Opinion #standdowneddie?

[TheGreatGrundy]

He knew Gubby was under investigation? How do you know this exactly, considering the story didn't come out until well after we had hired him and given him his current role?


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Eddie knew because Gubby told him of the drug investigation before he was hired.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Nice sunset

 

[stevo86]

Couldn't care less. He didn't do it at our club it was just recreational drugs wasn't it? He was helping a young kid out after he messed up BOO HOO. Nothing will happen so quit ya winging. Compare this to cover ups on buddy and cousins during his playing days and we are saints

 

[Chameleon75]

Couldn't care less. He didn't do it at our club it was just recreational drugs wasn't it? He was helping a young kid out after he messed up BOO HOO. Nothing will happen so quit ya winging. Compare this to cover ups on buddy and cousins during his playing days and we are saints

It's called plausible deniability. There's no need to go to this trouble to avoid a strike.

 

[barrackers]

I do feel a bit for wicksy. He's been targeted since the first post. Truth is he is ultimately correct in what he is saying. The club statement shows that they were prepared to roll the dice and to deal with the consequences. The same people who are prepared to look past this blunder (and it is a blunder) wouldn't excuse it if it was...lets say Essendon making such a decision. I think this is my first post for several years. Awaiting the backlash. Hahaha.

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Having overseen our netball team for a few months previously we changed Allan's role as this story started to break in the media. At that time Balme hadn't yet departed the club. Perhaps we rolled the dice in changing Allan's role as the club considered him to be the best one to turn the club around and implement change and by extension realised Balme wasn't the right person to make those changes. Allan's seemingly done a lot in a short amount of time. One would hope that the club wouldn't be so silly to demote Balme with the knowledge that Allan could possibly be banned without a fall back option. It would be nice to have stability in the Football Manager role though. Since Walsh departed part way through 2013 we've had Eade, Balme and now Allan.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Board meeting yesterday and Gubby told to stand aside until after the investigation - just a rumour I heard.

If true it's ridiculous. If we are going to lose him to suspension, why add to the time. And surely standing down is tantamount to an admission of guilt.

 

[barrackers]

If true it's ridiculous. If we are going to lose him to suspension, why add to the time. And surely standing down is tantamount to an admission of guilt.

Effectively such a move would act as a self imposed provisional suspension and if any sanction is imposed by ASADA this time would count thereby allowing Allan to return quicker.

 

[left at home]

If true it's ridiculous. If we are going to lose him to suspension, why add to the time. And surely standing down is tantamount to an admission of guilt.

l would only stand him down when the finding with penalties attached are released now.
unless the afl have already informed the club what the penalties for gubby are, and when they are going to enforce them

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Having overseen our netball team for a few months previously we changed Allan's role as this story started to break in the media. At that time Balme hadn't yet departed the club. Perhaps we rolled the dice in changing Allan's role as the club considered him to be the best one to turn the club around and implement change and by extension realised Balme wasn't the right person to make those changes. Allan's seemingly done a lot in a short amount of time. One would hope that the club wouldn't be so silly to demote Balme with the knowledge that Allan could possibly be banned without a fall back option. It would be nice to have stability in the Football Manager role though. Since Walsh departed part way through 2013 we've had Eade, Balme and now Allan.

Are you suggesting that making Allan football operation's manager was an afterthought? From the moment Allan stepped into his women's role, he was always going to be replacing Balme.? The transition was a **** up, badly handled by the club and by Eddie. It was the kind of clumsiness that I have to come to expect of much that Collingwood does. The club is not in great shape, from the players through to the welfare department. I don't have a problem ultimately with Allan replacing Balme, but that does not mean that I respect the manner and style in which the club is currently functioning.

 

[Maggie5]

I would have thought replacing Balme with Allen, restructuring our football department, getting rid of 2 assistant coaches, apparently clearing out our welfare department, getting rid of leading teams, getting rid of Hendy and letting go experienced players were changes and also an acknowledgement that change was needed both on and off the field.

Maybe this will instead sort the joint out?

And maybe will bring new problems?
Not a fan of Allen, so hope he gets banned especially if he instructed a staff member to delete an email.
In so far as Eddie is concerned, haven't liked the idea of directors just being appointed.
When was the last election for directors and Eddie' position?

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

And maybe will bring new problems?
Not a fan of Allen, so hope he gets banned especially if he instructed a staff member to delete an email.
In so far as Eddie is concerned, haven't liked the idea of directors just being appointed.
When was the last election for directors and Eddie' position?

We don't even know if the 2 assistants deserved to be removed. How has our football department been restructured? And we didn't so much let go older players as watch them go. Change is afoot but is not so frenetically or methodically as the poster suggests.

 

[Maggie5]

We don't even know if the 2 assistants deserved to be removed. How has our football department been restructured? And we didn't so much let go older players as watch them go. Change is afoot but is not so frenetically or methodically as the poster suggests.

