Stick a fork in Giggs - He's done?

[davey_magik]

You'd think next season would be his last, United would be silly to sign him on for another year after next.

 

[Borgsta]

What Embers said is spot on.

 

[moomba]

With Scholes its a bit interesting, since he had different roles at different times of his carrer, at times he did the Lampard/ Gerrard job of finding a chance to shoot and going for it and being a fulcrum in between, at others he was a support striker for Van Nistelrooy, and now he's acting more like a South American number 10 as a playmaker.

For me, Scholes allowed United to play the tactics that best suited their game. They could play RVN up front by himself because Scholes in the midfield was as good as most second strikers. He performed week in, week out, and he created chances for his teammates becuase you just couldn't leave him alone, particularly just outside the box. His passing is as effective as anyone United have had (including Beckham), less said about his tackling the better.

Whereas Giggs has been consistantly mobile, penetrative and quick on that left wing for 18 years.

When I first came over here Giggs was a teen idol, but couldn't get in the starting lineup ahead of Kanchelskis. And for me his career has been marked by amazing highs, but long periods where he just wasn't performing. Ability unquestioned, but consistency is certainly not something I will remember for him.

 

[eth-dog]

For me, Scholes allowed United to play the tactics that best suited their game. They could play RVN up front by himself because Scholes in the midfield was as good as most second strikers. He performed week in, week out, and he created chances for his teammates becuase you just couldn't leave him alone, particularly just outside the box. His passing is as effective as anyone United have had (including Beckham), less said about his tackling the better.



When I first came over here Giggs was a teen idol, but couldn't get in the starting lineup ahead of Kanchelskis. And for me his career has been marked by amazing highs, but long periods where he just wasn't performing. Ability unquestioned, but consistency is certainly not something I will remember for him.

If that was the case, why did Giggs get VC, not Scholes?

 

[belfast_bomber]

If that was the case, why did Giggs get VC, not Scholes?

That's more to do with their personalities than their play.

Giggs is more outspoken, more of a leader... Scholes is the quiet type and just likes to get on with it, without drawing attention to himself.

 

[moomba]

Exactly, it's one of the things I do like about Scholes as opposed to the majority of gobshites that have turned out for United over the years.

To be fair, Giggs doesn't seem a bad type also.

 

[belfast_bomber]

Couldn't resist a dig could ya?

Actually I think the fact that Scholes is pretty well universally respected throughout the football community, despite having played through the height of ABUism, speaks volumes about him, as a player and a person.

 

[moomba]

Bloody hell, I've made compliment after compliment of a United player. I can't be doing that without getting at least one shot in.

I already feel dirty as it is.

 

[Crimson King]

Giggs will be a coach at United before the end of next season. Ole-esque.

 

[ashley12]

Giggs will be a coach at United before the end of next season. Ole-esque.

I can see that as well, possibly a during the season thing like Solskjaer after he possibly gets the record

 

[moomba]

Just on the Scholes/captaincy thing, Ferguson wass asked yesterday if Scholes would be captain for his 100th (I think) European appearance.

Ferguson said something like "No, Paul would see that as some kind of punishment".

 

[Cooldude]

With Scholes its a bit interesting, since he had different roles at different times of his carrer, at times he did the Lampard/ Gerrard job of finding a chance to shoot and going for it and being a fulcrum in between, at others he was a support striker for Van Nistelrooy, and now he's acting more like a South American number 10 as a playmaker.


Whereas Giggs has been consistantly mobile, penetrative and quick on that left wing for 18 years.

Scholes is so amazingly good that he can adapt in any of those roles without problems. Aside from Ronaldo now, Schole was Man Utd's most important player for years. Whenever he's fit and playing well, they win trophies.

Him and to a lesser extent Giggs are about the only Man Utd players I respect and would gladly have in my team. Schole's the type of footballer who'd just go to training, then go home to his family and do the usual stuff (By all accounts anyway). A total non-w***er as oppose to 95% of the modern footballers.

 

[A Bit High]

15/04/2008 09:30, Report by Ben Hibbs

Giggs: I'll keep on going

Ryan Giggs has not set a retirement date and says he will bring the curtain down on his career when he feels the time is right.

A number of factors will affect his decision, including performance levels and fitness, while the veteran winger says coaching is a possible route to take after retirement.

"I'll think about that a lot more after I’ve done my badges in the summer – I did my ‘B’ badge and enjoyed that," he said. "I do think I’ll be involved in the game in some way but for now I am just concentrating on playing football.”

Giggs will turn 35 in November, and with one year left on his contract has no long-term plans in place. But he does intend to carry on playing as long as he is enjoying his football.

"[I'll retire] when I stop enjoying it and I'm not performing at the level I should be doing," he told Setantasports.com.

"There’s no particular season I’ve got in mind. I’ve got another year after this on my contract, and it will depend on my body, on how I feel, if I’m enjoying it. I'll take it all into consideration. I hope it doesn’t, but if it ended tomorrow, I wouldn’t swap my career for anyone's."

The Welshman could equal Sir Bobby Chartlon's all-time club appearance record if he plays in all of United's remaining games this season, providing the Reds make it to the Champions League final.

"When it comes to personal records I’ve done my best to play things down – winning trophies matters most, it’s as simple as that," he added. "That’s the sole aim and if I pass milestones in the meantime, that’s great."

 

[belfast_bomber]

Bump. 37 today and still going strong.

 

[NMFCMUFC]

The original Messi: