St Kilda complain about priority draft access in Oct 2024; now set to gain priority access to a first / second round pick via their NGA access

[mighty_lions]

It's about how you're not as good as you think you are because of all the bullshit assistance that you get given that St Kilda do not give you a massive leg up they don't get.

The only advantage we get is an academy which is offset by all the advantages melbourne based teams get oh and we are definitely as good as what I think we are

 

[WillHayward]

Naming a bunch of shit you didn't pay for.

Still leeching off the AFL to the tune of 29 million a year. North only got 25 million. St Kilda 23.

If the AFL didn't prop your club up with all the money and closed shop player avenues you'd be ****ed.

John Elliott - corrupt campaigner
Ian Collins - corrupt campaigner
Richard Pratt - corrupt campaigner
Luke Sayers - corrupt campaigner
Robert Priestley - corrupt campaigner

 

[Mat Mann]

The only advantage we get is an academy which is offset by all the advantages melbourne based teams get oh and we are definitely as good as what I think we are

Still waiting to hear the advantages St Kilda receives?

 

[Bostonian]

John Elliott - corrupt campaigner
Ian Collins - corrupt campaigner
Richard Pratt - corrupt campaigner
Luke Sayers - corrupt campaigner
Robert Priestley - corrupt campaigner

The irony coming from Edelston FC.

 

[Bostonian]

The only advantage we get is an academy which is offset by all the advantages melbourne based teams get oh and we are definitely as good as what I think we are

No see you're wrong. There's nothing being offset there.

St Kilda has zero advantages over Brisbane. Only some clueless numpty would claim they do.

 

[mighty_lions]

Still waiting to hear the advantages St Kilda receives?

we've been through this, less travel, home city grand final, less retention issues because the greater talent pool comes out of melbourne, the NGA academy

 

[mighty_lions]

No see you're wrong. There's nothing being offset there.

St Kilda has zero advantages over Brisbane. Only some clueless numpty would claim they do.

they dont travel less, they dont get a home city grand final, they dont have an NGA??? same for all the melbourne teams

 

[jumperfan]

they dont travel less, they dont get a home city grand final, they dont have an NGA??? same for all the melbourne teams

Ah so you admit it, we are worse off than you.

 

[mighty_lions]

Ah so you admit it, we are worse off than you.

If none of that was true then yes but since it all is no, imagine if our president had of got up there on our best and fairest night in 2023 and said it's not fair Collingwood have father sons and a home grand final thats why we lost the grand final, stop complaining and get better

 

[Bostonian]

we've been through this, less travel, home city grand final, less retention issues because the greater talent pool comes out of melbourne, the NGA academy.

Travel. You think it's a long trip from Brisbane to Melbourne?

Country footballers spend more time travelling to play games on the weekend than some pampered AFL players do.

Grounds are a pathetic excuse. I've never seen a GF lost because of the ground.

Retention is another piss weak excuse. If a VIC player decides to go home they have 10 clubs to vie for their services.

How many for QLD? Not that many QLD players will end up in other states due to the academy scams.

NGA academy players cost far more than academy players do.

 

[mighty_lions]

Travel. You think it's a long trip from Brisbane to Melbourne?

Country footballers spend more time travelling to play games on the weekend than some pampered AFL players do.

Grounds are a pathetic excuse. I've never seen a GF lost because of the ground.

Retention is another piss weak excuse. If a VIV player decides to go home they have 10 clubs to vie for their services.

How many for QLD?

NGA academy players cost far more than academy players do.

If it wasn't for academies there wouldn't be any Queensland players to even have, you have no idea what you are talking about look through the drafts before academies existed 0 or 1 player in the entire draft!

You are just minimising all the advantages melbourne clubs gets, you keep saying piss weak do you have incontinence or something ?

 

[jumperfan]

If none of that was true then yes but since it all is no, imagine if our president had of got up there on our best and fairest night in 2023 and said it's not fair Collingwood have father sons and a home grand final thats why we lost the grand final, stop complaining and get better

I suspect you'd defend him to the wire.

 

[mighty_lions]

I suspect you'd defend him to the wire.

