stanley misses again

[dales]

this kid must be so frustrated playing his guts out week in week out and doesnt get rewarded.players that dont perform are rewarded before him.we have to admire him as i have never heard someone say that hes got the sooks about not getting selected.

 

[DoubleO7]

Named as an emergency so getting a late call up might not be out of the question.

 

[ant22]

corrie was the only emrg on the plane so i dount it 007

It seems the writing is really on the wall for cook and stanley. Despite great form and forced changes to the team they are not getting a look in.

I know people are saying the toovey was in for maxwell but I reckon Goldsack is maxys replacement. Far more similar in style to maxwell then toovey is IMO. Toovey has had far more chances and stanley for some reason and personally on this occassion I would have preferred stanley get an opportunity to see if he is up to it. In his game against freo last year he made some terrible blues but in reality it was terrible conditions and the skill level in that game was as bad as I saw all year. I would like to see him play atleast 3 games in a row and if he is not up to scratch so be it, but I would hate to have him delisted with out really knowing why.

 

[Dave06]

It's incredibly frustrating like has been said, that the guy is in our best almost every week in the VFL and Toovey who rarely performs at AFL level continues to get selected.

He wasn't delisted last year so they obviously plan on playing him at some point, but you would have thought this week would have been the perfect opportunity with guys like Johnno and Heater out.

Stanners didn't have the best game last week but surely he has earnt a crack.

On a more positive note great to see young Barham get his first game and stoked to see Pebbles back in the side.

 

[Optimax]

Named as an emergency so getting a late call up might not be out of the question.

Might want to quickly get on a plane to brisvegas

 

[didaka]

Writing's on the wall. There's something not right.

Stanley is not in favor and never has been while he is probably the hardest working player in the 2's.

Ask for a trade at years end young fella.

 

[Invigoration]

Writing's on the wall. There's something not right.

Stanley is not in favor and never has been while he is probably the hardest working player in the 2's.

Ask for a trade at years end young fella.

Would be very lucky to get picked up in a Davies type trade

 

[UnPick]

It keeps looking like all aboard "The DS Express" number 28 to elsewhere, Stanners move on and upward many great players have made their name at their 2nd clubs.

Collingwoods loss will be another clubs gain.

And to the usual knockers who love to raise his game errors, have a real look at the kid, 1 or 2 errors is all you keep highlighting of "The Express". I take it that no other player makes mistakes and their were no turn overs and run downs in the last 2 years at Collingwood other than Stanners, get real.

 

[King Woodie]

Would be very lucky to get picked up in a Davies type trade

I am not so sure. He may be a Brent Prismall type of player, that is acknowledged as a very good young player not getting opportunities... He is tearing it up in the twos.

I think we need to stop expecting him to play in place of everyone in the side. In reality, I wouldn't think he would come in unless one of O'Bree, Swan, Pendles, or Lockyer are injured or dropped. This hasn't happened, so Stanley hasn't been included. I would start getting really worried about him if one of these players comes out and he doesn't go in.

 

[Dogs_Playing_Poker]

Other club's vfl side's rate him. I cant believe this kid cant get a game. How the f*ck does Toovey continually get games!? He is such a dud, dunno whats going on at Lexus centre, he hardly got a mention in the vfl last weekend whereas Stanley layed something like 9 tackles..... No Brainer! so fu%king pi$$ed off!!

 

[The Dawes]

The simple reason he isn't getting a game seems to be that our coach doesn't have any faith in him.

 

[duds0101]

The simple reason he isn't getting a game seems to be that our coach doesn't have any faith in him.

Yeah, once again Malthouse and his favourites - will give Toovey a game any time - but come Stanners he won't have anything to do with it. It is terrible.

 

[Dave06]

I am not so sure. He may be a Brent Prismall type of player, that is acknowledged as a very good young player not getting opportunities... He is tearing it up in the twos.

I think we need to stop expecting him to play in place of everyone in the side. In reality, I wouldn't think he would come in unless one of O'Bree, Swan, Pendles, or Lockyer are injured or dropped. This hasn't happened, so Stanley hasn't been included. I would start getting really worried about him if one of these players comes out and he doesn't go in.

I would have thought with the predominantly midfield role Johnno had been playing this year Stanners would have been the perfect replacement, especially when in-and-under skillful players is what we seem to be desperately missing.

 

[ozpie]

the reason he doesnt get a game is cos everytime he plays seniors he chokes and does nothing.....he has had chances in the past and blew them, there is a huge differance between the VFL and AFL and unfortuantely some players are great at one level but struggle at the other....he is one

 

[Chase the Ace]

Writing's on the wall. There's something not right.

