Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2025

[Scorpus]

Rumour Summary October 1st

• Adelaide expects a decision from Christian Petracca
  3

  Christian Petracca

  Age

  30

  Ht

  187cm

  Wt

  94kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  19.4

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  9.8

  5star

  M

  3.5

  4star

  T

  3.0

  5star

  CL

  2.5

  4star

  D

  24.4

  5star

  K

  10.4

  4star

  HB

  14.0

  5star

  M

  3.5

  3star

  T

  3.6

  4star

  CL

  3.4

  4star

  D

  19.0

  5star

  K

  7.8

  3star

  HB

  11.2

  5star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  CL

  2.0

  4star

  by Saturday, according to a poster (link)
• Christian Petracca's decision between Adelaide and Gold Coast is a 50/50, according to Tom Morris (link)
• Taylor Walker will sign a one-year contract extension, according to Josh Money (link)
• Adelaide have been working on the Petracca trade for months, compared to Gold Coast who have joined the race more recently, according to a poster (link)
• Christian Petracca is meeting with Gold Coast in person (link)

Rumour Summary October 2nd

• Melbourne are open to trading Clayton Oliver
  10

  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  28

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  18.4

  5star

  M

  3.2

  3star

  T

  6.3

  5star

  CL

  6.3

  5star

  D

  25.1

  5star

  K

  11.1

  4star

  HB

  14.0

  5star

  M

  3.6

  4star

  T

  5.6

  5star

  CL

  5.9

  5star

  D

  19.2

  5star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  14.6

  5star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  4.4

  5star

  CL

  3.8

  5star

  , according to Sam Edmund (link)
• Clayton Oliver expects to be told to explore his trade options, according to Tom Morris (link)

 

[Fud#3]

If the price for Trac is picks 20 and 17, Im in.

That's about where our picks will fall this year and next.

This year it was Murphy Reid and Cooper Hynes.

The year before, James Leake and Taylor Goad

 

[Velvet George]

#rentfree

So you think you’re that special that I can’t ask your opinion? On a football forum? That’s very odd.

 

[AFC979810]

This is insane for someone who will be 30 next season.

It's like you have no long term memory & forgotten about Gibbs

Meh - you get the deal done for a flag.

I don't think he would cost 3 - but I wouldn't really care if he did. He would give us the best chance of winning a flag in the next 2 years of all the players available. And its two fold - the better we are with Trac - the less the picks would be worth.

 

[Cromulant]

For me the sameness of the vibe is "Right player two years too late"

Maybe, but he still makes us much better.

Gibbs was pretty handy in that first season, just when the club was blowing up around him.

 

[Cromulant]

Meh - you get the deal done for a flag.

I don't think he would cost 3 - but I wouldn't really care if he did. He would give us the best chance of winning a flag in the next 2 years of all the players available. And its two fold - the better we are with Trac - the less the picks would be worth.

3 first round picks ???

That would be the dumbest list management decision by any club in the history of the AFL.

2 would be bad enough.

 

[pjcrows]

3 first round picks ???

That would be the dumbest list management decision by any club in the history of the AFL.

2 would be bad enough.

The dumbest list management decision would be trotting out a bottom midfield once again, pissing away an excellent defence and attack.

 

[TryAnHit]

I understand this POV .....however early season Soligo looks a million bucks, irrespective of the oppo .....he's looked terrible in the last 6 games (inc 2 finals) ....and that included bottom sides WCE, and NORTH

He's also only 22. Long year as an inside mid

 

[Cromulant]

The dumbest list management decision would be trotting out a bottom midfield once again, pissing away an excellent defence and attack.

I get that, but 3 first rounders for a guy whos going to be 30 before the start of next season ??

No one even half responsible would be doing that.

 

[Syd Crow]

I get that, but 3 first rounders for a guy whos going to be 30 before the start of next season ??

No one even half responsible would be doing that.

That's my problem with such a high price. It ain't no Darren Jarman deal. We traded Pick 25 and Sean Wellman for Jarman, not 3 first round picks. And we got 6 years of service from him. Would we get 6 years of service from Petracca? For 3 first round picks? Or 2 -3 years like Gibbs and Carey. Does he guarantee a premiership or is that just wishful thinking?

 

[BucketsNj]

Isaac Smith was 32 and was sensational. Won a Norm Smith
Jack Gunstan has also been great this year after coming back at 32.

Petracca has obviously missed a lot of footy recently, but appears to be the ultimate professional and if his attitude is right I could easily see him play 5 more years, probably 3 at elite level.

Yes, that's true, but neither of them played in the guts.

 

[Cromulant]

That's my problem with such a high price. It ain't no Darren Jarman deal. We traded Pick 25 and Sean Wellman for Jarman, not 3 first round picks. And we got 6 years of service from him. Would we get 6 years of service from Petracca? For 3 first round picks? Or 2 -3 years like Gibbs and Carey. Does he guarantee a premiership or is that just wishful thinking?

There's no doubt he gets us closer, and i can see us winning a flag within 3 years..... BUT its a hail mary swing that could end in huge pain.

 

[Cromulant]

Yes, that's true, but neither of them played in the guts.

Nor did they have a significant internal injury.

And we would be brining Petracca in to be THE guy. Gunston has had a great year no doubt, so did Tex at the same age.

Smith was a nice addition to an already very good group.

