Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2026 - Part 2

[daniel_4tw]

Also the sallaries are not big enough vs the other sports. Fine to make a man pack up and move his family for 30M a year. But when these guys are on 200... hard to do that

This doesn’t make sense to me.

If you’re an 18 year old kid in the draft standing to earn $100k - you are expected to go anywhere in the country. Getting paid a million dollars? Nah couldn’t possibly move you even down the road.

While I agree wages should probably be a little better especially for the bottom end, setting the expectation that this job requires you to move to a different state shouldn’t be too hard to include in the collective bargaining agreement. And if players don’t like it then they can play VFL or SANFL or whatever instead and get to stay in their state and being paid to reflect this.

If they must bring in some restrictions:

• Can only be traded when contracted if your on more than 500k a year (stops the poor players that are struggling to make ends meet uproot their lives..)
• Clubs must pay $50k ‘moving’ allowance (outside of cap) when trading in from a different city (fix the cost to move their life. they can rent if they want)
• Can’t trade a player to a different state less than 5 years since they’ve moved (provide some stability)

Completely spitballing but the idea is that allowing for a fairer competition is not feasible or overly onerous is just not true.

Right now the players are wanting all the good stuff from the US (millions dollars a year, sponsorships outside the game, long breaks and byes , Free Agency, etc) without the negatives of US sport (can be traded anywhere without consent).

We have a salary cap but it does nothing when clubs can’t use it to trade in players because they’re undesirable. North will never win another flag while we will see Geelong, Collingwood, Brisbane and Hawks share the premiership amongst themselves. It’s getting the EPL level.

 

[Runnin Blue]

Didn’t the Crows offer a big deal to Will Hayward

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a few years ago which he rejected? And now he is on the table and the club is not interested? I find that kind of peculiar.

I’m not advocating for recruiting him. I just find the lack of interest strange.

 

[kirky]

Also the sallaries are not big enough vs the other sports. Fine to make a man pack up and move his family for 30M a year. But when these guys are on 200... hard to do that

How many NFL or NBA players are earning $30m per year?

How many AFL players on $200k? And how many are actually married with kids in the early-mid 20’s?

Moving from Adelaide to Melbourne is like moving from LA to San Francisco - and even Melbourne to Sydney isn’t much longer.

I get it going to Perth is a whole different scenario tho.

 

[Cromulant]

Didn’t the Crows offer a big deal to Will Hayward a few years ago which he rejected? And now he is on the table and the club is not interested? I find that kind of peculiar.

I’m not advocating for recruiting him. I just find the lack of interest strange.

Sometimes a way the player and/or manager reject you could leave a bitter taste perhaps.

 

[Jetwa5h]

How many NFL or NBA players are earning $30m per year?

How many AFL players on $200k? And how many are actually married with kids in the early-mid 20’s?

Moving from Adelaide to Melbourne is like moving from LA to San Francisco - and even Melbourne to Sydney isn’t much longer.

I get it going to Perth is a whole different scenario tho.

Yea Nah.....there playing a professional sport its time they stopped acting like entitled mummies boys (well some do) and went were the market dictates or as i said they can go back to TAFE, UNI and/or get a normal job where they can live down the road from there mum

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Sometimes a way the player and/or manager reject you could leave a bitter taste perhaps.

I hate that this might be true. If it's good for the club, get it done. Bruised egos and hurt feelings shouldn't come into it.

 

[Mostyn]

I have done that for significantly less, twice. You go where the work is.

A lot of people wouldn't move states for $200k. That's not life changing money.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Yea Nah.....there playing a professional sport its time they stopped acting like entitled mummies boys (well some do) and went were the market dictates or as i said they can go back to TAFE, UNI and/or get a normal job where they can live down the road from there mum

The only way to kill the argument and end state v state is to remove the power of the players over a set duration during their career. The clubs having to get permission from the players to trade them almost to a club of the players choice is the biggest taking of the piss in professional sport history.

 

[Mostyn]

You cant be serious......They have options like get a real job

Yeah, you'd potentially have guys in their mid 20s who WOULD leave the game if that happened. You can't force a player to change states if they're only on $200k. If they're on an average AFL wage or above, sure

 

[adelaidecrows]

Yeah, you'd potentially have guys in their mid 20s who WOULD leave the game if that happened. You can't force a player to change states if they're only on $200k. If they're on an average AFL wage or above, sure

You are aware major league draftees and fringe players are on job level minimum wage toiling in the minors and are expected to be told where to go at all times. Make no mistake, the players here get it exceptionally good in comparison to like every professional sport in the world.

 

[Amacca 23]

Yeah, you'd potentially have guys in their mid 20s who WOULD leave the game if that happened. You can't force a player to change states if they're only on $200k. If they're on an average AFL wage or above, sure

It bad enough when you have players being drafted saying they dont want to go interstate.Its time the afl put a stop to this , if you don't want to go anywhere DONT nominate for the draft?

