St Kilda complain about priority draft access in Oct 2024; now set to gain priority access to a first / second round pick via their NGA access

[mighty_lions]

Garlick mentioned a while back that Freo dont even have kids young enough to join the team yet... when at the same time you guys got Ashcroft x 2 and Fletcher because their kids are actually at the normal age....

yes they do freo came into the completion in 1995.....30 years ago, previously they had access to 4 clubs from the wafl they could also use as father son

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

yes they do freo came into the completion in 1995.....30 years ago, previously they had access to 4 clubs from the wafl they could also use as father son

Which means the players would be 48 as opposed to the 53 years of age Marcus Ashcroft and 55 Adrian Fletcher is... In other words Brisbanes got a bigger list because the list is older then 30 years.

Maths is easy

 

[Foxman98]

yes they do freo came into the completion in 1995.....30 years ago, previously they had access to 4 clubs from the wafl they could also use as father son

They literally have Jarren Carr on the list now who was a father son selection

 

[mighty_lions]

Which means the players would be 48 as opposed to the 53 years of age Marcus Ashcroft and 55 Adrian Fletcher is... In other words Brisbanes got a bigger list because the list is older then 30 years.

Maths is easy

you do realise not everyone has kids at the same age.......

 

[Foxman98]

you do realise not everyone has kids at the same age.......

In the past 5 years we have had Zaine Cordy/Tom Liberatore/Sam Darcy/Rhylee West on our list added in their fathers age and their age fairly broad range for age of Father when son is born

Zaine's dad is 64 (28) Tom's is 59 (33) Rhylee's is 50 (25) and Sam's is 50 (22)

Looks to me as if it can take as little as 25 years in Rhylee's case (has a 17 year old brother) or 36 years in Zaines case who also has an older brother who was crap

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

you do realise not everyone has kids at the same age.......

You are the one claiming they do? Because Freo have players who are now 45 years old they must all have the same amount of kids as those older then them by now? People have kids later in life, well into late 30s... This is why Pies and Brisbane have more access. Fletcher had Jaspa at 34. If Freos player did that his son is 11 which is a bit too soon for football

 

[mighty_lions]

You are the one claiming they do? Because Freo have players who are now 45 years old they must all have the same amount of kids as those older then them by now? People have kids later in life, well into late 30s... This is why Pies and Brisbane have more access. Fletcher had Jaspa at 34. If Freos player did that his son is 11 which is a bit too soon for football

you do realise Adrian fletcher played for Fremantle........if he had of played 21 games more for freo he would of been eligible to go to freo

freo have players older than both fletcher and Ashcroft that just haven't produced any father sons and have plenty younger that just haven't produced any either

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

you do realise Adrian fletcher played for Fremantle........if he had of played 21 games more for freo he would of been eligible to go to freo

freo have players older than both fletcher and Ashcroft that just haven't produced any father sons and have plenty younger that just haven't produced any either

You do get that Fletcher didnt join the club at 18 which is the reason Freo dont have the same accesses Brisbane have

Take the L and move on

 

[mighty_lions]

You do get that Fletcher didnt join the club at 18 which is the reason Freo dont have the same accesses Brisbane have

Take the L and move on

your point was they haven't been around long enough they have, and what you just said makes no sense, its irrelevant when he joined freo

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

your point was they haven't been around long enough they have, and what you just said makes no sense, its irrelevant when he joined freo

You literally just said Adrian Fletcher wasnt able to get to 100 games with Freo which was because he was too old to do it...

 

[Foxman98]

You literally just said Adrian Fletcher wasnt able to get to 100 games with Freo which was because he was too old to do it...

Pavlich was drafted in 1999 their 5th draft and he is 43 having a child at 25-28 is fairly normal means off draftees alone they have access to F/S the same as anyone else

 

[mighty_lions]

You literally just said Adrian Fletcher wasnt able to get to 100 games with Freo which was because he was too old to do it...

what? they could of given him another year or even got him to the club earlier! how's dale kicketts kids? not old enough yet???

 

[mighty_lions]

You literally just said Adrian Fletcher wasnt able to get to 100 games with Freo which was because he was too old to do it...

just picked a random player to look at

Des Headland has three children with his wife Chantelle: Madisan (24 years old), Mason (22 years old), and Carson (18 years old)

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

what? they could of given him another year or even got him to the club earlier! how's dale kicketts kids? not old enough yet???

He didnt get a new contract because he was slowing down in his old age... Its not hard to figure out

 

[mighty_lions]

He didnt get a new contract because he was slowing down in his old age... Its not hard to figure out

ok then they could of had him for 1995 season, 1996 season 1997 season.....

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Conversation getting a bit repeptive and off topic when we are talking about Des Headlands children. In the end Simon Garlick

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has come out against both academy and father/son picks. Its not a St Kilda only concern at all

 

[mighty_lions]

Conversation getting a bit repeptive and off topic when we are talking about Des Headlands children. In the end Simon Garlick has come out against both academy and father/son picks. Its not a St Kilda only concern at all

yeah its a concern for those that dont have any, not that its not justified

 

[mighty_lions]

last night Chris Scott

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said he wouldn't have father son! nearly fell off the couch, point in case he didnt say a word when he had Hawkins, GAJ, Scarlett, Bews and Simpson now they dont have any get rid of it! actually laughable

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

yeah its a concern for those that dont have any, not that its not justified

I do think it’s a bit too late though. The horse has bolted in reality. Changing the rules now to then run into Tasmania’s lost build feels a bit pointless . The changes to make are to boost St Kilda draft hand and not remove Brisbanes . I don’t think it’s fair to tell Annable he can’t join Brisbane all of a sudden. The promise is made and completed

I think St Kilda should get draft pick assistance this off season to make up for it as opposed to punish Annable. Ones the time to throw a bunch of picks you must trade access to St Kilda and WCE. Both clubs can use them and get a benefit

 

[paulige]

Aren’t you the guy who based a whole argument against academies on some AI data that was completely wrong?

Probably going to take your AI-generated thoughts on father-son with a grain of salt.

 

[Philhawk]

Oh no! Curnow wants to go to the GC! This must be part of the retention issues we’ve all heard about.

 

[mighty_lions]

Oh no! Curnow wants to go to the GC! This must be part of the retention issues we’ve all heard about.

they aren't allowed to trade for any players? not sure the relevance

 

[Tasmanian saint]

I was talking in regards to the father son, this is half the issue just lumping in academies with father son in a discussion is just ridiculous and makes 0 sense, and yes of course we benefit from academies just as we are disadvantaged by having a minimal percentage of of the draft pool coming out of queensland which before the academies was basically 0

Which is also a double edge sword for having minimal talent come out of a state, retention issues and then also no one coming back to queensland because there's barely any getting drafted in the first place

everyone has the same rules for father son so why complain about it

One of the arguments for academy’s with the expansion clubs was that they didn’t get to benefit from father son picks like the southern clubs do that’s definitely not the case for Brisbane, who get the best of both. Would you be happy for Brisbane to keep full academy rights but loose future father sons

 

[mighty_lions]

One of the arguments for academy’s with the expansion clubs was that they didn’t get to benefit from father son picks like the southern clubs do that’s definitely not the case for Brisbane, who get the best of both. Would you be happy for Brisbane to keep full academy rights but loose future father sons

no one has ever said that, literally just making stuff up

 

[Elixuh]

Oh no! Curnow wants to go to the GC! This must be part of the retention issues we’ve all heard about.

You don't think that GCS have historically had significant retention issues?