Not sure that I addressed any of those points, just said what has been carried out could bring new problems.

 

[wicksy]

I would have thought replacing Balme with Allen, restructuring our football department, getting rid of 2 assistant coaches, apparently clearing out our welfare department, getting rid of leading teams, getting rid of Hendy and letting go experienced players were changes and also an acknowledgement that change was needed both on and off the field.

Maybe this will instead sort the joint out?

Half of what you mentioned was purely cost cutting... Name one improvement we've made to the football department.

 

[Kappa]

Having overseen our netball team for a few months previously we changed Allan's role as this story started to break in the media. At that time Balme hadn't yet departed the club. Perhaps we rolled the dice in changing Allan's role as the club considered him to be the best one to turn the club around and implement change and by extension realised Balme wasn't the right person to make those changes. Allan's seemingly done a lot in a short amount of time. One would hope that the club wouldn't be so silly to demote Balme with the knowledge that Allan could possibly be banned without a fall back option. It would be nice to have stability in the Football Manager role though. Since Walsh departed part way through 2013 we've had Eade, Balme and now Allan.

Lol yeah, we poached one of the best in the Footy world on huge cash to head up our Netball team, it was just a coincidence we quickly swapped him to head of our football department

The naivety amongst Collingwood faithful has to be at an all time high after this offseason

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Not sure that I addressed any of those points, just said what has been carried out could bring new problems.

They were from the post you quoted - you did address them in saying 'and maybe they'll bring new problems' and 'I am not a fan of Allen'.

 

[Maggie5]

They were from the post you quoted - you did address them in saying 'and maybe they'll bring new problems' and 'I am not a fan of Allen'.

Debateable.

 

[MyManLynch]

Half of what you mentioned was purely cost cutting... Name one improvement we've made to the football department.

The Football Department refrigerator is once again a 'safe place' to store lunch.
The disappearing bread rolls has ceased.

 

[MyManLynch]

As mentioned numerous times in this thread, the club released a presser confirming they knew.

But what about the missing 18 & 1/2 minutes of the press release?
What did they know & when did they know it?

 

[PicaBoo]

The Football Department refrigerator is once again a 'safe place' to store lunch.
The disappearing bread rolls has ceased.

I seriously lol'ed at this.

 

[barrackers]

Are you suggesting that making Allan football operation's manager was an afterthought? From the moment Allan stepped into his women's role, he was always going to be replacing Balme.? The transition was a **** up, badly handled by the club and by Eddie. It was the kind of clumsiness that I have to come to expect of much that Collingwood does. The club is not in great shape, from the players through to the welfare department. I don't have a problem ultimately with Allan replacing Balme, but that does not mean that I respect the manner and style in which the club is currently functioning.

Lol yeah, we poached one of the best in the Footy world on huge cash to head up our Netball team, it was just a coincidence we quickly swapped him to head of our football department

The naivety amongst Collingwood faithful has to be at an all time high after this offseason

Never once mentioned Allan changing roles was an after thought or a coincidence, merely that it occurred. In saying that if Allan's ASADA issues were a concern we could quite easily not gone ahead with that change of role and kept Balme as football manager.

 

[barrackers]

Half of what you mentioned was purely cost cutting... Name one improvement we've made to the football department.

The new season hasn't even started yet, so given I base success on winning games of footy it's too early to tell if the changes are an improvement.

 

[barrackers]

We don't even know if the 2 assistants deserved to be removed. How has our football department been restructured? And we didn't so much let go older players as watch them go. Change is afoot but is not so frenetically or methodically as the poster suggests.

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2016-09-01/changes-to-football-department-confirmed

Cloke (contracted) and Brown (RFA) undoubtedly we could have kept had we wished. Frost apparently was offered a short contract, if we wanted to keep him we could have offered him longer.

 

[Vicky Park]

I tend to agree with wicksy on this. If it's not a debacle yet, it has the potential to be one. And failing that, it's a stuff up. Another one.

While Bucks cops a lot for the team's failings, and some of it is deserved, the club does not have the appearance of being well run ATM.

During Bucks time, a lot of senior people have come and gone. OK, this happens at every club and I don't have the data to compare. But there is a whiff of desperation about us.

I am not convinced Gubby is the saviour, although I will withhold judgement until this plays out. 'This' also includes the slash and burn approach to our recent trade period.

And Eddie's time may be up. I hope he handles this issue in a balanced and dignified manner, and doesn't shoot off his mouth or go around attacking media critics. For once Eddie, try really hard to rise above the gutter.

 

[THATSGOLD]

This latest debacle is massive.....

He knew Gubby was under investigation and hired anyway and in the process, shafted Balme.
It now looks likely that Gubby will get banned which is on Ed.

Is it time we look at alternatives?


EDIT: For context.

Ah NO.

 

[Morganashlee]

Ah NO.

The voice of reason