Stats questions

[35Daicos]

Carlton also kicked 13.0 in R20 1970 v Hawthorn.

From The Age:

 

[Ron The Bear]

Have to ask, what's the most consecutive goals scored by a side before registering their first behind? Crows 14.0.84 at half time today against the Hawks.

The only contender to beat this is Essendon in R11 1979 who went from 11.0 at half time to 16.7. Unfortunately Google newspaper archive is missing most issues of The Age for that month including the key one on 19/6.

 

[35Daicos]

The only contender to beat this is Essendon in R11 1979 who went from 11.0 at half time to 16.7. Unfortunately Google newspaper archive is missing most issues for that month including the key one on 19/6.

From The Age on Newspapers.com (just 11 straight):

 

[Cuzz09]

Not a team but didn't Plugged kick like 23 straight in 1995?



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[Ron The Bear]

Not a team but didn't Plugged kick like 23 straight in 1995?

29, equalled by Luke Breust in 2014.

 

[35Daicos]

29, equalled by Luke Breust in 2014.

3 of Breust's shots during that record-equalling run did go out of bounds, apparently, but it was still 29 goals and 0 behinds!: Hawthorn forward Luke Breust zeroes in on Tony ‘Plugger’ Lockett’s accuracy record | The Advertiser (adelaidenow.com.au)


Whether or not Lockett missed any completely during his streak doesn't seem to have been recorded. He probably didn't!

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Port kicked 10.0 in the first quarter at the Gabba in 2009 and then 4.8 for the rest of the game and lost by 15 pts.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Slightly off topic but St Kilda's 12.1 at Adelaide Oval last year v Port is the most accurate completed score, and win.

https://australianfootball.com/leagues/accurate_scoring/AFL/138/Premiership+Season/1

 

[Catsace]

The only contender to beat this is Essendon in R11 1979 who went from 11.0 at half time to 16.7. Unfortunately Google newspaper archive is missing most issues of The Age for that month including the key one on 19/6.

That period would have entailed a media strike, i think Rd 13 that season where i believe stats like who kicked behinds for various sides that day were not officially recorded. Funnily enough earlier in 1979, Geelong did got from 5.8.38 to 20.8.128 against St.Kilda at Moorabbin in kicking 15 straight goals which was a record to that point. But they had 8 points to start with.

 

[35Daicos]

That period would have entailed a media strike, i think Rd 13 that season where i believe stats like who kicked behinds for various sides that day were not officially recorded. Funnily enough earlier in 1979, Geelong did got from 5.8.38 to 20.8.128 against St.Kilda at Moorabbin in kicking 15 straight goals which was a record to that point. But they had 8 points to start with.

From The Age:

 

[iluvparis]

From The Age:
View attachment 1112218

Can you imagine Robbo reading this and heading to the dictionary to look up 'slew foots'

 

[FitzroyPete]

Continuing on the Adelaide theme, with the Crows kicking 10.0 in Q2 but only finishing with 16.3 (99), I wonder how many teams have booted 10-plus goals in a quarter but failed to reach 100 points?
I know Port Adelaide only scored 14.8 (92) after posting 10.0 in Q1 against Brisbane at the Gabba in Round 21, 2009.
I'd hazard a guess that prior to the Crows' effort against Hawthorn on Sunday, the Power was the most recent side to kick a double-figure goal tally in one quarter and still lose.

 

[Ron The Bear]

10-goal quarter with final score under 100

Year	Round	Club	Quarter	Q	Score	Opp
2021	6	Adel	10.0	2nd	99	Haw
2015	15	W.B.	10.2	4th	95	G.C.
2009	21	P.A.	10.0	1st	92	Bris
2001	1	P.A.	10.5	3rd	99	Bris
1992	2	Ess	11.1	4th	98	Fitz
1964	10	Fitz	10.3	3rd	85	W.B.
1940	8	Geel	10.7	4th	98	N.M.

