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Steve O'Keefe love thread

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Would you turn for SOK

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 15.2%

  • Of course

    Votes: 4 12.1%

  • This isn't even a question

    Votes: 24 72.7%
  • Total voters
    33

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Plugger35 said:
I always thought he was a better spinner than Lyon and he's well and truly proven it in this test.
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I have been a fan of SOK for years, but that's a massive jumping of the gun. These conditions are great for him, and I am not surprised that he has done well and outperformed Lyon.

However I'm still unsure if he does enough on unfavourable decks to consistently trouble Test batsmen. He does a great job at FC level, but state batsmen tend to be weaker at rotating the strike against accurate bowling. It is therefore easier to build dot ball pressure.

To my mind, Lyon is still the first choice spinner for Australia and rightly so. He is a much more versatile bowler.
 
Harlequin Dream said:
FC bowler who averages 22 becomes a successful Test bowler.

Shouldn't shock anyone. Shocked the selectors though, really shows that you shouldn't over analyse test selections. Dominant FC cricketers should get their opportunities.
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Yep. Get Sayers in ASAP.
 
Demosthenes said:
I have been a fan of SOK for years, but that's a massive jumping of the gun. These conditions are great for him, and I am not surprised that he has done well and outperformed Lyon.

However I'm still unsure if he does enough on unfavourable decks to consistently trouble Test batsmen. He does a great job at FC level, but state batsmen tend to be weaker at rotating the strike against accurate bowling. It is therefore easier to build dot ball pressure.

To my mind, Lyon is still the first choice spinner for Australia and rightly so. He is a much more versatile bowler.
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Lyon bowled well and looked really dangerous. Few chances missed from his bowling.
 

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Demosthenes said:
I have been a fan of SOK for years, but that's a massive jumping of the gun. These conditions are great for him, and I am not surprised that he has done well and outperformed Lyon.

However I'm still unsure if he does enough on unfavourable decks to consistently trouble Test batsmen. He does a great job at FC level, but state batsmen tend to be weaker at rotating the strike against accurate bowling. It is therefore easier to build dot ball pressure.

To my mind, Lyon is still the first choice spinner for Australia and rightly so. He is a much more versatile bowler.
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1 game on a bunsen people are jumping the gun just a tad.
 
Can I claim a left arm round the wicket SOK as my right arm over the wicket leg spinning gun,be fair.
 
Their connection goes well beyond the "left arm orthodox" thing too. Both had their struggles with the grog after slipping out of the limelight - great to see O'Keefe has bounced back from that so quickly.
 
Demosthenes said:
I have been a fan of SOK for years, but that's a massive jumping of the gun. These conditions are great for him, and I am not surprised that he has done well and outperformed Lyon.

However I'm still unsure if he does enough on unfavourable decks to consistently trouble Test batsmen. He does a great job at FC level, but state batsmen tend to be weaker at rotating the strike against accurate bowling. It is therefore easier to build dot ball pressure.

To my mind, Lyon is still the first choice spinner for Australia and rightly so. He is a much more versatile bowler.
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Well O'Keefe at least deserves more opportunities to prove himself in test matches in Australia but that would mean dropping Lyon as they hardly ever play two spinners here.

It's not like Lyon is a truly great spinner like Warne though, there isn't much between him and O'Keefe as spinners and O'Keefe is a better batsman.

The one thing in Lyon's favour is that he seems to be a popular bloke and a good team man which is one of the reasons he's been picked for so long.

There have been rumours that O'Keefe can be an arrogant prick and a bit unlikeable although I've seen no evidence of that myself, he seems like a decent bloke in interviews.
 

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SOK certainly offers a lot in other facets - not only is he a better batsman and fielder than Lyon, but he has a pretty good cricket brain and brings captaincy experience to the side.

If nothing else, the competition should be good for Lyon. Imagine that - Australia having two Test-quality spinners.
 
Plugger35 said:
There have been rumours that O'Keefe can be an arrogant prick and a bit unlikeable although I've seen no evidence of that myself, he seems like a decent bloke in interviews.
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Just going on body language the team itself seem to be huge fans of the bloke, lyon and o keefe seem to be mates as well.

Has to be said a lot of his rep could be booze related, we all turn into arrogant pricks when we drink too much.
 
frankrizzo said:
Just going on body language the team itself seem to be huge fans of the bloke, lyon and o keefe seem to be mates as well.

Has to be said a lot of his rep could be booze related, we all turn into arrogant pricks when we drink too much.
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That's true, even Warner is less of a dickhead now that he's quit the booze.
 
SOKs bowling was far more threatening than Lyon. While it wasn't flashy, didn't spin much, he varied his spin, drift and bounce so much that he became unplayable. His length was perfect - they had to play every ball, and most of his wickets were the arm ball. He even snagged a few that didn't spin much and beat the bat with big turners.

Look at Lyon though, he was turning them big, getting a heap of drift and bounce, but because of that excessive spin, he wasn't too hard to play, you just go with the spin. If he'd pushed a few more through, or even got one to spin the other way like Ashwin did for his 3 wickets, Lyon may well have had a 5 wicket innings.
 
chunkychicken said:
SOKs bowling was far more threatening than Lyon. While it wasn't flashy, didn't spin much, he varied his spin, drift and bounce so much that he became unplayable. His length was perfect - they had to play every ball, and most of his wickets were the arm ball. He even snagged a few that didn't spin much and beat the bat with big turners.

Look at Lyon though, he was turning them big, getting a heap of drift and bounce, but because of that excessive spin, he wasn't too hard to play, you just go with the spin. If he'd pushed a few more through, or even got one to spin the other way like Ashwin did for his 3 wickets, Lyon may well have had a 5 wicket innings.
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O'Keefe has a few more tricks up his sleeve than Lyon with his ability to bowl a good arm ball, Lyon basically just bowls off spinners and relies on variations in pace and bounce to try to fool batsmen.
 

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Plugger35 said:
O'Keefe has a few more tricks up his sleeve than Lyon with his ability to bowl a good arm ball, Lyon basically just bowls off spinners and relies on variations in pace and bounce to try to fool batsmen.
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Yeah well its the reason SOK had 12 for the match and Lyon 2 at one point.

Point in case that Kohli arm ball, outstanding.
 
Hellgood said:
It's quite interesting how he and Smith came through at the same time as extremely promising but "bitser" all-rounders and have gone on to specialise as the best batsman and best spinner in the country respectively (essentially ignoring their second skill).

Is there a lesson in that for Mitch Marsh and Maxwell to just pick one discipline and just roll with it?
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If everyone did that then there would literally be no all-rounders. You could just as easily point to Kallis or Pollock and say 'just be better at everything like these guys were.'
 

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