Summer Transfer Window

[Balony_pony16]

Suarez has one excellent year and suddenly he is the greatest.

I would say 2...Best EPL player last season, and runner up before that . I dont get into "Greatest" debates though, as it will always end up in a shitstorm...lol

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Frazier Campbell's move to Leicester not looking good now that you're in for Ulloa Jatz

Please take him, bargain at 800k. Don't want an unhappy player chewing up good wages.

 

[FAITH]

yeh id go aguero maybe for now.
sucks that best players in the world arent in the epl

 

[Loonerty]

Aguero, Toure, Hazard.

 

[jod23]

Our squad is not horrible, that's a ridiculous call jod, ridiculous.

We've got some quality players, and I did say we need to add to that to challenge for the title. I'm sure LVG will be working hard to bring in the right guys.

You sound like someone who can't handle the fact we might be back, we finish 7th one season on over 20 odd years and you seem to think we are a midtable rable, and this is coming from a Liverpool supporter, hilarious!

Ok so it's not horrible. But it's not great. You have blokes like Tom Cleverly, Fellaini and Darren Fletcher running around in midfield. Your wingers are Valencia, Nani and Young. You have Evra, Evans, Smalling and Jones. It's not exactly world class.

You have an old RVP, an aging and not really as good as everyone seems to think Rooney. Mata is class. Janujaz is nowhere near as good as everything thinks. He has a long way to go.

It's not great, im sure you will buy more players to help and LVG is a large upgrade on Moyes but you're not back. You will still start the season well behind City, Chelsea and Arsenal. Suarez is a big blow for us so the jury is out on LFC.

 

[jod23]

If our squad is horrible what does that make yours then? Ours was better than yours with Suarez, without him i guess your going to get relegated?

So your squad finished 7th and we finished 2nd.

Good logic bro.

 

[pantskyle]

My **** is bigger then all of your *****.

Except FAITH. She has the biggest **** of all.

 

[Jatz]

Frazier Campbell's move to Leicester not looking good now that you're in for Ulloa Jatz

Please take him, bargain at 800k. Don't want an unhappy player chewing up good wages.

Apparently we agreed a fee but his wage request was stupidly high.

I'd honestly prefer neither of those two. We are going in one last time for Ulloa, I'm hopeful Brighton hold on to him.

 

[jd2010]

Apparently we agreed a fee but his wage request was stupidly high.

I'd honestly prefer neither of those two. We are going in one last time for Ulloa, I'm hopeful Brighton hold on to him.

Don't know much about Ulloa. Surely for the prices being mentioned there is a decent options out there who have played in better top flight standard football?

 

[Indie_]

Standard one sentence posts from you.

Never any actual analysis.

You want some analysis?

Well let's have a look at the Manchester United team for next year.

De Gea
Rafael Jones Smalling Shaw
Carrick Herrera
Young Rooney Mata
RVP

The defence is extremely suspect. Rafael is capable of playing very well but he was terrible last season, and we're yet to see him perform without SAF's guidance and system. Jones and Smalling are okay, but that's the worst CB pairing of all the teams challenging for the top four. So you'll definitely need to buy another CB to strengthen that area, and you only have Evans in reserve after those two. Luke Shaw might be a world beater one day, but he's far from that stage right now and if he has Herrera and Mata in front of him, your left side is going to be abused by opposing teams all day. It's actually not feasible to play Shaw and Mata on the same side of a team.

Carrick has been very good for a long time now, but he wasn't able to do anything last year. While much of that can be blamed on the system played by Moyes, it's hardly a stretch to think that Carrick is heading into decline, and isn't the player he used to be. So now next to an ageing Carrick, you have a completely untried and untested Herrera. While it's all and well good to sign a player like him, but he's going to be expected to carry the centre of midfield from day one, and who knows how he adapts to English football. It could work, it might not. If it doesn't work early or one injury hits you're back to Fellaini and Cleverly.

Young is absolutely terrible. So are all your other options to replace him other than a 19 year old Januzaj. Rooney has to play in the middle, and the shunts Mata out onto a wing, which means that his effect is automatically curtailed. When he inevitably cuts inside (because he's a central playmaker) that leaves your left side completely exposed because you can bet Shaw is bombing down the flank. Now while Mata can still operate from the left and has proven to be effective from there in the past, that only happens if he's allowed to dominate the ball. When you have Rooney in the no. 10 position, he lacks tactical discipline (his managers have said this in the past) and so he will often get in the way of Mata. Doesn't bode well for your attacking fluidity. If Rooney stops trying to monopolise the ball, and concentrate on making runs into the box, and supporting RVP then you will have a potent attack, but whether Rooney has the tactical discipline is a big query. Not to mention that when you won the title RVP had a career year, he's now 30+ and coming off a lacklustre season and terrible World Cup.

So tell me, why is it fait accompli that Manchester United will be back challenging next year? Because David Moyes is gone? I hope that internally Manchester United blame Moyes for all of their problems, because then they won't be going be very far next year.

 

[ADL9798]

Suarez has one excellent year and suddenly he is the greatest.

28 goals 19 assists in 43 games
49 goals 24 assists in 48 games
30 goals 10 assists in 44 games
31 goals 15 assists in 36 games

Bah. This thread has been rubbish from all sides tonight, I'm out of here.

 

[Gak Attack]

My **** is bigger then all of your *****.

Except FAITH. She has the biggest **** of all.

She has big balls I'm sure.

 

[FAITH]

wtf has happened to pants?

jod23 how you holding up?

 

[pantskyle]

28 goals 19 assists in 43 games
49 goals 24 assists in 48 games
30 goals 10 assists in 44 games
31 goals 15 assists in 36 games

Bah. This thread has been rubbish from all sides tonight, I'm out of here.

What?

Where are you pulling those stats from?

 

[ADL9798]

What?

Where are you pulling those stats from?

Just showing that he didn't pop out of the ground last July after a career of mediocrity.

08/09 and 09/10 seasons with Ajax
12/13 and 13/14 seasons with Liverpool

Google.

 

[Jatz]

Don't know much about Ulloa. Surely for the prices being mentioned there is a decent options out there who have played in better top flight standard football?

I'm definitely with you. It's quoted our final offer for Ulloa is 7.5 mil. That's ridiculous money for someone that really isn't that good and is untried at this level.

I actually couldn't think of a name I'd want to chase for that money. Wickham appealed to me but that's about it.

 

[pantskyle]

08/09 and 09/10 seasons with Ajax
12/13 and 13/14 seasons with Liverpool

Google.

Lol who cares about Ajax.

That has nothing to do with his EPL seasons.

He scored 69 goals in 110 games for Liverpool with one excellent season.

 

[ADL9798]

Lol who cares about Ajax.

That has nothing to do with his EPL seasons.

He scored 69 goals in 110 games for Liverpool with one excellent season.

He was equal to Bale in 2012/13, and are you suggesting that racking up 49 goals and 24 assists in 48 games isn't impressive? I challenge you to find me a better individual season in the history of the Eredivisie.

Like I said, this thread has been an endless stream of crap from everyone tonight. I'm out.

 

[jd2010]

I'm definitely with you. It's quoted our final offer for Ulloa is 7.5 mil. That's ridiculous money for someone that really isn't that good and is untried at this level.

I actually couldn't think of a name I'd want to chase for that money. Wickham appealed to me but that's about it.

It's the same with West Ham going for Enner Valencia for £12m after a decent World Cup.

Surely scouring around the Erevidise or Ligue 1's lower placed sides would be a better option. Someone like Aboubakar would cost about the same you'd think

 

[Jatz]

It's the same with West Ham going for Enner Valencia for £12m after a decent World Cup.