10-goal quarter and lost

Year	Round	Club	Quarter	Q	Opp	Mgn	Venue
2021	6	Adel	10.0	2nd	Haw	3	UTas Stadium
2009	21	P.A.	10.0	1st	Bris	15	Gabba
2001	16	N.M.	12.1	1st	Ess	12	MCG
2000	16	Bris	11.0	3rd	Carl	44	Gabba
1993	3	Melb	10.7	3rd	Bris	2	Gabba
1992	2	Ess	11.1	4th	Fitz	52	MCG
1991	22	N.M.	10.4	2nd	Fitz	1	Princes Park
1991	6	Syd	10.3	2nd	N.M.	54	MCG
1989	9	Fitz	10.3	3rd	Carl	37	Princes Park
1989	5	N.M.	10.2	4th	Rich	37	MCG
1984	18	Syd	10.0	3rd	N.M.	15	SCG
1984	11	N.M.	11.4	3rd	Fitz	14	Junction Oval
1983	17	Fitz	12.6	2nd	St.K	11	Junction Oval
1981	3	Haw	10.2	2nd	Syd	22	Waverley
1978	21	Rich	10.4	1st	Fitz	17	Junction Oval
1976	11	Ess	10.4	2nd	Fitz	10	Waverley
1973	5	W.B.	10.4	2nd	Haw	16	Glenferrie
1964	10	Fitz	10.3	3rd	W.B.	8	Whitten Oval
1942	2	Melb	10.4	3rd	Rich	79	Punt Rd
1934	5	N.M.	10.2	1st	Melb	2	Arden St

Can recall the North v Richmond 1989 game. It got very dark and they didn't turn the lights on. Richmond kicked 8 goals of their own in this quarter and extended their lead from 46 to 85 points; most of North's goals were scored in the second half of the quarter. Was #1 pick Richard Lounder's debut; he kicked 4 goals by staying in the goal square.

 

[35Daicos]

Continuing on the Adelaide theme, with the Crows kicking 10.0 in Q2 but only finishing with 16.3 (99), I wonder how many teams have booted 10-plus goals in a quarter but failed to reach 100 points?
I know Port Adelaide only scored 14.8 (92) after posting 10.0 in Q1 against Brisbane at the Gabba in Round 21, 2009.
I'd hazard a guess that prior to the Crows' effort against Hawthorn on Sunday, the Power was the most recent side to kick a double-figure goal tally in one quarter and still lose.

Just beaten to the punch! I'll put this here anyway!

Good to see you around, FitzroyPete! 6 times (prior to the other day's game) a team has had a 10+ goal quarter but failed to reach 100 points. On 3 of those occasions the team has lost. Port Adelaide in 2009 was the most recent loser of those teams.

 

[Cuzz09]

rd 2 1992

Essendon kicked 11 goals in the last qtr v Fitzroy at the MCG and still lost by 52 points.

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[iluvparis]

Honestly don't remember this game at all with the Blues up by 11 goals at half time having kicked 9 in the second quarter and still leading by 5 goals at 3/4 time despite Brisbane kicking 11.0 in Q3 (with the Blues also kicking 5 the third quarter must have gone forever!)

AFL Tables - Brisbane Lions v Carlton - Sun, 25-Jun-2000 12:40 PM - Match Stats

afltables.com

 

[Catsace]

From The Age:
View attachment 1112356

That's exactly it. But i remember that vividly as an 11 y/o listening to the footy on 3GL back in the day

Yep, i'm old..because what i watched is rapidly becoming ancient history!

 

[FitzroyPete]

Many thanks and great work re the 10-goal quarter stats, 35Daicos and Ron The Bear.
The only footy stats you blokes don't know haven't yet been invented.

 

[RobbieGray17]

What are some of the biggest differentials for a season between win average and loss average.

In 2016 Port Adelaide had 10 wins at an average of 50 points, and 12 losses at an average of 27 points. Were there any teams that had big numbers on both sides. Say 40 point wins and 40 point losses.

 

[Ron The Bear]

What are some of the biggest differentials for a season between win average and loss average.

In 2016 Port Adelaide had 10 wins at an average of 50 points, and 12 losses at an average of 27 points. Were there any teams that had big numbers on both sides. Say 40 point wins and 40 point losses.