 

[daniel_4tw]

Petracca is ‘worth’ our first round this year. It will be pick 25 after academy and FA compo and is already a poor and shallow draft.

We likely give up more because of how desperate we are, though.

 

[Syd Crow]

Nor did they have a significant internal injury.

And we would be brining Petracca in to be THE guy. Gunston has had a great year no doubt, so did Tex at the same age.

Smith was a nice addition to an already very good group.

Midfielders get banged up more than forwards or backs, even without having a horrific injury like Petracca suffered.

 

[AFC979810]

3 first round picks ???

That would be the dumbest list management decision by any club in the history of the AFL.

2 would be bad enough.

As always - you show zero nuance.

Think about when the picks would be. We currently have 14 in 2025. Thats gonna give you access to the 20th-25th best prospect in the land. Next years first if we land Petracca would be in pick 16-18 which would land us the 22nd - 27th best player in the draft.

Pick up a 3rd late 1st rounder by trading out some fringe players.

You wouldn't do those three picks for a 4 time All Australian, Norm Smith medallist who will give us 3 great years whilst we are in a premiership window and he addresses our #1 biggest list issue.

 

[daniel_4tw]

Midfielders get banged up more than forwards or backs, even without having a horrific injury like Petracca suffered.

Then there’s Dangerfield at 35 who has used his body as a battering ram for the last 15 years still playing sublime footy.

 

[Syd Crow]

Then there’s Dangerfield at 35 who has used his body as a battering ram for the last 15 years still playing sublime footy.

1. How many Dangerfields are there? 2. Did he suffer any injury similar to Petracca? Cherry-picking an example does not mean it applies to everyone.

 

[Syd Crow]

As always - you show zero nuance.

Think about when the picks would be. We currently have 14 in 2025. Thats gonna give you access to the 20th-25th best prospect in the land. Next years first if we land Petracca would be in pick 16-18 which would land us the 22nd - 27th best player in the draft.

Pick up a 3rd late 1st rounder by trading out some fringe players.

You wouldn't do those three picks for a 4 time All Australian, Norm Smith medallist who will give us 3 great years whilst we are in a premiership window and he addresses our #1 biggest list issue.

"Pick up a 3rd late 1st rounder by trading out some fringe players." What fringe players are worth a late 1st? I assume you are probably going to say Butts?

 

[Amacca 23]

1. How many Dangerfields are there? 2. Did he suffer any injury similar to Petracca? Cherry-picking an example does not mean it applies to everyone.

Idk pendles is 36 and still playing good footy ,zorko just because you are 30 means stuff all now days

 

[AFC979810]

Petracca is ‘worth’ our first round this year. It will be pick 25 after academy and FA compo and is already a poor and shallow draft.

We likely give up more because of how desperate we are, though.

People get obsessed with the wording of 'First Rounder'....

Let's be honest - The AFL talent pool is tiny. Drafting is less than a perfect science.

Picks after 15 just aren't worth that much.

 

[Cromulant]

As always - you show zero nuance.

Think about when the picks would be. We currently have 14 in 2025. Thats gonna give you access to the 20th-25th best prospect in the land. Next years first if we land Petracca would be in pick 16-18 which would land us the 22nd - 27th best player in the draft.

Pick up a 3rd late 1st rounder by trading out some fringe players.

You wouldn't do those three picks for a 4 time All Australian, Norm Smith medallist who will give us 3 great years whilst we are in a premiership window and he addresses our #1 biggest list issue.

A lot of ifs there, thats not a lot of nuance, its guess work.

What fringe players are getting us a late first rounder, given that we saw this year that said depth isn't up to the level ??

And are you convinced he'll give us 3 great years, because this year he kicked the ball as bad if not worse than any of our midfielders.

I dont deal in fantasy playstation trading, you'd do well to do the same.

 

[Cromulant]

Idk pendles is 36 and still playing good footy ,zorko just because you are 30 means stuff all now days

For every Zorko there's a Smith, for every Pendlebury there's a Hugh Greenwood.

They are the exceptions, not the rule.

 

[AFC979810]

"Pick up a 3rd late 1st rounder by trading out some fringe players." What fringe players are worth a late 1st? I assume you are probably going to say Butts?

Yup. Butts could be worth a late first.

Berry and Taylor you could trade with our 2nd for another teams 1st.

Academy, father son - teams are looking for to trade for various reasons. A million ways to skin a cat.

 

[Cromulant]

Yup. Butts could be worth a late first.

Berry and Taylor you could trade with our 2nd for another teams 1st.

Academy, father son - teams are looking for to trade for various reasons. A million ways to skin a cat.

That same 2nd rounder would likely go to Brisbane for Ah Chee.

In no world is Butts worth a first rounder, none.

 

[AFC979810]

A lot of ifs there, thats not a lot of nuance, its guess work.

Not really.

What fringe players are getting us a late first rounder, given that we saw this year that said depth isn't up to the level ??

Butts would get a late first.

Berry + our 2nd would get us a late 1st.

Plenty of teams would need points for various strategies. Its easier to trade than it has ever been.

And are you convinced he'll give us 3 great years, because this year he kicked the ball as bad if not worse than any of our midfielders.

I am more convinced that we will be a better team with Petracca than with future late first rounders.

I dont deal in fantasy playstation trading, you'd do well to do the same.

Its exactly what you are doing in discussing playstation trades with me.

Let's use this as a learning experience. That is Irony.