Stanley is not in favor and never has been while he is probably the hardest working player in the 2's.

Ask for a trade at years end young fella.

We might be lucky and get a 4th round pick for him

 

[Quicky]

He gets 25 touches getting triple tagged by three Geelong AFL fringe players freeing up the midfield for players like Sidebottom, Blair and Cook and still doesn't even get taken up to Brisbane as an emergency???

Whats he got to do to get a game???

 

[well left]

I think we need to stop expecting him to play in place of everyone in the side. In reality, I wouldn't think he would come in unless one of O'Bree, Swan, Pendles, or Lockyer are injured or dropped. This hasn't happened, so Stanley hasn't been included. I would start getting really worried about him if one of these players comes out and he doesn't go in.

I agree. Johnson and Shaw have been providing run off half-back or in the midfield and Toovey and Barham have been selected for those roles as they are runners in comparison to Stanley. If one of the other 4, particularly O'Bree or Pendlebury, were to miss I would expect Stanley to be more seriously considered.

We might be lucky and get a 4th round pick for him

You're probably right. In reality clubs interested would offer a 5th or 6th knowing they could probably get him cheap if he is delisted. I guess it depends on his contract situation.

 

[Trojan Pies]

Let's do a quick comparison from last weekends VFL:

Alan Toovey (5k, 4h, 1m, 5t): "Got stuck down in the backline for most of the day. We wanted to play him in the midfield but never got the chance."

Wow – awesome game and definitely worthy of a recall. Now let's look at a guy that we delisted and re-rookied:

Toby Thoolen (4k, 6h): Played fullback and centre-half back on James Podsiadly (Geelong captain) and read the ball really well.

Hmm. Interesting. He had more touches than Toovey so surely he would be in our best 22. Now let's look at Mr. Doghouse:

Danny Stanley (11k, 7h, 8m, 7t): He gave 100% and was outstanding. His tackling efforts lifted the boys in the second half.

And for arguments sake let have a look at the rest of the players that had more touches than Toovey on the weekend, excluding the players that got promoted:

3. John McCarthy (8k, 9h, 5m, 1t)

14. Anthony Corrie (12k, 6h, 8m, 1g, 1t)

19. Cameron Wood (11k, 4h, 6m, 1g, 2t)

20. Ben Reid (6k, 5h, 3m)

21. Sharrod Wellingham (14k, 6h, 5m, 4t)

22. Steele Sidebottom (13k, 14h, 5m, 7t)

29. Ryan Cook (18k, 15h, 6m, 2t)

30. Brent Macaffer (15k, 8h, 7m, 1g, 9t)

31. Chris Dawes (6k, 4h, 5m, 3g, 5t)

37. Luke Rounds (8k, 4h, 7m, 1g, 7t)

38. Scott Reed (8k, 5h, 5m, 2t)

40. Chris Bryan (12k, 1h, 8m, 3g, 2t)

47. Jarryd Blair (14k, 8h, 4m, 8t)

Somebody explain, with logic and reason, how Toovey deserves a game ahead of ANY of these players. Excusing position and role, on talent and ability all of these players are better than anything Toovey has to offer.

Malthouse's time is done. The fact that he came out last year and said that he selects players that continually put their hand up when they deserve it means I can not trust (nor interpret) whatever he says in the media.

For all those people that think Toovey provides drive and run - YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET THE BALL TO DO THAT!!!

 

[King Woodie]

Let's do a quick comparison from last weekends VFL:

Alan Toovey (5k, 4h, 1m, 5t): "Got stuck down in the backline for most of the day. We wanted to play him in the midfield but never got the chance."

Wow – awesome game and definitely worthy of a recall. Now let's look at a guy that we delisted and re-rookied:

Toby Thoolen (4k, 6h): Played fullback and centre-half back on James Podsiadly (Geelong captain) and read the ball really well.

Hmm. Interesting. He had more touches than Toovey so surely he would be in our best 22. Now let's look at Mr. Doghouse:

Danny Stanley (11k, 7h, 8m, 7t): He gave 100% and was outstanding. His tackling efforts lifted the boys in the second half.