Includes all cases of 40+ either way

Year	Club	Record	AWM	ALM	Diff​
2013	GWS	1-21	37.0	71.6	108.6​
2008	Geel	23-2	51.9	56.0	107.9
2012	GWS	2-20	30.5	77.1	107.6​
1996	Adel	8-14	63.6	43.1	106.7
2011	Melb	8-13-1	49.6	56.8	106.4
1986	St.K	2-20	63.5	42.4	105.9
1929	Coll	19-1	43.7	62.0	105.7
2000	W.C.	7-14-1	61.7	43.9	105.6
1990	Rich	7-15	46.7	57.9	104.6
1993	Bris	4-16	52.5	51.8	104.3
1987	Syd	15-9	58.7	45.2	104.0
1995	Carl	23-2	39.6	64.0	103.6​
1992	Bris	4-17-1	37.5	66.0	103.5​
1996	Fitz	1-21	31.0	72.1	103.1​
1983	N.M.	16-8	54.3	48.5	102.8
1991	Haw	19-6	57.1	44.8	101.9
1994	Haw	13-10	50.9	50.2	101.1
1985	Syd	7-15	67.3	33.4	100.7​
1985	Ess	20-5	49.2	50.7	99.9
1992	Geel	18-8	69.7	29.8	99.5​
2011	Coll	22-3	53.1	45.7	98.8
1993	Syd	1-19	40.0	58.1	98.1
2004	P.A.	20-5	47.3	50.8	98.1
2001	W.C.	5-17	35.0	62.2	97.2​
1991	Coll	12-9-1	56.6	40.3	96.9
1966	Melb	3-15	61.3	35.3	96.6​
1996	Melb	7-15	32.7	63.3	96.0​
1992	Adel	11-11	49.2	46.4	95.5
1986	Haw	20-5	53.6	41.8	95.4
1996	N.M.	19-6	50.2	44.7	94.8
1986	Melb	7-15	34.1	60.6	94.7​
1981	N.M.	10-12	55.7	38.7	94.4​
1990	Bris	4-18	45.5	48.6	94.1
1990	N.M.	12-10	56.7	37.1	93.8​
1982	Geel	7-15	53.3	39.5	92.8​
1979	Coll	17-9	52.6	40.2	92.8
2012	Bris	10-12	41.8	50.5	92.3
1991	Bris	3-19	39.7	51.8	91.5​
1991	Adel	10-12	38.9	52.5	91.4​
2016	Frem	4-18	49.8	41.3	91.1
1992	Rich	5-17	34.8	56.0	90.8​
1988	Rich	8-14	40.5	50.2	90.7
1979	Fitz	16-8	53.3	36.5	89.8​
1989	W.C.	7-15	47.1	41.9	89.1
1980	W.B.	5-17	37.8	51.2	89.0​
2011	W.B.	9-13	48.1	40.6	88.7
2012	Melb	4-18	37.8	50.7	88.4​
2000	St.K	2-19-1	43.0	45.4	88.4
1956	N.M.	3-15	48.3	39.9	88.2​
1988	Ess	12-10	47.7	40.3	88.0
1981	St.K	5-17	52.4	35.2	87.6​
1988	Fitz	7-15	40.9	46.4	87.3
1964	Syd	2-16	48.0	39.1	87.1​
1993	Rich	5-17	33.3	53.8	87.0​
1987	W.B.	11-10-1	37.1	49.5	86.6​
1983	Carl	13-10	41.1	45.1	86.2
1911	St.K	2-16	34.5	51.5	86.0​
2013	Melb	2-20	22.0	64.0	86.0​
1994	Carl	15-9	53.7	32.1	85.8​
2005	P.A.	12-11-1	39.5	46.2	85.7​
1998	Melb	16-9	35.7	49.9	85.6​
1942	St.K	6-8	31.8	53.6	85.5​
2012	W.B.	5-17	31.4	53.9	85.3​
1985	Carl	15-8	43.0	42.3	85.3
1992	W.B.	17-8	45.4	39.9	85.2​
1978	St.K	11-10-1	32.3	52.8	85.1​
1982	Fitz	12-9-1	39.5	45.6	85.1​
1992	Ess	12-10	30.8	54.2	85.0​
2005	Bris	10-12	45.2	39.8	85.0​
1989	Geel	18-8	64.7	20.1	84.8​
2006	Rich	11-11	28.2	56.5	84.6​
2004	St.K	17-8	47.0	37.5	84.5​
1986	Ess	12-11	57.8	26.6	84.4​
1996	Geel	13-9-1	45.7	38.7	84.4​
1981	Syd	8-14	37.4	46.9	84.2​
2000	Frem	8-14	20.3	63.9	84.1​
1996	W.C.	16-8	45.6	38.5	84.1​
2017	Adel	17-71	53.2	30.9	84.0​
2016	G.C.	6-16	38.5	45.4	83.9​
2003	St.K	11-11	37.7	46.1	83.8​
1994	W.C.	19-6	46.2	37.5	83.7​
1986	Coll	12-10	46.7	36.9	83.6​
1979	W.B.	7-14-1	34.3	49.1	83.4​
2000	Carl	17-8	55.3	28.0	83.3​
1994	Rich	12-10	31.8	51.5	83.3​
1997	Melb	4-18	24.8	58.4	83.1​
2012	W.C.	16-8	49.4	33.8	83.1​
2000	Bris	13-11	51.9	31.2	83.1​
2014	St.K	4-18	24.5	58.6	83.1​
1930	N.M.	1-17	28.0	54.6	82.6​
2015	Adel	14-9	41.8	40.7	82.5
1995	Fitz	2-20	22.0	60.4	82.4​
2011	N.M.	10-12	46.0	36.3	82.3​
1990	W.C.	17-8-1	36.8	45.5	82.3​
2016	P.A.	10-12	50.1	32.1	82.2​
2007	Bris	9-11-2	50.2	31.9	82.1​
2013	St.K	5-17	46.6	35.4	82.0​
1997	Rich	10-12	27.9	54.1	82.0​
1985	Haw	17-8-1	50.5	31.4	81.9​
2000	Haw	13-11	35.2	46.5	81.8​
1952	Geel	18-2-1	33.7	48.0	81.7​
2010	Coll	20-4-2	49.4	32.3	81.7​
1983	St.K	5-17	36.4	45.2	81.6​
1985	Rich	9-13	37.8	43.7	81.5​
1995	Frem	8-14	44.6	36.8	81.4​
2017	P.A.	14-9	53.4	28.0	81.4​
1982	Haw	18-7	48.4	32.9	81.3​
2001	N.M.	15-10	38.4	42.8	81.2​
1982	Carl	19-6-1	44.9	36.2	81.1​
1944	Ess	13-5-2	50.7	30.4	81.1​
1963	Fitz	1-17	36.0	45.1	81.1​
1987	Ess	9-12-1	34.7	46.3	80.9​
1996	Rich	11-11	55.8	25.1	80.9​
2019	Rich	19-6	34.7	46.2	80.9​
1986	Carl	17-8	56.2	24.6	80.9​
2012	Ess	11-11	40.5	40.4	80.8