Surely scouring around the Erevidise or Ligue 1's lower placed sides would be a better option. Someone like Aboubakar would cost about the same you'd think

Yeah Pearson has done that a lot in the past which is why I'm surprised. I don't know how much you know of our squad but keep an eye out for Knockaert and Mahrez in the upcoming season. Both signed for very little from small French sides and both have been great for us. Knocky in particular is one of my favourites. Is genuinely in love with the club haha

 

[Gameova_]

If our squad is horrible what does that make yours then? Ours was better than yours with Suarez, without him i guess your going to get relegated?

LOOL!!!!!!!!

 

[PP34]

You want some analysis?

Well let's have a look at the Manchester United team for next year.

De Gea
Rafael Jones Smalling Shaw
Carrick Herrera
Young Rooney Mata
RVP

The defence is extremely suspect. Rafael is capable of playing very well but he was terrible last season, and we're yet to see him perform without SAF's guidance and system. Jones and Smalling are okay, but that's the worst CB pairing of all the teams challenging for the top four. So you'll definitely need to buy another CB to strengthen that area, and you only have Evans in reserve after those two. Luke Shaw might be a world beater one day, but he's far from that stage right now and if he has Herrera and Mata in front of him, your left side is going to be abused by opposing teams all day. It's actually not feasible to play Shaw and Mata on the same side of a team.

Carrick has been very good for a long time now, but he wasn't able to do anything last year. While much of that can be blamed on the system played by Moyes, it's hardly a stretch to think that Carrick is heading into decline, and isn't the player he used to be. So now next to an ageing Carrick, you have a completely untried and untested Herrera. While it's all and well good to sign a player like him, but he's going to be expected to carry the centre of midfield from day one, and who knows how he adapts to English football. It could work, it might not. If it doesn't work early or one injury hits you're back to Fellaini and Cleverly.

Young is absolutely terrible. So are all your other options to replace him other than a 19 year old Januzaj. Rooney has to play in the middle, and the shunts Mata out onto a wing, which means that his effect is automatically curtailed. When he inevitably cuts inside (because he's a central playmaker) that leaves your left side completely exposed because you can bet Shaw is bombing down the flank. Now while Mata can still operate from the left and has proven to be effective from there in the past, that only happens if he's allowed to dominate the ball. When you have Rooney in the no. 10 position, he lacks tactical discipline (his managers have said this in the past) and so he will often get in the way of Mata. Doesn't bode well for your attacking fluidity. If Rooney stops trying to monopolise the ball, and concentrate on making runs into the box, and supporting RVP then you will have a potent attack, but whether Rooney has the tactical discipline is a big query. Not to mention that when you won the title RVP had a career year, he's now 30+ and coming off a lacklustre season and terrible World Cup.

So tell me, why is it fait accompli that Manchester United will be back challenging next year? Because David Moyes is gone? I hope that internally Manchester United blame Moyes for all of their problems, because then they won't be going be very far next year.

On the defence firstly. De Gea will probably continue to improve and should make it harder to concede against us. Regardless, Jones should get better, and I highly doubt Van Gaal and his staff will not try to bring in a talented centre back. As for the Shaw comment, quite baffling. PFA Team of the Year at 19 year's of age. We don't need him to be world class yet anyway. Did you pay close attention to Evra's form over the past three seasons? Quite horrible to say the least.

While the midfield definitely does have it's issues, again I don't think they'll look to stick with Carrick, Fletcher, Cleveley and Fellaini. That's just setting yourself up for failure. Why are all Liverpool fans suddenly assuming that United is incompetent? Yes, Moyes was a huge mistake, so was Fellaini but he's gone now and there are good United people like Giggs plus a great manager to ensure that doesn't happen again. Van Gaal managed Bayern for god's sake, he knows what he's doing.

We've got Valencia and Nani who can play on the wing. While they're not world-beaters, they can do the job, especially Valencia who was pretty good two years ago. You can get away with one hole like that in the team. Januzaj is fine out wide, no idea why his age has relevance. The kid can play and will only get better under a manager with far more knowledge than negative Moyes ever had. Sure our attack is a bit of a mess with players who could get in each others way. Good thing we have a manager to sort that out, right? RVP was injured last year and I seriously doubt Cristiano Ronaldo would've dominated in that Moyes team last year. It was that pathetic going forward. While I don't hold high hopes of RVP having another 2012-2013 season, I still think he can be big for United.