 

[Jetwa5h]

Yeah, you'd potentially have guys in their mid 20s who WOULD leave the game if that happened. You can't force a player to change states if they're only on $200k. If they're on an average AFL wage or above, sure

Well then let them leave the game, spent 35 years in the military so im sorry you will never convince me that having to move is any more than the crying of entitled mummies boys. They need to realise they have a talent and if they want to get paid to use that talent then a move may be required whether they like it or not

 

[spenze]

Didn’t the Crows offer a big deal to Will Hayward a few years ago which he rejected? And now he is on the table and the club is not interested? I find that kind of peculiar.

I’m not advocating for recruiting him. I just find the lack of interest strange.

Maybe because we are getting AhChee there is no need for Hayward and we probvably aren't paying AhChee 800k which I think was Haywards contract

 

[Cromulant]

I hate that this might be true. If it's good for the club, get it done. Bruised egos and hurt feelings shouldn't come into it.

Same might go for the player too, just doesnt want to join.

Personally I dont think he adds anything that Ah Chee doesn't already, just a poorer finals record.

 

[GreyCrow]

This doesn’t make sense to me.

If you’re an 18 year old kid in the draft standing to earn $100k - you are expected to go anywhere in the country. Getting paid a million dollars? Nah couldn’t possibly move you even down the road.

While I agree wages should probably be a little better especially for the bottom end, setting the expectation that this job requires you to move to a different state shouldn’t be too hard to include in the collective bargaining agreement. And if players don’t like it then they can play VFL or SANFL or whatever instead and get to stay in their state and being paid to reflect this.

If they must bring in some restrictions:

• Can only be traded when contracted if your on more than 500k a year (stops the poor players that are struggling to make ends meet uproot their lives..)
• Clubs must pay $50k ‘moving’ allowance (outside of cap) when trading in from a different city (fix the cost to move their life. they can rent if they want)
• Can’t trade a player to a different state less than 5 years since they’ve moved (provide some stability)

Completely spitballing but the idea is that allowing for a fairer competition is not feasible or overly onerous is just not true.

Right now the players are wanting all the good stuff from the US (millions dollars a year, sponsorships outside the game, long breaks and byes , Free Agency, etc) without the negatives of US sport (can be traded anywhere without consent).

We have a salary cap but it does nothing when clubs can’t use it to trade in players because they’re undesirable. North will never win another flag while we will see Geelong, Collingwood, Brisbane and Hawks share the premiership amongst themselves. It’s getting the EPL level.

These are good ones to work on and I would add some more

Draftees are signed to a 3 year contract and can NOT be traded. JHF plays 3 years at North

After 3 years you can be traded to the STATE of your choice. The team is determined by the best trade for the club

After 6 years you can be traded to any club you choose

 

[CROUCH #2]

Any rumour threads I've had on J.Steele are dead quiet atm.

 

[Jetwa5h]

These are good ones to work on and I would add some more

Draftees are signed to a 3 year contract and can NOT be traded. JHF plays 3 years at North

After 3 years you can be traded to the STATE of your choice. The team is determined by the best trade for the club

After 6 years you can be traded to any club you choose

No....it should be

Reid - (picks up phone) Hey Sos before you slam your laptop ....we need a mid and (whomever) is not getting many mid minutes and he is the type we need.

Sos - Funny f...cker you are well we need a shutdown full back type how about we swap

Or something similar, the only caveat would be that the clubs pick up all the moving and relocation costs

 

[adelaidecrows]

Didn’t the Crows offer a big deal to Will Hayward a few years ago which he rejected? And now he is on the table and the club is not interested? I find that kind of peculiar.

I’m not advocating for recruiting him. I just find the lack of interest strange.

Probably moved past him. We have other options, we have guys we need to find games for plus new list strategies with a want to find and attract a premier mid. hayward doesnt really fit into that especially since we have Ah Chee. He chose to roll the dice and stay with Sydney and he misread the tea leaves.

 

[Daniel6]

I think you need to remember, this board for a long time, fawned over redhorse ....hung off their every word, and tagged the poster incessantly

It's therefore hard to suddenly say he's a troll now, after all that's gone B4 ......just because now, you don't like what he posts, but loved the same content b4

With all due respect to him/her, I have no idea about the history of this person posting.

My comment was a generalisation regarding post made on internet forums. Not directed towards one person.

 

[Syd Crow]

A lot of people wouldn't move states for $200k. That's not life changing money.

Ever been unemployed with skills only suitable for a specialist industry, especially in Adelaide? I'm guessing the answer is no.

 

[1990crow]

A lot of people wouldn't move states for $200k. That's not life changing money.

For the average person? Strongly disagree.

 

[Cromulant]

For the average person? Strongly disagree.

Ive moved for less.

 

[1990crow]

Ever been unemployed with skills only suitable for a specialist industry, especially in Adelaide? I'm guessing the answer is no.

Exactly. I work in construction industry and if work were to dry up in one place for whatever reason I'd have to move.

 

[Syd Crow]

For the average person? Strongly disagree.

Must be nice to be earning near $200K.

 

[CromradeCromulent]

Ew