 

[X_box_X]

The Bulldogs haven't played in a draw since round five 2008. I know this is the longest active streak in the AFL. Can anyone confirm if this current streak by the Bulldogs is a record for them?

 

[35Daicos]

The Bulldogs haven't played in a draw since round five 2008. I know this is the longest active streak in the AFL. Can anyone confirm if this current streak by the Bulldogs is a record for them?

No, it's not. They went from Rd. 1 1957 to Rd. 8 1973 without playing a draw.

 

[iluvparis]

Includes all cases of 40+ either way

Year	Club	Record	AWM	ALM	Diff​
2013	GWS	1-21	37.0	71.6	108.6​
2008	Geel	23-2	51.9	56.0	107.9
2012	GWS	2-20	30.5	77.1	107.6​
1996	Adel	8-14	63.6	43.1	106.7
2011	Melb	8-13-1	49.6	56.8	106.4
1986	St.K	2-20	63.5	42.4	105.9
1929	Coll	19-1	43.7	62.0	105.7
2000	W.C.	7-14-1	61.7	43.9	105.6
1990	Rich	7-15	46.7	57.9	104.6
1993	Bris	4-16	52.5	51.8	104.3
1987	Syd	15-9	58.7	45.2	104.0
1995	Carl	23-2	39.6	64.0	103.6​
1992	Bris	4-17-1	37.5	66.0	103.5​
1996	Fitz	1-21	31.0	72.1	103.1​
1983	N.M.	16-8	54.3	48.5	102.8
1991	Haw	19-6	57.1	44.8	101.9
1994	Haw	13-10	50.9	50.2	101.1
1985	Syd	7-15	67.3	33.4	100.7​
1985	Ess	20-5	49.2	50.7	99.9
1992	Geel	18-8	69.7	29.8	99.5​
2011	Coll	22-3	53.1	45.7	98.8
1993	Syd	1-19	40.0	58.1	98.1
2004	P.A.	20-5	47.3	50.8	98.1
2001	W.C.	5-17	35.0	62.2	97.2​
1991	Coll	12-9-1	56.6	40.3	96.9
1966	Melb	3-15	61.3	35.3	96.6​
1996	Melb	7-15	32.7	63.3	96.0​
1992	Adel	11-11	49.2	46.4	95.5
1986	Haw	20-5	53.6	41.8	95.4
1996	N.M.	19-6	50.2	44.7	94.8
1986	Melb	7-15	34.1	60.6	94.7​
1981	N.M.	10-12	55.7	38.7	94.4​
1990	Bris	4-18	45.5	48.6	94.1
1990	N.M.	12-10	56.7	37.1	93.8​
1982	Geel	7-15	53.3	39.5	92.8​
1979	Coll	17-9	52.6	40.2	92.8
2012	Bris	10-12	41.8	50.5	92.3
1991	Bris	3-19	39.7	51.8	91.5​
1991	Adel	10-12	38.9	52.5	91.4​
2016	Frem	4-18	49.8	41.3	91.1
1992	Rich	5-17	34.8	56.0	90.8​
1988	Rich	8-14	40.5	50.2	90.7
1979	Fitz	16-8	53.3	36.5	89.8​
1989	W.C.	7-15	47.1	41.9	89.1
1980	W.B.	5-17	37.8	51.2	89.0​
2011	W.B.	9-13	48.1	40.6	88.7
2012	Melb	4-18	37.8	50.7	88.4​
2000	St.K	2-19-1	43.0	45.4	88.4
1956	N.M.	3-15	48.3	39.9	88.2​
