Tom Hawkins is now listed as Tom J Hawkins on the AFL website. Was there another Tom Hawkins that played in the VFL/AFL?
Maybe it's because people always refer to him as "Tom A Hawk(ins)"?
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Tom Hawkins is now listed as Tom J Hawkins on the AFL website. Was there another Tom Hawkins that played in the VFL/AFL?
Tom Hawkins played 1 game for South Melbourne in 1904.Tom Hawkins is now listed as Tom J Hawkins on the AFL website. Was there another Tom Hawkins that played in the VFL/AFL?
Has there ever been a player with a career of at least 50 games who made his debut and played his final game against the same opponent, and also at the same venue?
Has there been any cases of players being born on the same day other players retired?
I've got more than 2,800 instances in my database. Obviously in many cases the "retiring" players wouldn't have been aware they were playing their final game.
One of the longest sequences is
Les Hughes (Co) b. 18/4/1884, 225 games, last game 9/9/1922
Kevin Sullivan (Co) b. 9/9/1922, 13 games, last game 27/4/1946
Barry Leslie (Co, NM) b. 27/4/1946, 5 games, last game 20/7/1968
Garry Phillips (Ge) b. 20/7/1968, 3 games, last game 1/9/1990
Shaun McKernan (Ad) b. 1/9/1990, 23 games...
There are nine such sequences which end in Leslie/Phillips/McKernan, and another four which involve five players and finish with Nathan Brown (Melbourne version).
A few interesting ones:
Brian Dixon (Me 252 games) - 31/8/1968 - Mick Martyn (NM/Car, 300 games)
Francis Bourke (Ri 300) - 27/6/1981 - Andrew Embley (WC 239*)
Barry Breen (St 300) - 10/7/1982 - Sam Fisher (St 182*)
Mick Malthouse (St/Ri 174) - 28/5/1983 - Ben Rutten (Ad 194*)
Kelvin Templeton (WB/Me 177) - 20/7/1985 - David Mundy (Fr 164*)
Robert DiPierdomenico (Ha 240) - 10/6/1991 - Mitch Duncan (Ge 51*)
Bill Jory (NM 1) - 18/6/1938 - Kevin Murray (Fi 333)
Kevin Neale (St 256) - 27/8/1977 - Nick Jewell (Ri 1)
What about two players who played together, where one debuted on the same day another was born?
What about this, players who were born, debuted and retired on the same day as notable global events.
110 such players. Another 6 current players would qualify if they didn't play again.
first - Charlie Sime (Co, 1897-1901) v St.Kilda at Victoria Park
last - Brad Fisher (Ca, 2003-2010) v Collingwood at the MCG
Note the Roof condition in these match reports:anywhere list games at Etihad where the roof was open for the match?
With Mick Malthouse now the coach of Carlton, he's a Premiership-winning coach (1992, 94, 2010) who's now coaching a Premiership Captain (Judd, 2006) at a club that neither won their flag at.
How often has that happened?
Jezza coached himself at St Kilda he also coached Graeme BondWith Mick Malthouse now the coach of Carlton, he's a Premiership-winning coach (1992, 94, 2010) who's now coaching a Premiership Captain (Judd, 2006) at a club that neither won their flag at.
How often has that happened?
Jezza coached himself at St Kilda he also coached Graeme Bond
Oops. Missed the captain bit.Bond wasn't a premiership captain though, was he? I thought Roger Dean was the Tigers' captain back then?
With Mick Malthouse now the coach of Carlton, he's a Premiership-winning coach (1992, 94, 2010) who's now coaching a Premiership Captain (Judd, 2006) at a club that neither won their flag at.
How often has that happened?
Furthering on from that, when was the last time a coach of one premiership team and a player of the same team ended up at the one club but had never had a player/coach relationship prior to arriving at the club?
Tom Hawkins played 1 game for South Melbourne in 1904.
"South Melbourne gave a trial to a smart little fellow named Hawking (sic), from Kyabrum, who was sent roving. In strange company he settled down to work at once, showed none of the diffidence characteristic of the country player, and did really well."
Argus 1 August 1904
Leigh Matthews (coach Collingwood 1986-1995, flag 1990)
Mal Michael (player Collingwood 1997-2000)
Matthews coached Michael at Brisbane in 140 games 2001-2006.
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Would be appreciated cheers