for Cat 2 members who attends every game.
Their seat numbers would go into a barrel at the end of the year and win a big prize. ie Toyota could put a car up as a prize or something. Give everyone an incentive to either go to every game or pass their tickets to someone they know to go when they cant.

Someone rang with a similar idea on 5AA that is a bloody good idea and one which I think would really work. I would definately not miss a match if I knew that by missing one match I would miss out on going into a chance to win a car.

People pay $2 for a one in a 100,000 chance to win a car and I am sure people would make sure someone used their ticket if it meant that you could win a car.