1988	Ess	12-10	47.7	40.3	88.0
1981	St.K	5-17	52.4	35.2	87.6​
1988	Fitz	7-15	40.9	46.4	87.3
1964	Syd	2-16	48.0	39.1	87.1​
1993	Rich	5-17	33.3	53.8	87.0​
1987	W.B.	11-10-1	37.1	49.5	86.6​
1983	Carl	13-10	41.1	45.1	86.2
1911	St.K	2-16	34.5	51.5	86.0​
2013	Melb	2-20	22.0	64.0	86.0​
1994	Carl	15-9	53.7	32.1	85.8​
2005	P.A.	12-11-1	39.5	46.2	85.7​
1998	Melb	16-9	35.7	49.9	85.6​
1942	St.K	6-8	31.8	53.6	85.5​
2012	W.B.	5-17	31.4	53.9	85.3​
1985	Carl	15-8	43.0	42.3	85.3
1992	W.B.	17-8	45.4	39.9	85.2​
1978	St.K	11-10-1	32.3	52.8	85.1​
1982	Fitz	12-9-1	39.5	45.6	85.1​
1992	Ess	12-10	30.8	54.2	85.0​
2005	Bris	10-12	45.2	39.8	85.0​
1989	Geel	18-8	64.7	20.1	84.8​
2006	Rich	11-11	28.2	56.5	84.6​
2004	St.K	17-8	47.0	37.5	84.5​
1986	Ess	12-11	57.8	26.6	84.4​
1996	Geel	13-9-1	45.7	38.7	84.4​
1981	Syd	8-14	37.4	46.9	84.2​
2000	Frem	8-14	20.3	63.9	84.1​
1996	W.C.	16-8	45.6	38.5	84.1​
2017	Adel	17-71	53.2	30.9	84.0​
2016	G.C.	6-16	38.5	45.4	83.9​
2003	St.K	11-11	37.7	46.1	83.8​
1994	W.C.	19-6	46.2	37.5	83.7​
1986	Coll	12-10	46.7	36.9	83.6​
1979	W.B.	7-14-1	34.3	49.1	83.4​
2000	Carl	17-8	55.3	28.0	83.3​
1994	Rich	12-10	31.8	51.5	83.3​
1997	Melb	4-18	24.8	58.4	83.1​
2012	W.C.	16-8	49.4	33.8	83.1​
2000	Bris	13-11	51.9	31.2	83.1​
2014	St.K	4-18	24.5	58.6	83.1​
1930	N.M.	1-17	28.0	54.6	82.6​
2015	Adel	14-9	41.8	40.7	82.5
1995	Fitz	2-20	22.0	60.4	82.4​
2011	N.M.	10-12	46.0	36.3	82.3​
1990	W.C.	17-8-1	36.8	45.5	82.3​
2016	P.A.	10-12	50.1	32.1	82.2​
2007	Bris	9-11-2	50.2	31.9	82.1​
2013	St.K	5-17	46.6	35.4	82.0​
1997	Rich	10-12	27.9	54.1	82.0​
1985	Haw	17-8-1	50.5	31.4	81.9​
2000	Haw	13-11	35.2	46.5	81.8​
1952	Geel	18-2-1	33.7	48.0	81.7​
2010	Coll	20-4-2	49.4	32.3	81.7​
1983	St.K	5-17	36.4	45.2	81.6​
1985	Rich	9-13	37.8	43.7	81.5​
1995	Frem	8-14	44.6	36.8	81.4​
2017	P.A.	14-9	53.4	28.0	81.4​
1982	Haw	18-7	48.4	32.9	81.3​
2001	N.M.	15-10	38.4	42.8	81.2​
1982	Carl	19-6-1	44.9	36.2	81.1​
1944	Ess	13-5-2	50.7	30.4	81.1​
1963	Fitz	1-17	36.0	45.1	81.1​
1987	Ess	9-12-1	34.7	46.3	80.9​
1996	Rich	11-11	55.8	25.1	80.9​
2019	Rich	19-6	34.7	46.2	80.9​
1986	Carl	17-8	56.2	24.6	80.9​
2012	Ess	11-11	40.5	40.4	80.8