And for arguments sake let have a look at the rest of the players that had more touches than Toovey on the weekend, excluding the players that got promoted:

3. John McCarthy (8k, 9h, 5m, 1t)

14. Anthony Corrie (12k, 6h, 8m, 1g, 1t)

19. Cameron Wood (11k, 4h, 6m, 1g, 2t)

20. Ben Reid (6k, 5h, 3m)

21. Sharrod Wellingham (14k, 6h, 5m, 4t)

22. Steele Sidebottom (13k, 14h, 5m, 7t)

29. Ryan Cook (18k, 15h, 6m, 2t)

30. Brent Macaffer (15k, 8h, 7m, 1g, 9t)

31. Chris Dawes (6k, 4h, 5m, 3g, 5t)

37. Luke Rounds (8k, 4h, 7m, 1g, 7t)

38. Scott Reed (8k, 5h, 5m, 2t)

40. Chris Bryan (12k, 1h, 8m, 3g, 2t)

47. Jarryd Blair (14k, 8h, 4m, 8t)

Somebody explain, with logic and reason, how Toovey deserves a game ahead of ANY of these players. Excusing position and role, on talent and ability all of these players are better than anything Toovey has to offer.

Malthouse's time is done. The fact that he came out last year and said that he selects players that continually put their hand up when they deserve it means I can not trust (nor interpret) whatever he says in the media.

For all those people that think Toovey provides drive and run - YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET THE BALL TO DO THAT!!!

The answer is position and role... Stanley can't play on the small, quick forwards, and can't do a running tagging job in the middle. It is not about who is the better footballer, extractor, listener, or kareoke singer, it is about who is better for the role that Malthouse wants to play. Toovey is better for the running defensive midfielder / small medium defender than Stanley, and that is why he is in.

As has been mentioned, if any of the slower in-and-unders got injured or fell out of form, I would expect Stanley to be the first to get in. Swan, Pendles, O'Bree, Lockyer.

 

[didaka]

I just wish they'd give him 3-4 games to find his feet at the level. Doesn't seem like it's going to happen and it shits me.

If he doesn't perform then ok, point taken MM, but where's the harm in giving the kid a chance. He's definitely put in over his time.

 

[Chase the Ace]

I just wish they'd give him 3-4 games to find his feet at the level. Doesn't seem like it's going to happen and it shits me.

If he doesn't perform then ok, point taken MM, but where's the harm in giving the kid a chance. He's definitely put in over his time.

See, I must have missed that

 

[Trojan Pies]

The answer is position and role... Stanley can't play on the small, quick forwards, and can't do a running tagging job in the middle. It is not about who is the better footballer, extractor, listener, or kareoke singer, it is about who is better for the role that Malthouse wants to play. Toovey is better for the running defensive midfielder / small medium defender than Stanley, and that is why he is in.

As has been mentioned, if any of the slower in-and-unders got injured or fell out of form, I would expect Stanley to be the first to get in. Swan, Pendles, O'Bree, Lockyer.

Again with the "running" in conjunction with Toovey's name. The only running this boy does is around in circles. I would far prefer Stanners to be brought into the team and rotated through the midfield and swing Daisy to a permanent half back flank or back pocket (as we all know he can now play their after his NAB Cup efforts). Toovey masquerades as a stopper but when has he actually stopped anyone?

I'm sorry, I don't care what his role is - he is not competent enough to carry it out at AFL level.

 

[Optimax]

Again with the "running" in conjunction with Toovey's name. The only running this boy does is around in circles. I would far prefer Stanners to be brought into the team and rotated through the midfield and swing Daisy to a permanent half back flank or back pocket (as we all know he can now play their after his NAB Cup efforts). Toovey masquerades as a stopper but when has he actually stopped anyone?

Mark williams
kayne pettifer/nathan brown
Jason Gram
Ryan O'keefe

 

[Brodeywa]

I hope Malthouse watches the same game i watch as Toovey turns the ball over more than Stanley does to be honest! needs to handball more. I would have thought with the amount of Patful types Brisbane have it would be a great opportunity to throw more midfield type players at them. Toovey was just okay against Adelaide and terrible against Melbourne but Malthouse likes him becuase of the broken foot he played through....

Cook has been impressive in the VFL/pre-season 30 odd touches a few weeks while keeping his man quiet, i think he's starting to come on...

 

[Bonuspoints]

Stanley is pretty unlucky in that Beams got the opening ahead of him and given the way Beams has played he can't get in ahead of him. I'd say his opening is going to come from O'bree getting a rest or maybe one of the other inside mids. I hope he gets a shot and at least 2-3 games in a row to show what he's got. If he doesn't get much of a crack this year (like 08) and we part ways with MM it will be interesting to see what happens with him.