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Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2025 - Part 2

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I feel like in the current AFL landscape and how both SA teams are up against it, that Port, and other teams, would do well to do us a favour and not select Ah Chee in the PSD.

Send a message that the PSD threat is real to these northern state campaigners.
 
StickerMan said:
I feel like in the current AFL landscape and how both SA teams are up against it, that Port, and other teams, would do well to do us a favour and not select Ah Chee in the PSD.

Send a message that the PSD threat is real to these northern state campaigners.
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Dude not a single expert predicts Ah Chee will be stolen. He will be doing pre season with the Crows, he wont have any communication with other clubs. Most clubs wont have any room for the PSD anyway and with the Crows heavily front loading his contract combined will merely kill the minimal risk. All clubs know not to poach via the draft anyway. Its only ever happened with Stevens but Carlton offered him a deal weeks before and he took it and went to train for them. I think we are just worried for nothing. It would have to defy history for it to occur.
 

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Thrillthorpe7 said:
He literally was the reason we won a couple of huge games this year, most notably the 1st Showdown and then the Collingwood game. There’s a reason two clubs have tried to poach him across the last 2 years and why he was in the AA squad.

He goes for risky kicks, that’s the licence he’s given. He beats the majority of top line KPFs. We are just lucky to get him signed for 4 years at the end of 2024.

A straight swap for a speculative young mid would rightfully go down as the worst trade this club has ever done.
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Correct.
Keane was huge this year.

Like others he wasnt amazing in the finals, but he certainly wasnt alone there.
 
Thrillthorpe7 said:
Same with Collingwood, he just wanted to escape the footy bubble. I reckon he would’ve gone with Geelong if they still had any interest.

Still no idea why the Giants went for him, he just doesn’t fit their team at all.
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Kelly's hip is why they need him. I don't think they knew until the end of the season that he'd need surgery again and how bad the prognosis was. Oliver is an immediate replacement as long as they can keep him on the straight and narrow.
 
Mr MysteryGuest said:
Twomey says an alternative Brisbane offer was our 2026 and 2027 second rounders .

A little surprised we didn’t accept that
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hmmm thats not what dom ambrosio said.
ambrosio wanted F2 plus us to slide from 16 to 23. thats a shit deal for uncontracted B grader.

i think we would have accepted two future seconds
 
cmndstab said:
There is no way another team was going to come up with a better deal than what Hawthorn offered. The idea that Hawthorn even offered three for him is insanity already, but for Essendon to come back and say, no, we need FOUR of them... absolute lunacy from Essendon. Did they not just see Oliver being traded for a packet of chips two years after asking to leave and being denied?

Essendon absolutely screwed the pooch on this one.
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as i said people on this board do not understand the hatred between those two teams. ps the offer wasnt that good imo

this crap of four firsts. bullshit. a first is pick 1-18 absolute no sliding

well there was only one pick thst met that brief. 10 which will slide to 13.
 
Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
Why wouldn't Port try to win Ah Chee over between now and the preseason draft?
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What is the connection to South Australia? I figured it was a deal too good to refuse with the Crows that had him wanting to come here.

But you are right. The danger is another club having the chance to talk him in to joining them, provided they can meet the contract conditions the Crows and Ah Chee will agree to and they have a PSD pick before the Crows. If he's moving to SA anyway and the stars align for Port, they might as well have a crack. Likewise West Coast and Freo given his WA upbringing. And maybe he changes his mind and stays at the Lions.

All seems unlikely and that he will end up at the Crows via the PSD. Will be a very handy player and free up Rachele, Rankine and maybe even Curtin a bit more to move into positions they can influence a game, knowing Ah Chee will perform his role reliably whether that be forward or mid.
 
moogerfooger said:
Kelly's hip is why they need him. I don't think they knew until the end of the season that he'd need surgery again and how bad the prognosis was. Oliver is an immediate replacement as long as they can keep him on the straight and narrow.
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Strange replacement for a guy like Kelly, almost the complete opposite style of footballer
 
Cromulant said:
Strange replacement for a guy like Kelly, almost the complete opposite style of footballer
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Maybe they want to push Kelly more outside - wing, half back - rather than being a coal face mid?

Would make some sense if he's starting to battle injuries
 

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Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
Why wouldn't Port try to win Ah Chee over between now and the preseason draft?
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I hear you but think about it, he has a deal waiting with Adelaide, he was a crows supporter as a kid, he saw Adelaide were being reasonable with the offer to brisbane for him. He knows the crows team is on the up. So what would the sell from port be other than a lot more money?
 
crow2crow said:
hmmm thats not what dom ambrosio said.
ambrosio wanted F2 plus us to slide from 16 to 23. thats a shit deal for uncontracted B grader.

i think we would have accepted two future seconds
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Apparently a few alternative trade scenarios were floated by BRIS ....the deal you're referring to, AND the two x F2's
 
Crow till I die said:
I hear you but think about it, he has a deal waiting with Adelaide, he was a crows supporter as a kid, he saw Adelaide were being reasonable with the offer to brisbane for him. He knows the crows team is on the up. So what would the sell from port be other than a lot more money?
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All this is irrelevant to the situation ....its purely an economics scenario from here .....will there be anymore than 3 Clubs participating in the PSD ...and can those other two Clubs afford a $1M Contract

The way Clubs are currently splashing future cash at the moment .....the answer is none

TPP's are structured around list management, trade periods, and the National Draft ......not the usual ghostland of the PSD .....which is why many supporters query the necessity to have one at all
 
DangerSloane said:
And Marshall is worse as a forward.
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Wrong way around imo.

Two of my favourite players and think Marshall will have a big year in front of the sticks, very accomplished as a forward.
TDK must be given more time around the ball given their ages and StKilda’s list development.
 
MRB37 said:
It's such a weird situation where now teams expect you to pay overs because paying fair value is of no use to them.
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Yep! Second rounders no use to us, so pay up with a first.

It's like we are playing poker with monopoly money and they are expecting gold bullion.

Something has to change. The system is broken, so I don't blame Brisbane. They don't need to worry too much about the rest of the country's talent as they are investing in their own local talent and getting them for nothing, so don't need to worry about hoping to snare a diamond in the rough with pick 43.
 

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Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
Why wouldn't Port try to win Ah Chee over between now and the preseason draft?
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Why didn't they beforehand? They knew he was open to leaving, they knew Adelaide was a place he would move to, they knew Brisbane wasn't going to fight to keep him, and yet they don't pick up the phone until after trade period.

Why would Ah Chee and Williams take phonecalls from a team that showed no interest in him until now?
 
Betts are off said:
Why didn't they beforehand? They knew he was open to leaving, they knew Adelaide was a place he would move to, they knew Brisbane wasn't going to fight to keep him, and yet they don't pick up the phone until after trade period.

Why would Ah Chee and Williams take phonecalls from a team that showed no interest in him until now?
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From the press statement by their list manager, Ah Chee was not on their radar. I don't think they ever had him in mind at all, it's just the journalist asking the question and them having to give a response.
 
adelaidecrows said:
Dude not a single expert predicts Ah Chee will be stolen. He will be doing pre season with the Crows, he wont have any communication with other clubs. Most clubs wont have any room for the PSD anyway and with the Crows heavily front loading his contract combined will merely kill the minimal risk. All clubs know not to poach via the draft anyway. Its only ever happened with Stevens but Carlton offered him a deal weeks before and he took it and went to train for them. I think we are just worried for nothing. It would have to defy history for it to occur.
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Cos we have a history of being on the side that benefits from AFL shennanigans
 

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