There's no way he would say anything as absurd as that, Caro also said on agenda setters that Bassat was embarrassed by it and felt bad for saying what he said

 

[VinnieB]

Yeah, and we’ve never received the preferential treatment that Northern academies have received in our 150 years:

• We got squeezed out of St Kilda (Junction Oval) up until the 1960s in favour of Victorian cricket which nearly saw us eradicated as a club. Didn’t see the VFL administration use the excuse of growing the game in St Kilda back then.
• We move away from St Kilda (Junction Oval) to Moorabbin in 1965 and finally get a 1st premiership in 1966 then in the VFL’s infinite wisdom they hand out our zones along the Mornington Peninsula and Frankston to Hawthorn which sees us lose generational talents like Leigh Mathews, Dermot Brereton, Gary Ayres etc, and of all zones we receive Ballarat (logic at its best, right).
• After decades of turmoil, the VFL comes to its senses and abolishes these zones and we go back to receiving talent from the heartland (e.g., Harvey, Burke, Spider Everett, etc).
• Equalised draft system is implemented and we narrowly lose 1997, 2009, and 2010 premierships.
• Post 2010 grand final, compromised draft system is introduced to expand the game Rugby league territory, and here we are.

Surely, the AFL have other mechanisms to growing the game in rugby league territories, besides a compromised draft rort, which evidently we haven’t received in 150 years and have also lost generational talent to these sides (e.g., Lockett).

So, what you’re saying is that you did nothing for about 90 years. Then won a premiership. Then blamed the VFL for changing zones (hang on, didn’t you get Tony Lockett? The greatest goal kicker in history. Why did you lose him?)

Then you played in a couple of grand finals and lost, and then the AFL brought in academies (impacting all clubs, not just St Kilda) and that is the reason you continue to struggle.

So, it’s not your fault that 150 years has yielded 1 premiership.

Ok.

 

[jumperfan]

There's no way he would say anything as absurd as that,

Source?

Caro also said on agenda setters that Bassat was embarrassed by it and felt bad for saying what he said

Caro isn't a reliable source as evidenced by the NWM nonsense.

 

[mighty_lions]

Source?

Caro isn't a reliable source as evidenced by the NWM nonsense.

lol if you dont believe Caro then I dont know what to tell you, the wanganeen milera stuff was 100 percent correct

 

[Bostonian]

If it wasn't for academies there wouldn't be any Queensland players to even have, you have no idea what you are talking about look through the drafts before academies existed 0 or 1 player in the entire draft!

You are just minimising all the advantages melbourne clubs gets, you keep saying piss weak do you have incontinence or something ?

Nonsense.

Dunstan, Reiwoldt, Andrews, Zorko, Dixon, Armitage, Lawrence, Charman, Thomas.

All QLD players that didn't need the BL to make it to the AFL.

 

[mighty_lions]

Nonsense.

Dunstan, Reiwoldt, Andrews, Zorko, Dixon, Armitage, Lawrence, Charman, Thomas.

All QLD players that didn't need the BL to make it to the AFL.

you've listed 9 players over a span of 40 years, you are a genius

you also listed Andrews who was from the academy you idiot

 

[jumperfan]

lol if you dont believe Caro then I dont know what to tell you, the wanganeen milera stuff was 100 percent correct

Source other than Caro? She's the only one to mention it and both NWM and his agent have denied it.

 

[mighty_lions]

Source other than Caro?

You think she just made it up???

 

[jumperfan]

You think she just made it up???

She's the only one to mention it and both NWM and his agent have denied it. Seems pretty fake to me.

 

[Bostonian]

you've listed 9 players over a span of 40 years, you are a genius

you also listed Andrews who was from the academy you idiot

Yeah Andrews who arrived at the academy at 17 years old, you idiot.

 

[mighty_lions]

She's the only one to mention it and both NWM and his agent have denied it. Seems pretty fake to me.

so because she's the only 1 it means she just made it up, and of course they denied it, you think they are going to come out and say yeah its true


You can believe what you want, people hate Caro being right, the whole James Hird thing was 100 correct if anyone cared to actually listen to what she said properly, people lie in footy all the time, someone of Caro's stature doesnt just make shit up, she isn't reading big footy going yeah ill just say that tonight

Classic example of this is Dayne beams leaving Brisbane on his insta story he wrote poo emojis over her story about him leaving, it was 100 percent right

 

[mighty_lions]

Yeah Andrews who arrived at the academy at 17 years old, you idiot.

yeah and went 61 in the draft! you've named 9 players from Queensland over 40 years, one of which got past on 4 consecutive drafts and 3 you named were absolute shit players

you are a genius

 

[Bostonian]

yeah and went 61 in the draft! you've named 9 players from Queensland over 40 years, one of which got past on 4 consecutive drafts and 3 you named were absolute shit players

you are a genius

Well I know more about football than you do.

I named the easy ones that even someone like you should know. There were more than that over the years. Newb.

Who were the shit ones?