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Only 4 Premiers have scored at least 22% of their total score each quarter in the grand final.
Fitzroy 1923 - 31.75%, 22.22%, 23.81%, 22.22% v Essendon 46.65%, 30.43%, 8.70%, 15.22%
St Kilda 1966 - 22.97%, 25.68%, 28.38%, 22.97% v Collingwood 17.81%, 32.88%, 21.92%, 27.40%
Geelong 2007 - 22.70%, 25.77%, 28.22%, 23.31% v Port Adelaide 31.82%, 29.55%, 18.18%, 20.45%
Geelong 2011 - 22.69%, 22.69%, 26.05%, 28.57% v Collingwood 32.10%, 38.27%, 25.93%, 3.70%

Only 1 runner-up has scored at least 22% of their total score each quarter in the grand final.
Richmond 1972 - 22.67%, 23.33%, 24.00%, 30.00% v Carlton 29.38%, 35.03%, 25.42%, 10.17%

10 premiers have scored less than 10% of their total score in the last quarter of the grand final - the last being Carlton in 1968.
16 runners-up have scored less than 10% of their total score in the last quarter of the grand final - the most recent being Collingwood in 2011 and St Kilda in 2009.
 
Collingwood in 1929 were the first to record a complete season average score of 100 points or more. Carlton and Geelong followed in 1932.

Nth Melbourne first recorded a season average score of 100 points or more in 1974.

Fremantle have so far only recored an average score of 100 points or more once - in 2007.

Melbourne last had an average score of 100 or more in 2002.

West Coast is the only team to have had an aveage score of 100 or more in their debut season.

Hawthorn in 1928 were the first to conceded an average of 100 points or more in a season. Fitzroy followed in 1929.

Carlton first conceded an average score of 100 in 1983.

Adelaide, Geelong, and Sydney/SM all last conceded an average score of 100 points or more in 2000.

Of teams that have joined the competition after 1986, Port Adelaide are the only ones to not have conceded an average of 100 points or more in their debut season.
 
Some observations on how the number 27 was prominent in North Melbourne's grand final appearances of 1977.

  • 1977 marked 27 years since North Melbourne first appeared in a grand final
  • They were forced to play both grand finals without their captain Keith Greig, who had a knee injury. Greig's guernsey number was 27
  • In the draw, North were trailing by 27 points at 3/4 time
  • At 3/4 time in the draw, there were a combined total of 27 behinds (North 15, Collingwood 12)
  • At 3/4 time in the replay, there were a combined total of 27 goals (North 15, Collingwood 12)
  • The replay was North Melbourne's 27th game of the season, the only time a team has played this many
  • John Cassin was the only player to play all 27 games, again, the only time this has occurred
  • North won the replay by 27 points
 

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worbod said:
Some observations on how the number 27 was prominent in North Melbourne's grand final appearances of 1977.

  • 1977 marked 27 years since North Melbourne first appeared in a grand final
  • They were forced to play both grand finals without their captain Keith Greig, who had a knee injury. Greig's guernsey number was 27
  • In the draw, North were trailing by 27 points at 3/4 time
  • At 3/4 time in the draw, there were a combined total of 27 behinds (North 15, Collingwood 12)
  • At 3/4 time in the replay, there were a combined total of 27 goals (North 15, Collingwood 12)
  • The replay was North Melbourne's 27th game of the season, the only time a team has played this many
  • John Cassin was the only player to play all 27 games, again, the only time this has occurred
  • North won the replay by 27 points
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Nth Melbourne's 27th match after joining the League, round 10 1926 was also against Collingwood.
The next time after the 1977 GF replay that Nth Melbourne lost a final to Collingwood (the 1979 PF) the margin was 27 points.
 
RogersResults said:
Fun stuff (Are you related to A. Gigacz?)

There's even more!
Nth Melbourne's 27th match after joining the League, round 10 1926 was also against Collingwood.
The next time after the 1977 GF replay that Nth Melbourne lost a final to Collingwood (the 1979 PF) the margin was 27 points.
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I know what I'm about to say isn't Football related but anyway;

What do Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison have in common?

They all died at 27 years old.
 
RedmanWasHere said:
I know what I'm about to say isn't Football related but anyway;

What do Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison have in common?

They all died at 27 years old.
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There's 12 more musicians who died at 27 here. (And thousand's more who didn't all over the internet but humans like patterns.)
I hear the clubs are using 'heatmaps', blobs of patterned colour to give graphical representation of Jack Dyer's maxim "Don't be where the ball ain't!"
 
Over the Border(Figures include finals.)
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Since moving to Sydney, the Swans have won 57.44% of their matches in Sydney and 37.84% of their matches played in Victoria. (In the 31 seasons before moving from Melbourne to Sydney, they won 35.48% of their matches.)

Since 1982 Nth Melbourne and Adelaide (from 1991) have won a higher percentage of their matches played in NSW than have the Swans.

Port Adelaide are the only non West Australian club to have a match/win% over 50% in W.A.