Interesting in that 1996 with Adelaide being schizophrenic - Hawthorn scraped into the finals with a 98.5% but there were 3 teams outside the top 8 with a % above 100, including Richmond who could only go 11-11 despite racking up a percentage of 117!

 

[X_box_X]

No, it's not. They went from Rd. 1 1957 to Rd. 8 1973 without playing a draw.

So 16 years without a draw in a period where the Bulldogs only played finals once (1961), and also in a period where they often played only 18 round in a H&A season. Given the Bulldogs have played finals in seven seasons since playing their last draw (combining for a total of 16 finals matches), and playing 22 H&A matches in this period, I'm guessing it's going to be extremely close if you base this on total games played, rather than seasons between draws.

 

[Ron The Bear]

The Bulldogs haven't played in a draw since round five 2008. I know this is the longest active streak in the AFL. Can anyone confirm if this current streak by the Bulldogs is a record for them?

Bulldogs currently 298*

Longest streaks without a draw

Streak	Club	From	To
539	Adel	1994	2017
462	Melb	1971	1992
411	Frem	1995	2013
406	Geel	1969	1987
403	Haw	1968	1985
360	St.K	1922	1943
344	Rich	1980	1995
343	Coll	1995	2010
335	N.M.	1988	2003
333	Melb	1992	2006
332	Fitz	1982	1996
315	Syd	1977	1991
313	W.B.	1957	1973
... longest for other clubs ...
291	Carl	1935	1950
276	W.C.	2003	2015
265	Ess	1929	1944
252*	Bris	2009	2021
185*	P.A.	2013	2021
125	GWS	2012	2017
104	G.C.	2011	2015
90*	Univ	1910	1914