You seem to be assuming that United has reached Liverpool levels of incompetence (obviously they're okay now). Everything suggests the opposite. A good manager can inspire players, get the best out of limited ability and provide plans that can hide weaknesses. That's what Van Gaal is.

What's not to say someone from United's youth teams steps up either, like Januzaj did?

 

[PP34]

LOOL!!!!!!!!

Ours won the title two seasons ago. It hasn't declined that much.

 

[jd2010]

Yeah Pearson has done that a lot in the past which is why I'm surprised. I don't know how much you know of our squad but keep an eye out for Knockaert and Mahrez in the upcoming season. Both signed for very little from small French sides and both have been great for us. Knocky in particular is one of my favourites. Is genuinely in love with the club haha

I remember Knockaert missing the penalty in the play-off semi. Glad that didn't destroy the kid. How's the Kiwi Chris Wood tracking? Will he see PL game time next season?

 

[Pykie]

You want some analysis?

Well let's have a look at the Manchester United team for next year.

De Gea
Rafael Jones Smalling Shaw
Carrick Herrera
Young Rooney Mata
RVP

The defence is extremely suspect. Rafael is capable of playing very well but he was terrible last season, and we're yet to see him perform without SAF's guidance and system. Jones and Smalling are okay, but that's the worst CB pairing of all the teams challenging for the top four. So you'll definitely need to buy another CB to strengthen that area, and you only have Evans in reserve after those two. Luke Shaw might be a world beater one day, but he's far from that stage right now and if he has Herrera and Mata in front of him, your left side is going to be abused by opposing teams all day. It's actually not feasible to play Shaw and Mata on the same side of a team.

Carrick has been very good for a long time now, but he wasn't able to do anything last year. While much of that can be blamed on the system played by Moyes, it's hardly a stretch to think that Carrick is heading into decline, and isn't the player he used to be. So now next to an ageing Carrick, you have a completely untried and untested Herrera. While it's all and well good to sign a player like him, but he's going to be expected to carry the centre of midfield from day one, and who knows how he adapts to English football. It could work, it might not. If it doesn't work early or one injury hits you're back to Fellaini and Cleverly.

Young is absolutely terrible. So are all your other options to replace him other than a 19 year old Januzaj. Rooney has to play in the middle, and the shunts Mata out onto a wing, which means that his effect is automatically curtailed. When he inevitably cuts inside (because he's a central playmaker) that leaves your left side completely exposed because you can bet Shaw is bombing down the flank. Now while Mata can still operate from the left and has proven to be effective from there in the past, that only happens if he's allowed to dominate the ball. When you have Rooney in the no. 10 position, he lacks tactical discipline (his managers have said this in the past) and so he will often get in the way of Mata. Doesn't bode well for your attacking fluidity. If Rooney stops trying to monopolise the ball, and concentrate on making runs into the box, and supporting RVP then you will have a potent attack, but whether Rooney has the tactical discipline is a big query. Not to mention that when you won the title RVP had a career year, he's now 30+ and coming off a lacklustre season and terrible World Cup.

So tell me, why is it fait accompli that Manchester United will be back challenging next year? Because David Moyes is gone? I hope that internally Manchester United blame Moyes for all of their problems, because then they won't be going be very far next year.

Jesus christ, I hate them as much as the next person, but the World Cup isn't even over yet.

If they sign Hummels and Vidal that side looks instantly different.

And for all the bagging of Young, the throw away line is "Young is absolutely terrible. So are all your other options to replace him other than a 19 year old Januzaj"

Yeah, except Januzaj IS one of the best teenagers in the world, so I see no real need to go out and spend big in that position.

I think most people realise their issues are in the back half going into this offseason............. they signed one of the best young fullbacks in the world and if they get Hummels, one would suggest it's been a very successful period, even disregarding anything else they get.