Geelong is the only Victorian club to have a match/win% over 50% from matches played in Queensland since 1987.

Collingwood is the only Victorian club to have a match/win% over 50% from matches played in South Australia since 1991.

Since 1991 Nth Melbourne have played as many matches in Tasmania and the territories as Carlton have played in South Australia.

Of current teams that have been playing since League clubs became based outside of Victoria, the lowest match/win% from matches in any state has been Melbourne’s 17.24% in South Australia.

Since the Swans relocated to Sydney, interstate clubs to have played the highest percentage of their matches in NSW have been Nth Melbourne and Geelong – Adelaide and Carlton the lowest percentage.

Non-West Australian clubs to play the highest percentage of their matches in W.A. are Port Adelaide, Carlton (and Gold Coast) – Collingwood the least.

Of clubs not based in Queensland, Adelaide have played the highest percentage of their matches there and Fremantle the least.

Amongst the non South Australians, Fremantle have played the highest percentage of their matches in South Australia and Brisbane the least (excluding Fitzroy and GWS)

2011-2012 Collinwood’s percentage of matches played in Victoria has decreased by 3.77% from 1987-2012 - Nth Melbourne’s has decreased by just under 10%.

Some tables here:
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Here's a sporting stat involving two footy players:

I borrowed a book from the local library this week about the history of Bendigo District Cricket, published in 1991. In the stats section it is noted that one of the highest partnerships in Bendigo District Cricket was an unbroken 273 for the second wicket, made by Maristians versus North Bendigo in 1970-71. The two batsmen involved in this partnership were future VFL stars Kevin Sheehan (108*) and Geoff Southby (162*).
 
Premiers Compared - Combined Season Margins

  • 22 Premiers have been ahead of all opponents in season results.
    (1 Premier was ahead of all opponents in season results and even with one opponent – 26.12-168 v 23.30-168 from the 2 matches against that opponent.)
  • 18 Premiers had combined season points deficits of 100 points or more from the results against one or a combination of opponents.

  • 3 Premiers have had season points deficits of 60 points or more against the runners-up.

Details and Tables here:
 
RedmanWasHere said:
I know what I'm about to say isn't Football related but anyway;

What do Amy Winehouse, Kurt Cobain, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix and Jim Morrison have in common?

They all died at 27 years old.
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Haven't all of them also died by their own actions?
 

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With Richmond and Carlton soon to kick off in their now traditional Round 1 encounter, I felt inspired to remind you of that memorable clash between these two clubs from round 22, 1999. This was the game where the scoreboard caught fire, delaying the start of the game by almost half an hour. And do you all recall that the time the scoreboard caught fire was 7:34? When these numerals are viewed in digital number form, as they were when displayed upon the MCG scoreboard, and then turned upside down, they spell "hEL" (the digital 4 representing a lowercase h).
 
worbod said:
With Richmond and Carlton soon to kick off in their now traditional Round 1 encounter, I felt inspired to remind you of that memorable clash between these two clubs from round 22, 1999. This was the game where the scoreboard caught fire, delaying the start of the game by almost half an hour. And do you all recall that the time the scoreboard caught fire was 7:34? When these numerals are viewed in digital number form, as they were when displayed upon the MCG scoreboard, and then turned upside down, they spell "hEL" (the digital 4 representing a lowercase h).
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god i remember that so well but had no idea when it was.
 
'Home and away' attendances of 80,000 or more.

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  • The first 'home and away' attendance of 80,000 or more, 99,346 for the round 10 1958 match
    between Melbourne and Collingwood remains the record for any 'home and away' fixture.
  • The only one of the 64 matches with 'home and away' attendances of 80,000 or more not at
    the MCG was round 11, 1981 at Waverley when 92,935 saw Hawthorn defeat Collingwood by
    46 points.
  • 33 of the attendances have been since 2000 with 26 of the matches involving Collingwood.
  • Geelong and Melbourne's relatively high match/win% in these matches is from periods where
    they were performing well - Melbourne was undefeated on top of the ladder at the time of their
    last 'home and away' attendance of 80,000 or more in 1971.
  • Essendon and Richmond's M/W% figures suggest that they still tend to attract supporters even when
    they are not currently amongst the top performing teams.
  • In Geelong's first 'home and away' match with an 80,000 plus attendance in 1963, they lost
    to Melbourne with a score of 4.11-35. The Cat's next 'home and away' 80,0000 plus attendance
    was not until round 11 1989 when they defeated Essendon who scored 4.11-35.
  • Collingwood was once threatened with expulsion from the League when they refused to agree to
    a transfer of a Monday Kings Birthday holiday fixture against Carlton from Victoria Park to the MCG.
    (A compromise was reached and the match remained at Victoria Park while the MCG hosted an amateur
    rugby union match for charity that afternoon.)
 
Number of times each club has had the highest match/win percentage
(or a higher 'for and against' percentage if equal on m/w% with another club)
for a complete season (finals included).

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(Adelaide, Gold Coast, GWS Giants, Fremantle, University - 0)
 
In the 116 seasons, how often has the team with the best match/win percentage been the premier that year?

And is it markedly different to the team with the best for/against percentage?
 

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stemline said:
In the 116 seasons, how often has the team with the best match/win percentage been the premier that year?

And is it markedly different to the team with the best for/against percentage?
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Teams with the best or equal* match/win percentage for the complete season have been premiers 88 times
2nd highest m/w% 21 times
3rd highest m/w% 4 times (Nth Melb. 1975, 1977, Brisbane 2003, Sydney 2005)
4th highest m/w% once (Fitzroy 1916)
5th highest m/w% 2 times (Melbourne 1900, Adelaide 1998)
* If equal with a highest for and against %

69 Premiers have recorded the highest for and against percentage for the complete season.
 
Thanks mate. 88/116 (76%) seems about right. But I did think that the best f/a percentage would be better than 60% success rate. You hear a lot of people say that percentage can be a really good indicator on a ladder where the draw isn't equal.

To be a pain, are the figures greatly different after say 1990?
 
stemline said:
Thanks mate. 88/116 (76%) seems about right. But I did think that the best f/a percentage would be better than 60% success rate. You hear a lot of people say that percentage can be a really good indicator on a ladder where the draw isn't equal.

To be a pain, are the figures greatly different after say 1990?
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People say a lot of things without any factual knowledge.

1991-2012: 13 of the premiers would have been top of a complete season ladder. (59%)

1991-2012: 9 of the premiers have had the highest for and against percentage for the complete season. (41%)

The above figures may indicate that the premiership has become more of an endurance race, with pacing performance (Sydney last year) as important or more important than belting a string of opponents in mid-season (Hawthorn last year).

A statistical analysis of all the known variables might identify such a trend.
 
Miles Bridgland said:
definately
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Noooooooo, not Jimi!

"The night I saw Jimi was the night I decided to become a professional musician...Hendrix came out and none of us really knew anything about him apart from he was supposed to be this magical guitarist...And it was just completely mesmerising and overwhelming and inspiring, and I've been just hooked ever since...That one side [of Electric Ladyland] is as great a side of a record as has ever been made."

- Springsteen guitarist Nils Lofgren
 
The GWS v Sydney match featured the greatest age disparity between opposing teams in VFL/AFL history.

Greatest differences, down to the first win by the younger team at #36:

Rank|Diff|Year|Rd|Winner|Age|Loser|Age|Margin
\1|5.51|2013|1|Sy|27.11|GWS|21.60|30
\2|4.86|1909|10|Ca|26.75|Un|21.88|20
\3|4.82|2011|20|Ge|27.33|GC|22.52|150
\4|4.79|1911|4|Ca|26.45|Un|21.66|21
\5|4.79|1908|18|Ca|26.86|Un|22.07|39
\6|4.77|1911|15|Ca|26.75|St|21.98|114
\7|4.66|1989|18|Br|26.88|NM|22.22|83
\8|4.55|1912|7|Ca|26.99|Ri|22.44|69
\9|4.47|1912|8|Me|26.71|Ri|22.23|65
\10|4.41|1945|8|Fi|27.54|Co|23.13|95
\11|4.37|2005|13|PA|27.59|Ha|23.22|117
\12|4.35|1904|4|Co|27.36|Fi|23.01|9
\13|4.34|1922|1|Ri|27.74|Co|23.40|17
\14|4.29|2011|10|Ge|26.77|GC|22.48|66
\15|4.23|1989|17|Ha|26.24|NM|22.01|76
\16|4.22|1910|8|Ca|26.67|Ri|22.45|9
\17|4.20|1914|17|Fi|26.54|Un|22.34|89
\18|4.19|1913|5|Ca|26.45|Un|22.26|16
\19|4.19|1910|6|Ca|26.35|Un|22.16|39
\20|4.19|1945|2|Sy|27.58|Co|23.39|10
\21|4.16|1945|9|Fi|28.03|Me|23.87|20
\22|4.12|1914|14|Co|26.24|Un|22.12|80
\23|4.10|2011|19|Ge|27.41|Me|23.31|186
\24|4.10|1911|17|Me|26.07|Un|21.97|62
\25|4.10|1989|22|Sy|26.63|NM|22.53|43
\26|4.10|1911|13|Ca|25.89|Un|21.79|44
\27|4.04|1945|8|Sy|26.79|Me|22.75|30
\28|4.03|1910|15|Ca|26.15|Un|22.12|28
\29|4.01|1911|8|Me|25.92|Un|21.91|28
\30|4.01|1923|2|Es|27.25|Co|23.24|14
\31|3.94|1911|16|Co|26.23|Un|22.29|89
\32|3.94|1990|5|Ha|26.10|NM|22.15|30
\33|3.94|1911|14|Ca|26.80|Ri|22.86|35
\34|3.93|1924|8|Ri|27.21|Co|23.29|25
\35|3.91|2012|17|Fr|25.17|GWS|21.26|95
\36|3.91|1925|3|Co|23.08|Ha|26.99|17
 

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